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FXUS02 KWBC 020714  
PMDEPD  
 
EXTENDED FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NWS WEATHER PREDICTION CENTER COLLEGE PARK MD  
313 AM EDT TUE MAY 02 2023  
 
VALID 12Z FRI MAY 05 2023 - 12Z TUE MAY 09 2023  
 
...COOL/WET PATTERN FOR THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST/GREAT BASIN/ROCKIES  
INTO THE WEEKEND WITH LOCALIZED FLOODING CONCERNS...  
 
   
..OVERVIEW
 
 
THE UPPER LEVEL PATTERN IS FORECAST TO EVOLVE FROM THE STUBBORN  
OMEGA BLOCK CENTERED OVER THE CONUS THIS PAST WEEK/WEEKEND AND  
TOWARDS MEAN RIDGING BUILDING OVER THE CENTRAL/EASTERN CONUS AND  
MEAN TROUGHING OVER THE CENTRAL/WESTERN CONUS. CONDITIONS WILL BE  
COOL AND WET IN THE WEST UNDER THE INFLUENCE OF THE UPPER-LEVEL  
TROUGHING, WITH HEAVY RAINFALL ON TOP OF MOUNTAIN SNOW MELT  
LEADING TO LOCALIZED FLOODING CONCERNS IN THE GREAT BASIN/NORTHERN  
ROCKIES. MOISTURE SOURCED FROM THE GULF AND PACIFIC WILL BRING THE  
POTENTIAL FOR MULTIPLE REGIONS OF LOCALLY HEAVY RAIN TO THE  
PLAINS/MISSISSIPPI VALLEY THROUGH THE WEEKEND AND INTO NEXT WEEK  
DEPENDING ON THE EVOLUTION OF SHORTWAVE ENERGY ALOFT.  
   
..GUIDANCE/PREDICTABILITY ASSESSMENT
 
 
UPDATED MODEL GUIDANCE SHOWS A TRANSITION IN THE UPPER-LEVEL  
PATTERN AWAY FROM THE STUBBORN OMEGA BLOCK CENTERED OVER THE CONUS  
TO MEAN RIDGING IN THE CENTRAL-EAST CONUS AND MEAN TROUGHING OVER  
THE CENTRAL-WEST CONUS LATE THIS WEEK AND INTO THE WEEKEND. AN  
INITIAL WAVE OF ENERGY IN THE MEAN FLOW WILL BE EJECTING NORTHWARD  
OVER THE GREAT BASIN/NORTHERN ROCKIES INTO CANADA AS ADDITIONAL  
SHORTWAVE ENERGY ROUNDS THE WESTERN TROUGH, WITH THE RIDGE  
BUILDING TO THE EAST. THE BUILDING RIDGE REPLACES LINGERING  
TROUGHING OVER THE NORTHEAST FOLLOWING THE DEPARTURE OF A STUBBORN  
CLOSED LOW OVER THE REGION. THE 12Z/18Z GFS AND 12Z CMC/ECMWF ARE  
IN GENERALLY GOOD AGREEMENT ON THE LARGE SCALE DETAILS THROUGH THE  
EARLY FORECAST PERIOD. THE 12Z UKMET DIVERGES FROM THE OTHER  
SOLUTIONS RATHER QUICKLY IN THE EARLY TO MID-FORECAST PERIOD WITH  
A DEEPER CLOSED-LOW/TROUGH LINGERING OFF THE CALIFORNIA COAST, A  
BIT OUT OF PHASE WITH THE OTHER GUIDANCE. IN ADDITION, THE 12Z  
UKMET IS ALSO MORE AGGRESSIVE WITH SHORTWAVE ENERGY ROUNDING THE  
TROUGH OVER CALIFORNIA AND THE GREAT BASIN/SOUTHWEST.  
 
