601  
FXUS02 KWBC 090700  
PMDEPD  
 
EXTENDED FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NWS WEATHER PREDICTION CENTER COLLEGE PARK MD  
259 AM EDT SAT SEP 09 2023  
 
VALID 12Z TUE SEP 12 2023 - 12Z SAT SEP 16 2023  
   
..OVERVIEW
 
 
LATEST MODELS AND ENSEMBLES SHOW VARYING DEGREES OF UPPER  
TROUGHING OVER EASTERN NORTH AMERICA DURING THE PERIOD. WITHIN  
THIS MEAN TROUGH, THE MOST PROMINENT FEATURE WILL BE AN UPPER LOW  
FORECAST TO CLOSE OFF OVER THE GREAT LAKES BY MIDWEEK AND THEN  
LIFT NORTHEASTWARD AS DIFFUSE SHORTWAVE ENERGY ENTERING THE  
WESTERN U.S./CANADA EVENTUALLY FEEDS INTO THE TROUGH. THE GREAT  
LAKES LOW AND SURFACE SYSTEM SHOULD PRODUCE SOME MODERATE TO HEAVY  
RAINFALL FROM THE GREAT LAKES/MID-ATLANTIC INTO THE NORTHEAST. BY  
THE END OF NEXT WEEK INTO THE WEEKEND, THE TRACK AND TIMING OF  
HURRICANE LEE WILL REQUIRE MONITORING FOR ANY POTENTIAL EFFECTS ON  
NEW ENGLAND AND THE CANADIAN MARITIMES. OVER THE WEST, GUIDANCE  
DISAGREES OVER THE STRENGTH/EVOLUTION OF INITIAL SHORTWAVE ENERGY  
BUT SUGGESTS THAT UPPER RIDGING SHOULD ULTIMATELY STRENGTHEN OVER  
THE REGION BY LATE NEXT WEEK INTO THE WEEKEND. THE COMBINATION OF  
WESTERN SHORTWAVE ENERGY AND A PERSISTENT SOUTHERN PLAINS FRONT  
WILL FAVOR MULTIPLE EPISODES OF RAIN AND THUNDERSTORMS OVER THE  
SOUTHERN PLAINS THROUGH THE PERIOD, AND EXTENDING AS FAR WEST AS  
ARIZONA TUESDAY-WEDNESDAY. COOLER THAN AVERAGE HIGHS WILL PREVAIL  
OVER A MAJORITY OF THE CENTRAL/EASTERN U.S. WHILE MODERATELY ABOVE  
NORMAL HIGHS SHOULD BECOME ESTABLISHED OVER THE FAR NORTHERN  
PLAINS AND PACIFIC NORTHWEST BY LATE NEXT WEEK/WEEKEND.  
 
