481  
FXUS02 KWBC 181804  
PMDEPD  
 
EXTENDED FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NWS HYDROMETEOROLOGICAL PREDICTION CENTER CAMP SPRINGS MD  
203 PM EDT SUN OCT 18 2009  
 
VALID 12Z WED OCT 21 2009 - 12Z SUN OCT 25 2009  
 
LATEST MODEL AND ENSEMBLE GUIDANCE CONTINUES TO AGREE UPON THE  
IDEA OF PROGRESSIVE PACIFIC FLOW BRINGING A SERIES OF SHRTWVS INTO  
THE CONTIGUOUS UNITED STATES TO RELOAD AN EAST-CENTRAL UNITED  
STATES MEAN TROUGH DURING THE MEDIUM RANGE PERIOD.  
TELECONNECTIONS WITH A SLIGHTLY RETROGRESSIVE NEGATIVE ANOMALY  
PASSING 45N 165W AGREES WITH THIS SCENARIO AS WELL. THE SYSTEM  
EXPECTED TO LEAD THE WAY IN ESTABLISHING THIS LARGE SCALE PATTERN  
IS FCST TO TRACK NORTHEAST FROM THE PLAINS INTO THE GREAT LAKES  
LATE THIS WEEK. THE 06Z GEFS MEAN AND 00Z ECMWF ENSEMBLE MEAN  
BEST SUPPORTS THE 06Z GFS AND 00Z ECMWF. THE 12Z GFS/12Z CANADIAN  
OUTPACED THE ENSEMBLE MEAN SOLUTIONS WITH THE TROUGH AND WERE  
CONSIDERED QUICK OUTLIERS.  
 
DUE TO HURRICANE RICK AND THE NHC TRACK OF THIS SYSTEM...STARTED  
WITH THE 06Z GFS SOLUTION EARLY ON BEFORE COMPROMISE BETWEEN THE  
06Z GFS/00Z ECMWF FROM THIS WEEKEND ONWARD...WHICH KEPT GOOD  
CONTINUITY AND TAKES CARE OF SOME OF THE DETAIL ISSUES SEEN  
BETWEEN THESE PIECES OF GUIDANCE. FOR RICK...THE 12Z CANADIAN  
SOLUTION IS A REASONABLE ALTERNATIVE. SOME ADJUSTMENT WAS MADE TO  
THIS BLEND PER THE NHC TRACK OF RICK AND THE 00Z MULTI-MODEL  
ENSEMBLE LOW POSITIONS. THIS PATTERN SHOULD BE WET FROM THE  
PLAINS EASTWARD THROUGH THE MIDWEST AND EASTERN STATES...WITH  
LESSER PRECIPITATION ANTICIPATED ACROSS THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST  
EASTWARD INTO THE NORTHERN PLAINS NEXT WEEKEND.  
 
ROTH/RAUSCH  
 
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