MORE SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCES APPEAR RATHER QUICKLY DURING THE  
MID-FORECAST PERIOD. THE FIRST CONCERN IS THE HANDLING OF A  
POTENTIAL SHORTWAVE DISRUPTING THE RIDGE OVER THE CENTRAL/EASTERN  
CONUS. THE 12Z ECMWF AS WELL AS THE 12Z ECENS MEAN ARE THE MOST  
AGGRESSIVE WITH THIS FEATURE, WHICH IS APPARENT BUT TO A MUCH  
LESSER EXTENT IN THE 12Z/18Z GFS AND 12Z CMC, AND NOT PRESENT IN  
THE 18Z GEFS MEAN. THE DEGREE TO WHICH THIS DISRUPTS THE RIDGE IN  
THE LATE PERIOD IS ALSO A SOURCE OF DISAGREEMENT IN THE  
DETERMINISTIC GUIDANCE, WHICH MAKES THE ENSEMBLE MEANS LIKELY MORE  
RELIABLE IN CAPTURING THE OVERALL PATTERN AT THIS POINT. THIS  
FEATURE WILL HAVE DOWNSTREAM IMPACTS ON THE  
ORGANIZATION/PROGRESSION OF FRONTAL SYSTEMS OVER THE  
PLAINS/MISSISSIPPI VALLEY. THE HANDLING OF THIS FEATURE IS RATHER  
POOR RUN-TO-RUN IN BOTH THE GFS AND ECMWF SO TOO MUCH EMPHASIS ON  
ANY ONE SOLUTION WOULD NOT BE EXPECTED AT THIS POINT. UPDATED  
GUIDANCE FROM THE 00Z GFS WAS MORE AGGRESSIVE WITH THIS SHORTWAVE,  
SIMILAR TO THE 12Z ECMWF, BUT THE TIMING REMAINS DIFFERENT. THERE  
IS ALSO SIGNIFICANT DISAGREEMENT WITH RESPECT TO THE EVOLUTION OF  
THE PATTERN OVER THE WEST LATE PERIOD BETWEEN BOTH THE  
DETERMINISTIC AND ENSEMBLE GUIDANCE. THE ECMWF HAS WAFFLED  
RUN-TO-RUN WITH DEPICTING A CLOSED LOW MOVING INTO THE PACIFIC  
NORTHWEST. THE 18Z GFS IS COMPLETELY OUT OF PHASE WITH THE 12Z  
ECMWF, WHILE THE 12Z GFS, WITHOUT THE CLOSED LOW, AT LEAST STILL  
RETAINS MEAN TROUGHING/RIDGING IN GENERALLY THE SAME PHASE. THE  
00Z GFS FOLLOWED A SIMILAR EVOLUTION TO THE 18Z GFS, LEADING TO  
EVEN LESS CONFIDENCE IN THE PATTERN LATE PERIOD. THE AMPLIFICATION  
OF MEAN TROUGHING OVER THE WEST IS ALSO LOWER IN THE 18Z GEFS MEAN  
COMPARED TO THE 12Z ECENS MEAN AND THE 12Z ECMWF/GFS/CMC.  
 
