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FXUS02 KWBC 251836  
PMDEPD  
 
EXTENDED FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NWS HYDROMETEOROLOGICAL PREDICTION CENTER CAMP SPRINGS MD  
235 PM EDT FRI SEP 25 2009  
 
VALID 12Z MON SEP 28 2009 - 12Z FRI OCT 02 2009  
 
THE LONGWAVE PATTERN OVER THE NEXT WEEK WILL BE ONE FEATURING  
PROGRESSION AND AMPLITUDE....A SOMEWHAT STRANGE COMBINATION. A  
VIGOROUS SYS DEEPENS VCNTY OF THE ERN GRT LAKES MON...FOLLOWED BY  
THE DEEPENING OF A NEW TROF INTO THE INTERMOUNTAIN REGION AND  
ROCKIES EARLY NEXT WEEK. MODELS HAVE ABOVE AVERAGE AGREEMENT ON  
THE BASIC EVOLUTION OF THIS PATTERN BUT HAVE SOME EWD TRANSLATION  
TIMING DIFFERENCES CONCERNING THE NEW TROF DEVELOPING OVER THE W.  
 
THE 00Z/25 ECMWF AND ITS ENSEMBLE MEMBERS WERE ON THE SLOW SIDE OF  
THE ENVELOPE OF MODEL/ENSEMBLE SOLUTIONS CONCERNING BOTH MAJOR  
TROFS AFFECTING THE COUNTRY. AFTER VIEWING THE LATEST 12Z  
GUIDANCE...WE DECIDED THAT THE 00Z/25 DETERMINISTIC ECMWF...ON  
WHICH THE PRELIM PROGS HAD BEEN BASED...WAS A LITTLE TOO SLOW WITH  
THE EWD TRANSLATION OF THE SYS DIGGING INTO THE WRN STATES.  
CONSEQUENTLY...WE BLENDED OUR PRELIM PROGS WITH 50% OF THE  
SOMEWHAT FASTER 00Z/25 ECMWF ENSEMBLE MEAN. CONSENSUS OF THE NEW  
12Z/25 GFS AND UKMET WERE STILL FASTER THAN THE 00Z/25 ECMWF MEAN  
WITH THIS WRN TROF...WHILE THE 12Z/25 CANADIAN WAS ALMOST AS SLOW  
AS THE 00Z ECMWF. THE NEW 12Z DETERMINISTIC ECMWF WAS TRENDING  
SLIGHTLY FASTER THAN ITS 00Z RUN BY DAY 4-5 MORE LIKE ITS 00Z  
ENSEMBLE MEAN.  
 
LATEST ENSEMBLE SPAGHETTI PLOTS SHOW BETTER THAN AVERAGE PATTERN  
AGREEMENT OVER THE NEXT 7 DAYS. THE GFS/GEFS MEAN WERE MORE  
PROGRESSIVE WITH THE LONGWAVES AMPLIFYING OVER NORTH AMERICA DAYS  
3 THROUGH 7...A TYPICAL BIAS OF THE GFS WHEN THINGS GO MERIDIONAL.  
THE DIFFERENCE IN OUR FINALS FROM OUR PRELIMS IS THAT WE ARE  
AIMING MORE FOR THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD THAN THE VERY SLOW 00Z/25  
ECMWF SOLUTION. WE HOPE THAT A HAPPY MEDIUM CAN BE ACHIEVED BY  
BLENDING THE 00Z/25 ECMWF MEAN WITH ITS OPERATIONAL DETERMINISTIC  
COUNTERPART. WE MANUALLY ADJUSTED THE SURFACE REFLECTION OF THE  
WRN TROF IN THE PLAINS STATES A LITTLE FARTHER E AFTER MAKING THE  
BLEND.  
 
AS WE BEGIN OCTOBER...BOTH VIGOROUS UPPER SYS AFFECTING THE LOWER  
48 WILL BE COLD ENOUGH FOR SN AT HIGHER ELEVATIONS....IN NRN NEW  
ENG AND THE ROCKIES...RESPECTIVELY. COOL CANADIAN AIR WILL  
DOMINATE THE COUNTRY IN THE WAKE OF THE GRT LAKES/NRN NEW ENG SYS  
UNTIL A WARMUP BEGINS IN THE PLAINS STATES THU/FRI. SIGNIFICANT  
LAKE EFFECT CONVECTION MON DAY 3. A SLOW RETURN OF MOISTURE WILL  
FUEL SOME CONVECTION IN THE CENTRAL/SRN PLAINS LATE NEXT  
WEEK...WITH COLD OVERRUNNING RAIN IN THE DAKOTAS.  
 
FLOOD  
 
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