915  
FXUS02 KWBC 111804  
PMDEPD  
 
EXTENDED FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NWS HYDROMETEOROLOGICAL PREDICTION CENTER CAMP SPRINGS MD  
204 PM EDT FRI SEP 11 2009  
 
VALID 12Z MON SEP 14 2009 - 12Z FRI SEP 18 2009  
 
MULTI-DAY MEANS DISPLAY A VERY STABLE LARGE SCALE PATTERN  
CONSISTING OF A STRONG POSITIVE HGT ANOMALY CENTER POSITIONED JUST  
W OR SW OF HUDSON BAY AND A NEGATIVE ANOMALY CENTER OVER THE NERN  
PACIFIC. THIS REGIME WILL SUPPORT A MEAN TROF OVER ERN CANADA  
EXTENDING INTO THE NERN QUADRANT OF THE CONUS. MOST OTHER AREAS  
OF THE CONUS...ASIDE FROM THE EXTREME NORTHWEST WHICH MAY SEE THE  
PASSAGE OF ONE OR MORE PIECES OF ENERGY ON THE ERN PERIPHERY OF  
THE NERN PAC TROF... WILL LIKELY EXPERIENCE RATHER WEAK FLOW THRU  
THE PERIOD.  
 
THE MOST SIGNIFICANT QUESTION MARKS INVOLVE THE EVOLUTION OF  
ENERGY WITHIN THE ERN CANADA/NERN CONUS MEAN TROF. THE 00Z ECMWF  
IS ON THE SLOW EDGE OF THE MODEL/ENSEMBLE SPREAD WITH A LEADING  
SHRTWV AROUND MIDWEEK... WHILE THERE IS A FAIR CLUSTERING OF  
OPERATIONAL SOLNS THAT ARE SHARPER AND MORE AMPLIFIED THAN MOST  
ENSEMBLES WITH TRAILING ENERGY THAT SHOULD BE A COMBINATION OF  
UPPER LOW ENERGY INITIALLY NEAR THE US-CANADIAN BORDER AND  
UPSTREAM PACIFIC/NRN CANADA FLOW. SHORT RANGE EVOLUTION OF ENERGY  
CUTTING OFF OVER THE NRN PLAINS MAY OFFER POTENTIAL FOR UPSTREAM  
ENERGY ALSO TO AMPLIFY A LITTLE MORE THAN THE ENSEMBLE MEANS  
ALBEIT A LITTLE FARTHER EWD. THUS WOULD RECOMMEND A BLEND AMONG  
THE OPERATIONAL/ENSEMBLE GUIDANCE TO DOWNPLAY QUESTIONABLE  
INDIVIDUAL MODEL SOLNS WHILE ACCOUNTING FOR THE AGREEABLE LARGE  
SCALE PATTERN.  
 
ELSEWHERE... SLOW MOVING WEAKNESS ALOFT OVER THE SRN PLAINS/LOWER  
MS VALLEY WILL MAINTAIN LOW PRESSURE NEAR THE GULF COAST. THE GFS  
IS DEEPER ALOFT THAN MOST OTHER GUIDANCE... SO SFC LOW PRESSURE  
MAY BE A LITTLE MORE SUPPRESSED AS INDICATED BY RECENT ECMWF RUNS.  
MEANWHILE BEST CLUSTERING OF GUIDANCE INDICATES THE CLOSED LOW  
MOVING INTO THE WEST MAY BE A LITTLE SWD OF THE 00Z ECMWF. MODEL  
CONTINUITY HAS NOT BEEN GOOD WITH THIS FEATURE... WITH THE AVERAGE  
OF THE PAST TWO ECMWF RUNS PROVIDING A REASONABLE FCST COMPARED TO  
OTHER GUIDANCE. PREFERENCE FOR A CONSENSUS/BLEND APPROACH THAT  
MAINTAINS SOME CONTINUITY WHERE FEASIBLE LEADS TO A NEARLY EVEN  
BLEND OF THE 00Z ECMWF... 12Z/10 ECWMF... AND 12Z/10 ECMWF  
ENSEMBLE MEAN THRU THE DAYS 3-7 PERIOD.  
 
UPDATED MORNING PRELIMS OFFER THE AVAILABILITY OF THE 00Z ECMWF  
ENS MEAN WHICH LOKS LIKE TEH LAGGED AVERAGE FORECAST OF THE LAST 4  
CYCLES OF THE ECMWF. PRIOR NIGHTSHIFT BLEND WASAN ATTEMPT AT THE  
LAGGED AVERAGE SOLUTION. VERY OFTEN IF NOT MOST OF THE TIME A  
LAGGED AVERAGE FORECAST OF ECMWF OR COMBO LAGGED AVERAGE FORECAST  
OF BOTH ECMWF/GFS LOOKS MUCH LIKE THE 00Z ECMWF ENS MEAN. THIS  
WILL BE USED IN THIS MORNINGS UPDATED SOLUTION...EQUAL PARTS ECMWF  
AND 00Z ECMWF ENS MEAN WITH A STEADY INCREASE TOWARDS THE ECMWF  
MEAN LATE PERIOD.  
 
THIS SOLUTION DAMPENS THE OVERLY AGGRESSIVE ERN CANADIAN/NERN U.S.  
SHORTWAVE TROF OF THE OP 00Z ECMWF LATE TUES TO FRI. THIS IS  
BASICALLY UNDER HIGH PRESSURE AND THIS BLEND SHOULD BE CLOSE TO  
THE GFS MOS SOLUTION.  
 
12Z GFS HAS NO SIG CHANGES WITH THE EXCEPTION OF HAVING A MODERATE  
EXITING TROF OFF NEW ENG WED NIGHT. THIS IS MUCH LESS AMPLIFIED  
THAN TEH ECMWF SOLUTION AND NOT AS RIDGED AS EARLIER GFS. THIS WAS  
HANDLED EARLIER BY USING GFS/ECMWF ENS MEANS. NO CHANGES TO AFTN  
FINALS  
RAUSCH/ROSENSTEIN  
 
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