THE WPC FORECAST PACKAGE BEGINS WITH A BLEND OF THE 12Z ECMWF/CMC  
AND 12Z/18Z GFS. THE 12Z UKMET WAS NOT INCLUDED GIVEN THE NOTABLE  
DIFFERENCES IN THE EVOLUTION OF THE PATTERN OVER THE WEST. THE  
CONTRIBUTION FROM THE 18Z GFS IS REMOVED MID-PERIOD AS IT DIVERGES  
FROM THE OTHER SOLUTIONS IN HANDLING THE CENTRAL/EASTERN CONUS  
SHORTWAVE. THE UPDATED BLEND HAS LED TO A BIT WEAKER/MORE  
NORTHERLY TRACK OF THIS SHORTWAVE, BUT RETAINS IT COMPARED TO THE  
12Z AND ESPECIALLY 18Z GFS, WHICH ACCOUNTS FOR TRENDS IN THE  
UPDATED GUIDANCE WHILE NOT SHIFTING TOO FAR AWAY FROM THE PRIOR  
FORECAST PACKAGE UNTIL THERE IS MORE CONFIDENCE IN HOW THIS  
PATTERN EVOLVES. THE BLEND IN THE LATE FORECAST PERIOD IS SPLIT  
BETWEEN A CONTRIBUTION FROM THE 12Z CMC/ECMWF/GFS AND THE 12Z  
ECENS/18Z GEFS MEANS GIVEN THE NOTED LOW CONFIDENCE IN THE PATTERN  
OVER THE WEST. THE CONTRIBUTION FROM THE 12Z ECMWF WAS REDUCED  
GIVEN THE EMPHASIS ON A CLOSED LOW IN THE LATEST RUN. THE  
COMBINATION OF THIS SPECIFIC GUIDANCE RELIES ON SIMILAR OVERALL  
PHASING OF MEAN TROUGHING OVER THE WEST, EVEN WITH NOTABLE SMALL  
AND LARGE-SCALE DETAILS YET TO BE RESOLVED.  
   
..WEATHER/HAZARDS HIGHLIGHTS
 
 
PRECIPITATION CHANCES WILL REMAIN HIGH AND WIDESPREAD FOR THE  
PACIFIC NORTHWEST/GREAT BASIN/NORTHERN ROCKIES LATE THIS  
WEEK/WEEKEND AS AN UPPER-LEVEL WAVE AND MULTIPLE FRONTAL SYSTEMS  
IMPACT THE REGION. RAINFALL MAY BE LOCALLY HEAVY AT TIMES, WITH  
SOME SCATTERED THUNDERSTORM CHANCES. THE RAINFALL ON TOP OF  
ONGOING SNOW MELT MAY LEAD TO SOME FLOODING CONCERNS IN TERRAIN  
SENSITIVE AREAS AROUND THE FOOTHILLS OF MOUNTAIN RANGES AS WELL AS  
ALONG LOCAL STREAMS/RIVERS FRIDAY, WITH A BROAD "MARGINAL RISK"  
EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OUTLOOK IN PLACE. SOME SNOW SHOWERS WILL BE  
POSSIBLE AT HIGHER MOUNTAIN ELEVATIONS. TEMPERATURES WILL REMAIN A  
BIT COOL MORE BROADLY ACROSS THE WEST, WITH HIGHS RUNNING 5-10  
DEGREES BELOW AVERAGE THROUGH THE PERIOD.  
 
