959  
FXUS02 KWBC 141909  
PMDEPD  
 
EXTENDED FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NWS HYDROMETEOROLOGICAL PREDICTION CENTER CAMP SPRINGS MD  
308 PM EDT MON SEP 14 2009  
 
VALID 12Z THU SEP 17 2009 - 12Z MON SEP 21 2009  
 
 
PRELIMINARY UPDATE...  
 
USED A BLEND OF THE 12Z/13 DETERMINISTIC ECMWF AND THE 00Z/14 EC  
ENSEMBLE MEAN TO UPDATE THE PRELIMINARY FRONTS AND PRESSURES FOR  
DAYS 3 THROUGH 7. THE LAST THREE RUNS OF THE ECMWF HAVE SLOWLY  
BACKED OFF THE DEEP TROUGH OVER THE EAST DAYS 5 AND 6...WITH THE  
LATEST RUN QUITE FLAT AND PROGRESSIVE WITH THE ENERGY ASSOCIATED  
WITH THIS SYSTEM. THE TROUBLE IS...THE 00Z/14 EC MEAN STILL SHOWS  
LOW HEIGHTS OVER THE EASTERN GREAT LAKES AND NORTHEAST AT THAT  
TIME RANGE...AND THE 00Z/14 GEM GLOBAL SENDS A ROBUST TROUGH  
ACROSS THE REGION. TO KEEP THE PHYSICS IN THE SAME FAMILY...OPTED  
TO INCORPORATE THE OLDER ECMWF RUN...WHICH CLUSTERS WELL WITH THE  
MOST RECENT EC MEAN...AND AFFORDS SYNOPTIC FIBER...SO TO  
SPEAK...TO THE MANUAL BLEND (ANY INCORPORATION OF MEAN GUIDANCE  
TENDS TO WASH OUT THE MASS FIELDS). THE 00Z/14 GFS IS  
SUFFICIENTLY OUT OF SYNC WITH THE OTHER MODELS WITH THE EVOLUTION  
OF THE ROSSBY WAVES IN THE MAIN BAND OF WESTERLIES TO BE OF  
DUBIOUS USE THIS FORECAST.  
 
FINAL...  
 
NO CONSENSUS HAS EMERGED WITH THE ADVENT OF THE 12Z/14  
GUIDANCE...PARTICULARLY FROM THE EASTERN UNITED STATES INTO THE  
WESTERN ATLANTIC. THE NEW GFS IS OUT OF STEP WITH THE GEFS  
MEAN...BOTH WITH THE TRACK OF THE CYCLONE OVER THE OPEN  
OCEAN...AND THE COLD FRONT SWEEPING DOWN FROM EASTERN CANADA. THE  
GEM GLOBAL...UKMET...AND NEW ECMWF ARE ALSO QUITE DIFFERENT WITH  
THIS SYSTEM...THOUGH THE GEM GLOBAL AND ECMWF AT LEAST TRACK THE  
LOW OVER ATLANTIC COMPARABLY THROUGH DAY 4...DESPITE AN ENORMOUS  
DIFFERENCE IN DEPTH. MADE A COMPROMISE TOWARD THE 12Z/14 ECMWF  
WITH THE PATTERN OVER THE EAST FOR THE FINAL ISSUANCE...BRINGING  
HIGH PRESSURE MORE VIGOROUSLY DOWN THE EASTERN SLOPES OF THE  
APPALACHIANS...AND SLOWING THE ATLANTIC LOW SOME. THE FORECAST  
HAS LOW CONFIDENCE OVERALL.  
 
CISCO  
 
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