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FXUS02 KWBC 290701  
PMDEPD  
 
EXTENDED FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NWS WEATHER PREDICTION CENTER COLLEGE PARK MD  
300 AM EDT TUE AUG 29 2023  
 
VALID 12Z FRI SEP 01 2023 - 12Z TUE SEP 05 2023  
 
...HEAT LOOKS TO INCREASE ACROSS THE PLAINS TO MIDWEST LATE THIS  
WEEK INTO NEXT WEEK...  
 
   
..OVERVIEW
 
 
AS IDALIA SHOULD BE TRACKING AWAY FROM THE U.S. AS THE MEDIUM  
RANGE PERIOD BEGINS FRIDAY, FOCUS WILL SHIFT TO AN AMPLIFYING  
UPPER-LEVEL PATTERN COMPOSED MAINLY OF AN UPPER TROUGH (WITH AN  
EMBEDDED CLOSED LOW LATE WEEK) OVER THE WEST COAST, WHILE UPPER  
RIDGING DOMINATES EAST OF IT ACROSS THE CENTRAL CONUS. THESE  
FEATURES SHOULD SHIFT GRADUALLY EASTWARD INTO EARLY NEXT WEEK.  
THIS PATTERN WILL ALLOW FOR WELL ABOVE AVERAGE TEMPERATURES TO  
BUILD ACROSS THE PLAINS AND UPPER MIDWEST. MEANWHILE RAIN CHANCES  
ARE POSSIBLE ACROSS MUCH OF THE WEST UNDERNEATH AND EAST OF THE  
UPPER TROUGH WITHIN MOIST MEAN SOUTHERLY FLOW. ADDITIONALLY,  
SCATTERED STORMS COULD PERSIST LATE WEEK INTO EARLY NEXT WEEK  
ALONG THE GULF COAST AND FLORIDA AS A FRONTAL BOUNDARY STALLS  
ACROSS THE REGION.  
 
   
..GUIDANCE EVALUATION/PREDICTABILITY ASSESSMENT
 
 
MODEL GUIDANCE SHOWS REASONABLY GOOD AGREEMENT WITH THE PATTERN  
DESCRIBED ABOVE, ESPECIALLY EARLY IN THE PERIOD/LATE THIS WEEK.  
SOME SPREAD IN THE TROUGH AXIS/LOW ALONG THE WEST COAST IS MAINLY  
WITH THE 12Z CMC ON THE WESTERN SIDE OF THE ENVELOPE. THE 00Z  
MODEL SUITE SHOWS EVEN BETTER AGREEMENT IN ITS POSITION. BY EARLY  
NEXT WEEK THE TROUGH SHOULD BE SHIFTING EASTWARD BUT THE DETAILS  
BECOME MORE UNCERTAIN WITHIN THE TROUGH, ESPECIALLY AS SECONDARY  
ROUNDS OF ENERGY COME INTO IT FROM UPSTREAM. FOR NOW THE WPC  
FORECAST FAVORED A DETERMINISTIC BLEND EARLY WITH MORE WEIGHTING  
ON THE ECMWF AND GFS, WITH GRADUALLY INCREASING PROPORTIONS OF THE  
GEFS AND EC ENSEMBLE MEANS WITH TIME TO SMOOTH OUT DIFFERENCES OF  
SHORTWAVES WITHIN THE FLOW, WHICH CAN HOPEFULLY BE BETTER RESOLVED  
WITH TIME.  
 
SOMETHING WE ARE MONITORING, THOUGH CERTAINLY NOT BITING ON AT  
THIS POINT, IS THE POTENTIAL FOR AT LEAST A PORTION OF IDALIA'S  
ENERGY TO DRIFT SOUTH IN THE WESTERN ATLANTIC TO THE EAST OF  
FLORIDA AND THEN ACTUALLY TRACK BACK WESTWARD INTO THE ATLANTIC  
COAST OF FLORIDA. THE 12/18/00Z GFS RUNS ALL SHOWED SOME SEMBLANCE  
OF THIS, WITH THE 12 AND 18Z RUNS VERY QUICK TO MAKE THIS LOOP.  
INTERESTINGLY THE 00Z CMC INDICATES THIS POTENTIAL AS WELL, THOUGH  
IS SLOWER TO DO SO, BUT IS NOT TOO FAR OFF FROM THE 00Z GFS, BOTH  
SHOWING THE SYSTEM APPROACHING THE FLORIDA ATLANTIC COAST BY  
AROUND NEXT TUESDAY. SOME GEFS AND CMC ENSEMBLE MEMBERS ARE  
SHOWING A SIMILAR TRACK WHILE ESSENTIALLY NO 12Z EC ENSEMBLE  
MEMBERS ARE. THE NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER TRACK TAKES IDALIA EAST  
AWAY FROM THE U.S. LATE WEEK AND THEN DECELERATING WITH TIME, BUT  
IN THE EASTWARD DIRECTION. THERE IS A FAIR AMOUNT OF UNCERTAINTY  
IN ITS TRACK SINCE IT ENDS UP IN AN AREA OF WEAK FLOW WITH LITTLE  
TO STEER IT. SO THIS WILL CONTINUE TO BE MONITORED.  
 