MOIST, UPSLOPE FLOW SETTLING IN ALONG PORTIONS OF THE  
NORTHERN/CENTRAL HIGH PLAINS AHEAD OF A POTENTIAL BETTER ORGANIZED  
SURFACE FRONTAL SYSTEM PASSING THROUGH THE PLAINS/UPPER MIDWEST  
LOOK TO BRING MULTIPLE DAYS OF RAINFALL FRIDAY-SUNDAY. A "MARGINAL  
RISK" HAS BEEN MAINTAINED FOR PORTIONS OF THE NORTHERN/CENTRAL  
PLAINS FRIDAY WHERE MORE ORGANIZED CONVECTION MAY PRODUCE SOME  
LOCALLY HEAVY RAINFALL TOTALS. FURTHER SOUTH, GULF MOISTURE  
FLOWING NORTHWARD AS WELL AS ADDITIONAL MOISTURE SOURCED FROM THE  
PACIFIC WILL SPREAD NORTHEASTWARD ACROSS THE CENTRAL/SOUTHERN  
PLAINS AND MIDDLE/LOWER MISSISSIPPI VALLEY INTO THE SOUTHEAST LATE  
WEEK LEADING TO A BROAD REGION OF SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS. THE  
EVOLUTION OF THE PATTERN HAS REMAINED RATHER NEBULOUS THE LAST FEW  
DAYS AS THE GUIDANCE HAS VARIED ON THE TIMING AND EVOLUTION OF  
EMBEDDED SHORTWAVE ENERGY ALOFT, LESSENING CONFIDENCE ON THE  
SPECIFICS OF REGIONS OF HEAVIER RAINFALL AND POTENTIAL FLASH  
FLOODING CONCERNS. HOWEVER, THE GUIDANCE HAS SHOWN THE HIGHEST  
CONFIDENCE IN WIDESPREAD CONVECTION AND HIGH QPF AMOUNTS FROM THE  
MIDDLE MISSISSIPPI TO TENNESSEE VALLEY FRIDAY, WITH THE POTENTIAL  
FOR TRAINING APPEARING SUFFICIENT TO SUPPORT A "MARGINAL RISK"  
AREA. ADDITIONAL HEAVY RAINFALL CHANCES LOOK POSSIBLE OVER THE  
WEEKEND MORE BROADLY ACROSS THE CENTRAL/SOUTHEASTERN U.S.,  
PARTICULARLY THE LOWER MISSISSIPPI VALLEY, BUT CONFIDENCE REMAINS  
LOW GIVEN THE GUIDANCE SPREAD IN HOW THE SURFACE PATTERN AND  
SUPPORTING SHORTWAVE DYNAMICS WILL EVOLVE. HIGH TEMPERATURES WILL  
BE SEASONABLY WARM FOR EARLY MAY FROM THE PLAINS TO THE SOUTHEAST  
UNDER THE INFLUENCE OF MEAN RIDGING ALOFT, WITH SOME HIGHS RUNNING  
10-15 DEGREES ABOVE AVERAGE IN THE CENTRAL PLAINS.  
 
THE PERSISTENT COOL/WET PATTERN OVER THE GREAT LAKES AND NORTHEAST  
DUE TO A STUBBORN UPPER-LEVEL LOW THIS PAST WEEK/WEEKEND WILL  
FINALLY MODERATE THIS UPCOMING WEEKEND, WITH HIGH TEMPERATURES  
RETURNING TO NEAR TO SLIGHTLY ABOVE AVERAGE LEVELS INTO EARLY NEXT  
WEEK. PRECIPITATION CHANCES WILL REMAIN LOW UNDER THE INFLUENCE OF  
A BROAD AREA OF HIGH PRESSURE IN PLACE. SHOWER AND THUNDERSTORM  
CHANCES WILL INCREASE FOR THE CAROLINAS SOUTH INTO FLORIDA THIS  
WEEKEND, WITH AMOUNTS AND COVERAGE LIKELY DICTATED BY A WEAK WAVE  
ALOFT AND SURFACE FRONTAL BOUNDARY INFLUENCE THAT REMAIN HARD TO  
PIN DOWN AT THIS TIMEFRAME.  
 
PUTNAM  
 
ADDITIONAL 3-7 DAY HAZARD INFORMATION CAN BE FOUND ON THE WPC  
MEDIUM RANGE HAZARDS OUTLOOK CHART AT:  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/THREATS/THREATS.PHP  
 
WPC MEDIUM RANGE 500MB HEIGHTS, SURFACE SYSTEMS, WEATHER GRIDS,  
QUANTITATIVE PRECIPITATION, EXPERIMENTAL EXCESSIVE RAINFALL  
OUTLOOK, WINTER WEATHER OUTLOOK PROBABILITIES AND HEAT INDICES ARE  
AT:  
 
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST500_WBG.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST_WBG_CONUS.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/5KM_GRIDS/5KM_GRIDSBODY.HTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/QPF/DAY4-7.SHTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/#PAGE=ERO  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/WWD/PWPF_D47/PWPF_MEDR.PHP?DAY=4  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/HEAT_INDEX.SHTML  
 

 
 

 
 
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