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FXUS02 KWBC 161931  
PMDEPD  
 
EXTENDED FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NWS HYDROMETEOROLOGICAL PREDICTION CENTER CAMP SPRINGS MD  
330 PM EDT FRI OCT 16 2009  
 
VALID 12Z MON OCT 19 2009 - 12Z FRI OCT 23 2009  
 
MODELS ARE WEAKENING AN INITIAL BLOCK OVER THE BERING SEA AND  
REPLACING IT WITH A MEAN LOW BY DAY 5. A FAIRLY VIGOROUS TROF  
SHOULD EXTEND S OF THE MEAN LOW INTO THE MIDDLE LATITUDES OF THE  
PACIFIC. A NEGATIVE HEIGHT ANOMALY BECOMES FAIRLY WELL ESTABLISHED  
NEAR 45N/160W DURING THE MEDIUM RANGE PERIOD.  
 
DOWNSTREAM OF THE MEAN NEGATIVE ANOMALY NEAR 45N/160W...A FLAT  
MEAN RIDGE WILL BE FAVORED OVER WRN NOAM. THERE SHOULD BE ENOUGH  
WESTERLY FLOW THRU THIS RIDGE THAT SEVERAL SHORT WAVES WILL RACE  
THRU IT OVER THE NEXT WEEK. AS MEAN WESTERLIES INCREASE FROM THE  
ERN PACIFIC INTO THE NWRN CONUS AND SWRN CANADA...THE DEEP COLD  
TROF THAT IS BRINGING UNSEASONABLE COLD AND SN TO THE CENTRAL  
APPALACHIANS WILL BE EJECTED BY UPSTREAM ENERGY MON. AS THIS  
EJECTION OCCURS... MID LEVEL RIDGING WILL FOLLOW IN ITS  
WAKE...ALONG WITH MODERATING TEMPS DAYS 4-5 OVER THE ERN CONUS.  
 
FINAL GRAPHICS RETAINED THE PATTERNS THAT WE SENT OUT IN THE  
UPDATED PRELIM GRAPHICS.  
UPDATED PRELIM FRONTS HAD ATTEMPTED TO SIMPLIFY A COMPLEX SCENARIO  
FOR DAYS 5-6 FROM THE PLAINS STATES TO THE APPALACHIANS CONCERNING  
THE SPLITTING OF ENERGY WITHIN AN UPPER TROF CROSSING THAT PORTION  
OF THE COUNTRY. AFTER VIEWING 12Z/16 DETERMINISTIC MODELS...A  
BLEND OF THE 06Z/19 DETERMINISTIC GFS AND THE 00Z/19 GEFS ENSEMBLE  
MEAN STILL APPEARS TO BE THE BEST GUIDANCE COMPROMISE INCLUDING  
THE LATEST 00Z/16 ENSEMBLE SPAGHETTI PLOTS.  
 
CONSENSUS OF 12Z/16 MODELS SUPPORTS OUR EARLIER REASONING...HENCE  
NO MAJOR CHANGES WILL BE MADE TO THE UPDATED PRELIM GRAPHICS. THE  
MAIN FORECAST DIFFICULTY REMAINS THE BEHAVIOR OF ENERGY THAT  
MODELS BRING INTO NRN CA ON DAY 3. SUBSEQUENT TO THIS TIME.. THE  
NEW GFS/UKMET RETAIN SOME ENERGY IN THE SRN PORTION OF THIS TROF  
BUT EMPHASIZE A SRN CANADIAN STREAM MORE. THE NEW 12Z/16 CMC MODEL  
HAS MORE SRN STREAM ENERGY THAN THE GFS/UKMET AND HINTS OF SOME  
NRN STREAM ENERGY AS WELL. WE THINK THAT THE GFS/UKMET PLAY UP SRN  
CANADIAN SHORTWAVE ENERGY TOO MUCH BY DAYS 6-7...MOVING MOST OF IT  
ACROSS NEW ENG WHILE LEAVING TOO LITTLE BACK IN THE SRN STREAM. AS  
A RESULT OF HAVING TOO LITTLE SRN STREAM ENERGY...THE GFS SEEMS  
UNDERDONE IN SHOWING A SURFACE TROF DAY 7 APPROACHING THE SRN  
APPALACHIANS.  
 
THE 12Z/16 ECMWF IS INTERESTING. IT STARTS OFF LOOKING LIKE THE  
CANADIAN DAYS 3-4 THEN CONSOLIDATES ENERGY INTO MORE OF A MIDDLE  
SOLUTION OVER THE UPPER MIDWEST BY DAY 6 THAN EITHER THE NRN OR  
SRN STREAM DOMINANT SOLUTIONS. THE 12Z/16 ECMWF SOLUTION SEEMS AS  
LIKELY AS ANY. IN FACT IT HAS BETTER SUPPORT FROM TELECONNECTIONS  
ON A WRN NOAM UPPER RIDGE THAN OTHER DETERMINISTIC MODEL  
SOLUTIONS.  
 
THE PRECIPITATION FORECAST FROM THE PLAINS TO THE APPALACHIANS  
WILL WILL BE A LOW CONFIDENCE AFFAIR THAT WILL LARGELY BE A  
FUNCTION OF HOW THE NRN CA TROF HOLDS TOGETHER AS IT REACHES THE  
CENTRAL PORTION OF THE NATION. THE 12Z/16 ECMWF DEVELOPED A  
FAIRLY WELL ORGANIZED AREA OF MODERATE TO HEAVY PRECIP IN THE E  
CENTRAL PLAINS THEN DRIFTS IT EWD TO THE APPALACHIANS BY FRI DAY  
7. A LESS ORGANIZED TROF SUCH AS OTHER MODELS ARE SHOWING WOULD OF  
COURSE GENERATE A LESS WELL DEFINED PRECIP PATTERN CROSSING THE  
ERN PORTION OF THE NATION. ENOUGH WESTERLIES ARE EXPECTED THRU THE  
FLAT WRN NOAM LONGWAVE RIDGE TO BRING PERIODS OF MODERATE OR HEAVY  
PRECIP TO THE COASTAL RANGES OF WA/OR WITH EACH PASSING SHORTWAVE.  
 
 
 
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