095  
FXUS02 KWBC 301929  
PMDEPD  
 
EXTENDED FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NWS HYDROMETEOROLOGICAL PREDICTION CENTER CAMP SPRINGS MD  
328 PM EDT FRI OCT 30 2009  
 
VALID 12Z MON NOV 02 2009 - 12Z FRI NOV 06 2009  
 
IN GENERAL...A MIDLATITUDE TROUGH IN THE EASTERN PACIFIC IS  
EXPECTED TO AMPLIFY VCNTY OF 150W MON-TUE DAYS 3-4....THEN THE SRN  
PORTION OF THE TROF IS LIKELY TO SPLIT OFF INTO AN UPPER LOW. A  
SLOWLY PROGRESSIVE RIDGE WILL DRIFT EWD ACROSS THE SRN ROCKIES TO  
THE HIGH PLAINS DURING THE PERIOD. BROAD DOWNSTREAM TROFFING IS  
EXPECTED VCNTY OF 80W BY TUE-THU DAYS 4-6. HOWEVER...UNCERTAINTY  
DEVELOPING UPSTREAM LOWERS OUR CONFIDENCE IN THE PATTERN OVER THE  
ENTIRE COUNTRY BY FRI DAY 7. HIGH SPREAD OFFSHORE IN THE PACIFIC  
IS EXPECTED TO WORK ITS WAY EWD ACROSS THE LOWER 48 STATES THE  
LATTER HALF OF NEXT WEEK...GIVEN THE RATHER FAST FLOW ACROSS THE  
COUNTRY.  
 
THE LATEST ENSEMBLE SPAGHETTI PLOTS RE-ENFORCED YESTERDAYS IDEA OF  
HIGH ENSEMBLE SPREAD DEVELOPING WELL OFFSHORE THE W COAST OF THE  
CONUS BY EARLY WED DAY 5. NEW 12Z MODELS BEGIN TO SHOW A WIDE  
RANGE OF SOLUTIONS LATER TUE DAY 4 ALONG 150W CONCERNING HOW  
ENERGY SPLITS OFF THE SRN PORTION OF THE PACIFIC TROF INTO A  
CLOSED LOW...WITH UNCERTAINTY IN THE NRN PORTION OF THE SPLIT  
ACROSS THE GULF OF ALASKA. THE 12Z/30 DETERMINISTIC GFS IS ON THE  
SW EDGE OF THE ENVELOPE OF SOLUTIONS WITH ITS CLOSED LOW...HEADING  
TOWARDS THE N SIDE OF HAWAII. MEANWHILE THE 00Z/30  
GFS/UKMET/CANADIAN WERE MORE ON THE N CENTRAL SIDE OF THE SOLUTION  
ENVELOPE BY WED DAY 5.  
 
12Z/30 MODELS WERE STILL QUITE DIVERGENT WITH THEIR UPPER LOW  
POSITIONS WED DAY 5 AND BEYOND. HOWEVER THE NEW 12Z/30 GEFS MEAN  
GAVE US CONFIDENCE TO STAY THE COURSE. FINAL PROGS STAYED WITH THE  
50-50 BLEND OF THE GFS AND GEFS MEAN USED IN THE EARLIER PRELIM.  
WITH THE PACIFIC UPPER LOW...THE 12Z/30 GEFS MEAN WAS SW OF OUR  
EARLIER 500MB PROG WED/THU DAYS 5-6...BUT OTHERWISE HAD VERY GOOD  
CONTINUITY FROM THE 00Z/30 GFS/GEFS MEAN BLEND THAT WAS USED FOR  
THE PRELIM. THE NEW 12Z ECMWF/CANADIAN/UKMET AND GEFS ENSEMBLE  
MEAN ARE IN GENERAL AGREEMENT IN CLUSTERING ON AN UPPER LOW  
POSITION THU DAY 6 THAT IS NOT TOO DIFFERENT FROM OUR EARLIER THU  
DAY 6 500MB PROG.  
 
AGAIN TODAY...WE ARE EXPECTING A RATHER QUIET PERIOD AS REGARDS TO  
SENSIBLE WEATHER AFTER A VERY ACTIVE OCTOBER. AS CONCERNS THE  
BROAD TROFFING OVER THE ERN CONUS...THERE IS AN OVERALL  
CONSENSUS TOWARD SLIGHTLY HIGHER AMPLITUDE BUT SHORTWAVES MOVING  
THRU THE BROAD ERN TROF ARE LOW CONFIDENCE FEATURES.  
 
FLOOD  

 
 
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