   
..WEATHER/HAZARDS HIGHLIGHTS
 
 
RAIN IS LIKELY ACROSS THE NORTHWEST WITH AN AMPLIFYING UPPER  
TROUGH/EMBEDDED CLOSED LOW EXPECTED TO SETTLE ALONG THE WEST COAST  
LATE WEEK. THE AMPLE FORCING FOR ASCENT THAT THIS WILL PROVIDE AS  
WELL AS SOME INSTABILITY IN PLACE COULD ALLOW FOR SOME LOCALIZED  
FLOODING ISSUES IN INTERIOR PARTS OF THE NORTHWEST, IN PORTIONS OF  
OREGON, NORTHERN CALIFORNIA, AND NEVADA. MARGINAL RISKS OF  
EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ARE IN PLACE FOR THIS THREAT FOR FRIDAY AND  
SATURDAY, WITH BURN SCARS AND URBAN AREAS PARTICULARLY VULNERABLE.  
FARTHER EAST, CONVECTION IS LIKELY ON FRIDAY ACROSS ARIZONA AND  
UTAH IN PARTICULAR AND NORTHWARD INTO THE NORTHERN GREAT  
BASIN/ROCKIES WITH A SURGE OF MONSOONAL MOISTURE FROM MEAN  
SOUTHERLY FLOW EAST OF THE TROUGH. PLENTY OF INSTABILITY IN PLACE  
AND ABOVE AVERAGE MOISTURE LEVELS INTO THE DESERT SOUTHWEST  
SUPPORT MARGINAL RISKS IN THE ERO BOTH FRIDAY AND SATURDAY WITH  
THIS ACTIVITY, LIKELY PEAKING ON FRIDAY. AS THE TROUGH SHIFTS  
INLAND, COVERAGE OF PRECIPITATION COULD FOCUS ACROSS THE  
INTERMOUNTAIN WEST EARLY NEXT WEEK AND EVENTUALLY INTO THE  
NORTHERN PLAINS.  
 
ADDITIONALLY, A STALLED FRONT ACROSS THE GULF COAST WILL PROVIDE A  
FOCUS FOR MOISTURE TO POOL, AND SCATTERED THUNDERSTORMS ARE LIKELY  
FROM THE CENTRAL GULF COAST INTO FLORIDA THROUGH MUCH OF THE WEEK  
AND THE WEEKEND. THERE MAY BE A NONZERO CHANCE OF FLASH FLOODING  
WITH THIS ACTIVITY THAT LOOKS TO PEAK FRIDAY, ESPECIALLY IF HIGH  
RAIN RATES OCCUR IN SENSITIVE URBAN AREAS.  
 
COOLER THAN AVERAGE HIGH TEMPERATURES ARE FORECAST FOR THE  
NORTHWEST AND SHIFTING/EXPANDING INTO CALIFORNIA TO THE GREAT  
BASIN GIVEN THE TROUGHING ALOFT. SLIGHTLY BELOW NORMAL  
TEMPERATURES ARE FORECAST ACROSS THE EAST AS WELL FOR ON FRIDAY  
BEFORE WARMING TO NEAR NORMAL BY THE WEEKEND. BUT IN BETWEEN, A  
STRENGTHENING UPPER RIDGE WILL ALLOW TEMPERATURES TO RISE  
CONSIDERABLY IN THE CENTRAL U.S. BY LATE WEEK AND THROUGH THE  
HOLIDAY WEEKEND. HIGHS WELL INTO THE 90S WILL EXPAND ALL THE WAY  
INTO THE NORTHERN PLAINS AND EAST ACROSS THE MISSISSIPPI VALLEY,  
WHILE HIGHS EXCEEDING 100 ARE LIKELY FOR THE SOUTHERN HALF OF THE  
PLAINS. THESE FORECAST HIGH TEMPERATURES ARE AROUND 10-20 DEGREES  
ABOVE AVERAGE, PERHAPS LOCALLY HIGHER IN THE UPPER MIDWEST. SOME  
RECORD WARM MAXIMUM AND MINIMUM TEMPERATURES COULD BE SET THERE AS  
WELL. AS THE UPPER RIDGE SHIFTS EAST WITH TIME, TEMPERATURES IN  
THE EAST LOOK TO WARM TO ABOUT 10-15 DEGREES ABOVE NORMAL BY  
MONDAY-TUESDAY.  
 
TATE  
 
ADDITIONAL 3-7 DAY HAZARD INFORMATION CAN BE FOUND ON THE WPC  
MEDIUM RANGE HAZARDS OUTLOOK CHART AT:  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/THREATS/THREATS.PHP  
 
WPC MEDIUM RANGE 500MB HEIGHTS, SURFACE SYSTEMS, WEATHER GRIDS,  
QUANTITATIVE PRECIPITATION FORECAST, EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OUTLOOK,  
WINTER WEATHER OUTLOOK PROBABILITIES, HEAT INDICES AND KEY  
MESSAGES ARE AT:  
 
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST500_WBG.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST_WBG_CONUS.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/5KM_GRIDS/5KM_GRIDSBODY.HTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/QPF/DAY4-7.SHTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/#PAGE=ERO  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/WWD/PWPF_D47/PWPF_MEDR.PHP?DAY=4  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/HEAT_INDEX.SHTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/#PAGE=OVW  
 

 
 

 
 
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