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FXUS02 KWBC 041813  
PMDEPD  
 
EXTENDED FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NWS HYDROMETEOROLOGICAL PREDICTION CENTER CAMP SPRINGS MD  
112 PM EST WED NOV 04 2009  
 
VALID 12Z SAT NOV 07 2009 - 12Z WED NOV 11 2009  
 
FAST STRONG SEMIZONAL PACIFIC FLOW CONTS THIS PERIOD. TYPICAL  
SHORTWAVE AMPLITUDE AND TIMING PROBLEMS CONTINUE WITH A STEADY  
TREND TO DE AMPLIFY ENERGY COMING INTO THE WEST COAST LATE SAT AND  
SUN. THIS BEGAN WITH YTDAS 12Z RUNS AND DEAMPLIFICATION CONTS INTO  
THE 00Z RUNS TDA. THE CHANGES ARE AGREED UPON BY MODELS. DAYS 3  
AND 4 SAT/SUN ARE WELL ENOUGH TO BLEND ECMWF AND GFS AND OVER  
CONUS THIS WOULD INCLUDE DAY 5 MON. MODEL MEANS AND INDIVIDUAL  
ENSEMBLE HT CONTOURS SHOW GOOD AGREEMENT THRU DAY 5 BUT HAVE A  
VAST INCREASE IN SPREAD WITH POOR RUN TO RUN CONTINUITY AND  
INDICATE VERY LOW CONFIDENCE IN ANY SOLUTION. WITH THIS IN MIND  
HAVE GONE AGAIN TOWARDS AND INCREASING AMOUNT OF ENSEMBLE MEANS  
FOR DAYS 6 AND 7 TUES/WED FROM THE EPAC AND DOWNSTREAM OVER CONUS.  
NO CHANGES TO AFTN FINALS FROM MORNING UPDATED PRELIMS.  
 
HIGH PRESSURE COVERS ERN CONUS DAYS 3-5 SAT-MON WITH WARM  
ADVECTION FLOW THRU THE CENTRAL AND SRN PLAINS/LOWER MS VALLEY.  
WESTWARD PAC HIGH PRESSURE BUILDS INTO THE WEST AND GREAT BASIN  
SUNDAY AND MONDAY. BROAD AREA OF BRISK EASTERLY FLOW CONTS THIS  
PERIOD FROM SC/GA SOUTHWARD AND ACROSS THE GULF OF MEXICO. MODELS  
CONT TO GENERATE A LARGE BROAD AREA OF LOW PRESSURE OVER CENTRAL  
AMERICA WITH THE POTENTIAL FOR A COUPLE OF SEPARATE AREAS OF LOW  
PRESSURE IN THE EPAC AND GULFMEX. CHI 200/850 VELOCITY POTENTIAL  
CHARTS AND A FAVORABLE MJO WITH WEST PHASE 850MB WIND ANOMALIES  
CONT TO SPIN UP LOW LEVEL VORTICITY IN THIS REGION. LOWER WRN  
GULFMEX REGION CONTS TO BE A FAVORABLE AREA WITH ITS CONCAVE COAST  
TO ALLOW FOR LOW LEVEL CYCLOGENESIS OR AT LEAST INVERTED TROF  
DEVELOPMENT ALONG A STATIONARY FRONTAL BOUNDARY. THIS CONTS TO BE  
AGREED UPON BY MODELS AND SHOULD SPREAD SOME HEAVY RAIN INTO THE  
CENTRAL GULF COAST REGION SUN INTO WED. SOUTHWARD T.D. ELEVEN HAS  
FORMED AND SHOULD SLOWLY MOVE NWD DURING THE PERIOD TOWARDS THE  
YUCATAN CHANNEL. BY DAYS 6 AND 7 PREFER BROAD CYCLONIC MEAN MID  
LEVEL FLOW INTO WRN CONUS WITH SOME ERN CONUS RIDGING WITH AS  
MENTIONED ABOVE LOW CONFIDENCE.  
ROSENSTEIN  

 
 
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