384  
FXUS02 KWBC 261731  
PMDEPD  
 
EXTENDED FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NWS HYDROMETEOROLOGICAL PREDICTION CENTER CAMP SPRINGS MD  
130 PM EDT SAT SEP 26 2009  
 
VALID 12Z TUE SEP 29 2009 - 12Z SAT OCT 03 2009  
 
MODELS AND ENSEMBLES AGREE THAT THE LONGWAVE FLOW FROM THE PACIFIC  
ACROSS NORTH AMERICA AMPLIFIES SIGNIFICANTLY BY DAYS 4-7...AND  
BECOMES LESS PROGRESSIVE WITH TIME AS BLOCKY CONDITIONS GRADUALLY  
BUILD FROM THE NW ATLANTIC ACROSS NE CANADA. IN THIS PATTERN...AN  
AMPLIFIED AND REINFORCED/COOLING MID-UPPER LEVEL TROUGH WILL  
STRUGGLE TO EJECT FROM THE NERN US ACROSS THE CANADIAN MARITIMES.  
THIS OCCURS EVEN AS ANOTHER DEEP AND GRADUALLY NEG-TILT MID-UPPER  
LEVEL TROUGH AND DYNAMIC EMBEDDED FEATURES/LEAD SENSIBLE WEATHER  
FOCUS ARE KICKED FROM THE WRN TO EAST-CENTRAL US DAYS 4-7 WITH  
APPROACH OF NEW UPSTREAM PACIFIC ENERGIES. THIS LEADS TO SHARPER  
WAVELENGTH SPACING ACROSS NOAM INTO DAYS 6/7 AS THE FEATURES BUMP  
INTO THE EMERGING DOWNSTREAM BLOCKY PATTERN. THIS INTRODUCES  
GREATER POTENTIAL FOR FORECAST ERROR. THE GOOD NEWS IS THAT HIGH  
RESOLUTION GUIDANCE FROM THE 00 UTC ECMWF/ECMWF ENSEMBLES AND THE  
00/06 UTC GFS RUNS ARE IN UNUSUALLY CLOSE AGREEMENT EVEN INTO DAYS  
6/7 FROM THE PACIFIC ACROSS NOAM. THEY ALSO OFFER DECENT  
CONTINUITY FROM THEIR RESPECTIVE 00 UTC GUIDANCE FROM  
YESTERDAY...WITH THE ECMWF AND GFS RUNS MERGING UPON THIS MORE  
COMMON SOLUTION. UNFORTUNATELY...CONTINUITY IS NOT AS PRONOUNCED  
COMPARED TO THEIR RESPECTIVE 12 UTC RUNS FROM YESTERDAY NOR FROM  
LOWER RESOLUTION 00 UTC GFS/CANADIAN/NAEFS ENSEMBLE GUIDANCE THAT  
BECOMES INCREASINGLY OUT OF PHASE FROM THE ERN PAC INTO THE WRN US  
DAYS 6/7.  
 
HPC FINAL MEDIUM RANGE PROGS REMAIN PRIMARILY DERIVED FROM A 50-50  
BLEND OF SIMILAR AND SEEMINGLY REASONABLE 00 UTC GFS/ECMWF  
SOLUTIONS INTO THU. HOWEVER...PREFER TO INCORPORATE ABOUT A THIRD  
OF 00 UTC ECMWF ENSEMBLE GUIDANCE INTO THE 00 UTC GFS/ECMWF MIX BY  
NEXT THU/FRI TO INCREASINGLY WEED OUT LESS PREDICTABLE SMALLER  
SCALE SOLUTION DIFFERENCES AND INTENSIFICATIONS AMID GROWING  
UNCERTAINTY AND RUN TO RUN CONTINUITY CONCERNS. THIS HPC BLEND  
MAINTAINS CLOSE HPC CONTINUITY AND FAVORS THE HIGHER RESOLUTION  
GUIDANCE CLUSTER THAT IS ALSO WELL SUPPORTED BY THE LATEST 12 UTC  
GFS.  
 
SCHICHTEL  

 
 
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