708  
FXUS02 KWBC 291900  
PMDEPD  
 
EXTENDED FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NWS HYDROMETEOROLOGICAL PREDICTION CENTER CAMP SPRINGS MD  
259 PM EDT THU OCT 29 2009  
 
VALID 12Z SUN NOV 01 2009 - 12Z THU NOV 05 2009  
 
WE HAVE HIGH CONFIDENCE IN A PROGRESSIVE AND DEAMPLIFYING LONGWAVE  
PATTERN ACROSS THE LOWER 48 STATES THRU TUE DAY 5. BY TUE DAY  
5...MODEL CONSENSUS SHOWS ABOVE NORMAL HEIGHTS OVER THE WRN STATES  
AND A BROAD TROF ALONG 80W. BEYOND DAY 5...ENSEMBLE SPREAD IN THE  
ERN PACIFIC FROM THE GULF OF ALASKA SEWD TO OFF THE NRN CA COAST  
BECOMES QUITE LARGE ESPECIALLY IN THE 00Z/29 ECMWF RUN. THE HIGH  
UNCERTAINTY CONCERNS THE POSSIBLE SPLITTING OF A PACIFIC TROF MOST  
MODELS SHOW NEAR 150W TUE DAY 5...AS ITS INTERACTS WITH CYCLONIC  
FAST FLOW PUNCHING EWD ALONG 50N S OF THE ALEUTIANS. NOT  
SURPRISINGLY...OUR CONFIDENCE LEVEL DROPS STEADILY BEYOND DAY 5  
DOWNSTREAM OVER THE LOWER 48 STATES.  
 
WHILE THE FORECAST PATTERN OF A DECENT APPALACHIAN/ E COAST TROF  
BY THE DETERMINISTIC ECMWF MAY STILL HAVE SOME MERIT DAY 5 AND  
BEYOND...A CONSENSUS OF THE 00Z/29 ENSEMBLE MEANS OF THE  
ECMWF/GEFS/NAEFS IS LESS AMPLIFIED THAN THE DETERMINISTIC 00ZAND  
12Z/29 ECMWF WITH THAT TROF. WE PREFER TO STAY FLATTER THAN THE  
ECMWF WITH THE ERN CONUS TROF THE MIDDLE OF NEXT WEEK GIVEN THE  
FAIRLY HIGH ENSEMBLE SPREAD OFF THE NRN CA/PACIFIC NW/BC/SRN  
ALASKAN COASTS THAT WILL BE GRADUALLY WORKING ITS WAY EWD INTO THE  
NW QUADRANT OF THE NATION AT THAT TIME.  
 
DOWNSTREAM OVER THE CONUS...ANOTHER SPLITTING TROF HAUNTS  
FORECASTERS HALLOWEEN AND THE DAY AFTER. THE SPLITTING SRN PORTION  
OF THE TROF THAT WILL BE EXITING THE FOOTHILLS OF THE ROCKIES IN  
THE SHORT RANGE STILL PRESENTS A BIG CHALLENGE FOR MODELS. THERE  
IS QUITE A DIFFERENCE FOR SUN DAY 3 IN THE HANDLING OF THIS SYS  
BETWEEN THE NAM/GFS/UKMET/CANADIAN/ECMWF. A SLIGHTLY WEAKER/SWD  
DISPLACED VERSION OF THE NEW 12Z HIRES UKMET IS OUR PREFERRED  
SOLUTION SUN DAY 3 ALONG THE MID ATLANTIC COAST. THIS PRESERVES  
OUR UPDATED PRELIM CONTINUITY WHICH WAS LARGELY BASED ON THE  
06Z/29 GFS. THE 06Z/29 GFS AND ENSEMBLE SPAGHETTI PLOTS HAD  
FAVORED A SOMEWHAT STRONGER SFC WAVE FARTHER N ALONG THE E COAST  
THAN DEPICTED BY THE EARLY PRELIM CONTINUITY.  
 
SENSIBLE WEATHER WILL BE QUIET ONCE THE DAY 3 SUN WAVY COLD FRONT  
CLEARS THE E COAST OF THE CONUS. A WEATHER PATTERN FEATURING  
MOSTLY SEASONABLE TEMPS AND LITTLE OR NO PRECIP WILL CONTINUE  
ACROSS MOST OF THE NATION UNTIL THE NEXT ROUND OF PACIFIC ENERGY  
DECIDES WHAT IT WANTS TO DO BEYOND DAY 6. THERE IS QUITE A RANGE  
IN THE LATITUDE OF SOLUTIONS FROM 12Z/29 DETERMINISTIC MODELS  
VCNTY OF 150W FOR WED DAY 6 CONCERNING THE DEVELOPMENT OF ANOTHER  
PACIFIC CLOSED UPPER LOW. I WOULD NOT PUT MUCH STOCK IN ANY OF  
THESE SOLUTIONS AND JUST SHOW SOME PERIODS OF MOSTLY LIGHT PCPN  
AFFECTING THE COASTAL AND CANSCADE RANGES AND FAR NRN ROCKIES  
UNTIL A MORE ORGANIZED BATCH OF ENERGY CAN REACH THE W COAST OF  
THE CONUS.  
 
FLOOD  
 
 
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