891  
FXUS02 KWBC 021907  
PMDEPD  
 
EXTENDED FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NWS HYDROMETEOROLOGICAL PREDICTION CENTER CAMP SPRINGS MD  
206 PM EST MON NOV 02 2009  
 
VALID 12Z THU NOV 05 2009 - 12Z MON NOV 09 2009  
 
ASIDE FROM A MODEST CYCLONE DEVELOPING OFF THE NORTHEAST COAST AND  
AN EVEN MORE POWERFUL CYCLONE IMPACTING THE GULF OF ALASKA DAYS  
3/4...THE MODELS AGREE THAT ZONAL TO WEAKLY AMPLIFIED LONGWAVE  
FLOW WILL IMPACT THE CONUS DAYS 3-5 BEFORE AMPLIFYING THEREAFTER.  
12Z GUIDANCE DISPLAYS SIMILAR DETERMINISTIC AND ENSEMBLE SPREAD  
REGARDING THE NORTHEAST COASTAL LOW...WHICH HAS BEEN AND CONTINUES  
TO SHOW ABOVE AVERAGE UNCERTAINTY...WITH THE UNCERTAINTY INVOLVING  
HOW THE VARIOUS MODELS HANDLE THE POTENTIAL PHASING OF 2 SHORTWAVE  
TROUGHS AND WHEN/WHERE IT MAY OCCUR. THE PHASING OF THE TWO  
SYSTEMS APPEARS REASONABLE AND IS AGREED UPON BY THE MODELS...WITH  
THE FINAL MANUAL PROGS REPRESENTING A BLEND OF THE FASTER 00Z  
ECMWF ENSEMBLE MEAN/SLOWER 12Z GEFS MEAN.  
 
OTHERWISE...THE REMAINING UNCERTAINTY INVOLVES POTENTIAL TROPICAL  
AND/OR HYBRID SURFACE LOW DEVELOPMENT NEAR THE YUCATAN PENINSULA  
DAYS 6/7...WITH THE 00Z CANADIAN STILL THE STRONGEST AND FASTEST  
WITH LIFTING IT NORTHWARD TOWARD THE CENTRAL GULF COAST. BELIEVE  
THIS SCENARIO REPRESENTS A WORST CASE AND LOW PROBABILITY SCENARIO  
GIVEN ITS LONG TIME RANGE AND LACK OF AGREEMENT FROM OTHER  
GUIDANCE. RATHER...HAVE FOLLOWED A CONSENSUS OF THE MAJORITY OF  
DETERMINISTIC/ENSEMBLE GUIDANCE...WHICH WHEN AVERAGED...PRODUCES A  
WEAK MORE SOUTHWARD LOW THAT DRIFTS NORTHWARD INTO THE BAY OF  
CAMPECHE BY DAY 7.  
 
HOWEVER...OF ALL THE SYSTEMS TO INFLUENCE THE CONUS IN THE MEDIUM  
RANGE PERIOD...PERHAPS THE MOST SIGNIFICANT WILL BE THE UNUSUALLY  
DEEP CYCLONE THAT REACHES THE GULF OF ALASKA DAY 3 WITH A MINIMUM  
CENTRAL PRESSURE NEAR 940 MB WHICH THEN IMPACTS THE PACIFIC  
NORTHWEST WITH HEAVY RAIN AND MOUNTAIN SNOWS DAYS 3/4...WITH  
ADDITIONAL ONSHORE FLOW AND WEAKER SHORTWAVE TROUGHS CONTINUING  
THE IMPACT THE NORTHWEST THROUGH ABOUT DAY 5. MEANWHILE...THE  
NORTHEAST COAST LOW MAY BE TOO FAR OFFSHORE TO PROVIDE MUCH MORE  
THAN JUST A CHANCE OF PRECIPITATION ALONG THE IMMEDIATE COAST  
ESPECIALLY NEW ENGLAND...WITH ONLY A SLIGHT WESTWARD ADJUSTMENT TO  
ITS TRACK SUPPORTING CONSIDERABLY HIGHER AMOUNTS. ABOVE AVERAGE  
MODEL SPREAD REGARDING THE PHASING PROCESS MENTIONED ABOVE  
SUPPORTS BELOW AVERAGE CONFIDENCE IN THIS PARTICULAR SYSTEM. THE  
TROPICAL OR HYBRID LOW FORMING NEAR THE YUCATAN PENINSULA DAYS 6/7  
HAS THE POTENTIAL TO BRING HEAVY PRECIPITATION TO PARTS OF THE  
GULF COAST/SOUTHEAST/EAST COAST. HOWEVER...ITS IMPACTS APPEAR TO  
OCCUR MOSTLY AFTER DAY 7. HOWEVER...STRONG ONSHORE FLOW AND  
ACCOMPANYING BETTER THAN AVERAGE CHANCES OF RAIN ARE EXPECTED TO  
DEVELOP ALONG THE EASTERN FLORIDA COAST DUE TO THE INCREASING  
PRESSURE GRADIENT BETWEEN THE SURFACE HIGH TO THE NORTH AND THE  
LOW NEAR THE YUCATAN PENINSULA. ELSEWHERE...A WARMING TREND WITH  
MAINLY DRY CONDITIONS WILL DEVELOP FROM THE PLAINS EASTWARD  
STARTING DAY 4.  
 
JAMES  

 
 
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