951  
FXUS02 KWBC 191902  
PMDEPD  
 
EXTENDED FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NWS HYDROMETEOROLOGICAL PREDICTION CENTER CAMP SPRINGS MD  
302 PM EDT SAT SEP 19 2009  
 
VALID 12Z TUE SEP 22 2009 - 12Z SAT SEP 26 2009  
 
THE MEDIUM RANGE FORECAST TODAY WILL BE CHARACTERIZED BY TWO  
FEATURES DUELING FOR CONTROL OF THE PATTERN OVER ERN NOAM THE  
LATTER PART OF NEXT WEEK. INITIALLY A CLOSED LOW IS FORECAST BY  
CONSENSUS OF MODELS (EXCEPT FOR THE DETERMINISTIC GFS) TO FORM IN  
THE W CENTRAL PLAINS EARLY IN THE PERIOD.  
 
THE NEW 12Z DETERMINISTIC GFS PERSISTS IN TURNING ITS UPPER LOW  
FORMING NEAR THE DAKOTAS/WY BORDER MON SWWD INTO THE CENTRAL GREAT  
BASIN BY THU....CONTINUING ON THE FAR WRN EDGE OF MODEL AND  
ENSEMBLE SOLUTIONS. THE NEW 12Z/19 CANADIAN AND UKMET ARE STILL  
STAYING WITH THEIR EARLIER CONTINUITY OF CLOSING OFF A LOW VCNTY  
OF KS BY TUE DAY 3. THE NEW 12Z/19 ECMWF IS IN BETWEEN THE GFS AND  
CANADIAN/UKMET SOLTIONS HERE. BY NEXT FRI THE CANADIAN/UKKMET ARE  
IN FAIRLY GOOD AGREEMENT NEAR THE KS/MO/IL INTERSECTION. THE NEW  
ECMWF DAY 5 IS OVER THE OK PANHANDLE. THE NEW 12Z/19 GEFS ENSEMBLE  
MEAN HAS TRENDED W FROM ITS 00Z/19 CONTINUITY AND PLACES A WEAK  
CLOSED LOW OVER THE SRN ROCKIES.. HOWEVER WE FEEL CONSTRAINED BY  
CONTINUITY TO STAY A TAD W OF THE LATEST 12Z/19 CANADIAN AND UKMET  
UPPER LOW SOLUTIONS.  
 
FINAL PROGS GENERALLY STAYED WITH A ECMWF/CANADIAN BLEND THRU THIS  
MEDIUM RANGE PERIOD.  
ENSEMBLE SPAGHETTI PLOTS LEFT LITTLE DOUBT TODAY AS TO WHO THE  
OUTLIER SOLUTIONS WERE...THE LAST THREE DETERMINISTIC 00Z/06Z/12Z  
RUNS OF THE GFS. THESE GFS RUNS ARE ON THE WRN EDGE OF THE  
ENVELOPE OF SOLUTIONS WITH THE CENTRAL CONUS UPPER LOW NEXT WEEK.  
THE VAST MAJORITY OF OTHER ENSEMBLES FROM 00Z/19 RETAIN CONTINUITY  
OF A WOBBLING CLOSED LOW IN THE S CENTRAL PLAINS WED-FRI. THE  
12Z/18 AND 99Z/19 UKMET RUNS WERE ON THE E SIDE OF THE SOLUTION  
ENVELOPE...SHOWING SLOW EWD PROGRESSION OF THE UPPER LOW. NEEDLESS  
TO SAY...CONTINUITY WAS OUR FAVORED SOLUTION TODAY.  
 
ANOTHER FORECAST PROBLEM IS THE FATE OF THE POLAR BRANCH OF THE  
WESTERLIES ACROSS CANADA AND THE SWD EXTENT OF THESE WESTERLIES  
INTO THE NE QUADRANT OF THE CONUS DAYS 5-7. MODELS SHOW A TENDENCY  
IN THE POLAR BRANCH OF THE WESTERLIES FOR RIDGING OVER WRN CANADA  
AND TROFFING OVER FAR ERN CANADA. IF THE SOLUTIONS SHOWING A  
VIGOROUS CLOSED LOW IN THE HIGH PLAINS PREVAIL...THERE SHOULD BE A  
DOWNSTREAM RIDGE OVER THE S ATLANTIC STATES THAT WILL BLUNT THE  
SWD EXTENT OF ANY CANADIAN TROFFING INTO NEW ENG THE LATTER HALF  
OF NEXT WEEK. IF THE SOLUTIONS IN WHICH THE CANADIAN NRN STREAM IS  
DOMINANT WERE TO PREVAIL...THE TROFFING COULD EXTEND FARTHER S BY  
THU INTO THE NERN CONUS.  
 
THE ECMWF AND GFS ENSEMBLE MEANS ARE QUITE DIFFERENT HERE...WITH  
THE 00Z/19 ECMWF ENSEMBLE MEMBERS AND THE UKMET MAINTAINING AN  
UPPER RIDGE ACROSS THE MID ATLANTIC/SERN STATES WHILE THE GFS AND  
ITS ENSEMBLE MEMBERS CRASH HEIGHTS OVER THE NE/MID ATLANTIC BY  
DAYS 5-6. TELECONNECTIONS ON THE STRONG POSITIVE HEIGHT ANOMALY  
OVER THE PACIFIC NW DO NOT SUPPORT DEEP TROFFING INTO NEW ENG THE  
LATTER PORTION OF THIS MEDIUM RANGE PERIOD....FAVORING INSTEAD A  
TROF OVER THE GREAT LAKES.  
 
THE WEATHER HIGHLIGHTS OF THE MEDIUM RANGE WILL BE LARGELY  
DETERMINED BY THE FATE OF THE PLAINS CLOSED LOW. WITH SUCH A WIDE  
RANGE OF SOLUTIONS OUR CONFIDENCE IN THE DETAILS IS BELOW  
AVERAGE. WE EXPECT AN AREA OF HEAVY PRECIP IN THE COMMA HEAD  
PORTION N-NW OF THE UPPER LOW...WHILE A AREA OF CONVECTION SHOULD  
OCCUR E OF THE UPPER LOW EXTENDING S TO THE GULF COAST. STILL  
FATHER E...A BROAD AREA OF DISORGANIZED SHOWERS SHOULD OCCUR IN  
THE HUMID AIRMASS THAT WILL BE LIMITED ONLY BY THE POSSIBLE  
PENETRATION OF DRIER AIR INTO THE NE STATES. SOME UNUSUALLY COOL  
TEMPS CAN BE EXPECTED VICINITY OF THE UPPER LOW IN THE HIGH  
PLAINS.  
 
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