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FXUS02 KWBC 231741  
PMDEPD  
 
EXTENDED FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NWS HYDROMETEOROLOGICAL PREDICTION CENTER CAMP SPRINGS MD  
117 PM EDT WED SEP 23 2009  
 
VALID 12Z SAT SEP 26 2009 - 12Z WED SEP 30 2009  
 
GLOBAL GUIDANCE HAS MAINTAINED GOOD CONSISTENCY WITH PRIOR RUNS  
REGARDING THE SYNOPTIC PATTERN TO AFFECT THE CONUS DURING THE  
MEDIUM RANGE PERIOD...WITH AMPLIFICATION OF THE LONGWAVE FLOW BUT  
WITH DETAIL DIFFERENCES WITH THE SHORTWAVE PATTERN CONTINUING. THE  
UPPER LOW OVER THE PLAINS ON DAY 3 WILL ACCELERATE EASTWARD IN  
RESPONSE TO RAPID APPROACH OF A DIGGING SHORTWAVE TROUGH ACROSS  
CANADA...WHICH EVOLVES INTO AN UPPER LOW OVER THE GREAT LAKES BY  
DAY 5. THE SLOWER TREND NOTED IN GUIDANCE REGARDING THE UPPER LOW  
OVER THE PLAINS FAVORS THE SLOWER SIDE OF THE GUIDANCE AS THE LOW  
LIFTS INTO THE NORTHEAST DAYS 4/5...WHICH GENERALLY EXCLUDES THE  
GFS. OTHERWISE THE MODELS ARE REASONABLY WELL CLUSTERED WITH THE  
POSITIONING AND INTENSITY OF THE NEWLY FORMING UPPER LOW OVER THE  
GREAT LAKES...WITH EITHER THE GFS/ECMWF BLENDED WITH THE GEFS MEAN  
PREFERRED...VERSUS USING THE OLDER ECMWF ENSEMBLE MEAN WHICH IS  
CONSIDERED TOO FAR NORTH WITH THE LOW DAYS 5/6. THE RESULT IS A  
WEAKER VERSION OF THE GFS/ECMWF BUT SIMILARLY PLACED. ACROSS THE  
WEST...THE GFS LIES NEAR THE FAST SIDE OF THE GUIDANCE WITH  
INFLUENCE FROM AN AMPLIFYING LONGWAVE TROUGH OVER THE NORTHWEST  
DAY 5...WITH DETERMINISTIC/ENSEMBLE GUIDANCE SUPPORTING THE NEW  
ECMWF BLENDED WITH THE GEFS MEAN TO ACCOUNT FOR THE GROWING  
SOLUTION SPREAD...ESPECIALLY BY DAYS 6/7.  
 
UPDATED MORNING RE EVALUATION AND ADDITION OF 06Z GFS AND 00Z  
ECMWF MEANS SHOWS OVER ALL GOOD MODEL AGREEMENT. AN UPDATED  
PREFERENCE IS A 50/50 COMBINATION OF OP CMC AND ECMWFDAYS 3-5 AND  
BLEND OF ENS MEANS OF GFS/ECMWF FOR DAYS 6 AND 7. THIS SOLUTION  
SHOULD BE CLOSE TO MOS MOST AREAS.  
 
12Z MODEL RUNS OF GFS SIMILAR TO THE PRECEDING RUN BUT WITH LESS  
TROF AMPLITUDE OVER CA DAY 7 AND MORE IN LINE WITH CONSENSUS OF  
ENS MEANS WITH UKMET AND CMC MAINTAINING CONTINUITY. NO CHANGES TO  
AFTN FINALS FROM MORNING PRELIMS.  
 
MDT/HEAVY FRONTAL RAINS SHOULD OCCUR WITH THE LEAD EXITING  
SHORTWAVE DAYS 3-4 INTO THE UPPER OH VALLEY/APPLCHNS AMD THEN EWD  
FROM NEW ENG SWD ALONG THE ATLC SEABOARD INTO NRN FL AS THE FRONT  
MOVES OFFSHORE. STRONG COLD FRONT WILL PUSH SWD OVER THE NRN  
PLAINS SUN AS THE NEXT DIGGING SHORTWAVE DROPS SEWD AND DEVELOPS  
AN INTENSE STORM OVER LK SUPERIOR BY MONDAY WITH HIGH WINDS MON  
AND TUES OVER THE UPPER MS VALLEY AND WRN GREAT LAKES WITH HVY  
RAINFALL POTENTIAL MON. HIGH CONFIDENCE WITH THIS EVENT AS ALL OP  
MODELS AND ENSEMBLES TARGET THIS AREA AND WITH INTENSITY. NEXT PAC  
TROF WILL BRING IN COOLER TEMPS TO THE WEST WITH RAIN OVER THE PAC  
NORTHWEST AND NRN CA COASTAL REGION WED.  
JAMES/ROSENSTEIN  

 
 
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