   
..GUIDANCE EVALUATION/PREDICTABILITY ASSESSMENT
 
 
THE PRIMARY FORECAST ISSUE FOR THE SYSTEM CLOSING OFF OVER THE  
GREAT LAKES BY TUESDAY-WEDNESDAY AND LIFTING NORTHEASTWARD  
THEREAFTER IS THAT LATEST GFS RUNS STRAY TO THE FAST SIDE AFTER  
DAY 3 TUESDAY. EVEN THE GEFS MEAN LEANS MORE TO THE REMAINING  
SLOWER MODELS/ENSEMBLE MEANS. ON THE OTHER HAND, MODELS AND  
ENSEMBLES HAVE BEEN MORE VARIABLE AND DIVERSE WITH SPECIFICS OF  
UPSTREAM WESTERN NORTH AMERICAN ENERGY THAT SHOULD BE FEEDING INTO  
THE EASTERN MEAN TROUGH LATE IN THE PERIOD. PRECISE DAY-TO-DAY  
DETAILS OF THE EASTERN TROUGH WILL LIKELY PLAY AN IMPORTANT ROLE  
IN DETERMINING THE PATH OF HURRICANE LEE, WHICH GUIDANCE EXPECTS  
TO BE TRACKING NORTHWARD ALONG 65-70W LONGITUDE BY NEXT SATURDAY.  
THE GREATEST GUIDANCE SPREAD IS FOR TIMING, WITH GFS RUNS BEING  
THE FAST EXTREME WHILE THE 12Z ECMWF/ECMWF MEAN ARE SLOWEST.  
WHILE EAST-WEST DIFFERENCES IN TRACK ARE MUCH SMALLER RELATIVE TO  
SPEED, PRECISE LONGITUDE WILL BE VERY IMPORTANT WITH RESPECT TO  
ANY POTENTIAL EFFECTS ON NEW ENGLAND AND THE CANADIAN MARITIMES.  
CONTINUE TO MONITOR NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER PRODUCTS FOR THE  
LATEST INFORMATION ON THE STRENGTH/TRACK OF LEE. MEANWHILE, THERE  
IS A LOT OF SPREAD FOR DETAILS OF SMALLER SCALE/LOWER  
PREDICTABILITY ENERGY THAT MAY BE OVER PARTS OF THE WEST INTO  
MID-LATE WEEK, FAVORING AN INTERMEDIATE BLEND. OVERALL THE  
CONSENSUS EVOLUTION IS TOWARD A STRONGER MEAN RIDGE PREVAILING  
OVER MOST OF THE WEST LATE NEXT WEEK INTO THE WEEKEND.  
 
FORECAST CONSIDERATIONS LED TO STARTING WITH AN OPERATIONAL MODEL  
BLEND ON DAY 3 TUESDAY, FOLLOWED BY REPLACING THE GFS COMPONENT  
WITH THE 18Z GEFS MEAN FROM DAY 4 WEDNESDAY ONWARD DUE TO THE GFS  
BEING FAST WITH THE GREAT LAKES SYSTEM. DECREASING CONFIDENCE IN  
OTHER DETAILS LED TO 60 PERCENT TOTAL WEIGHT OF THE 18Z GEFS AND  
12Z ECENS/CMCENS MEANS BY DAYS 6-7 FRIDAY-SATURDAY, WITH LINGERING  
INPUT FROM THE 12Z CMC/ECMWF. WITH SOME MANUAL ADJUSTMENT, THE  
FORECAST REFLECTS AN INTERMEDIATE TIMING FOR LEE BY THE END OF THE  
PERIOD.  
 
   
..WEATHER/HAZARDS HIGHLIGHTS
 
 
THE DAYS 4-5 EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OUTLOOKS (EROS) THAT COVER TUESDAY  
THROUGH WEDNESDAY NIGHT REFLECT HEAVY RAINFALL/FLASH FLOOD  
POTENTIAL OVER TWO GENERAL AREAS, ONE OVER CENTRAL/NORTHERN  
PORTIONS OF THE EAST AND THE OTHER OVER/WEST OF THE SOUTHERN  
PLAINS. DURING THE DAY 4 TIME FRAME, THE SYSTEM BEGINNING TO  
EVOLVE OVER THE GREAT LAKES MAY GENERATE SOME LOCALLY ENHANCED  
RAINFALL FROM THE GREAT LAKES/APPALACHIANS INTO THE MID-ATLANTIC.  
GUIDANCE IS NOT FULLY AGREEABLE ON THE EXACT FORECAST SCENARIO  
QPF-WISE BUT THIS AREA WILL HAVE WET ANTECEDENT CONDITIONS FROM  
RECENT AND NEAR-FUTURE RAINFALL. BY DAY 5 EXPECT A MORE  
PRONOUNCED POTENTIAL FOR HEAVIER RAINFALL OVER PORTIONS OF THE  
NORTHEAST, WHERE THE SLOWER NON-GFS MAJORITY CLUSTER FOR THE  
SYSTEM HEADING INTO THE REGION MERITS A SLIGHT RISK. FROM THE  
SOUTHERN PLAINS WESTWARD, SHORTWAVE ENERGY WILL INTERACT WITH  
ANOMALOUS MOISTURE TO YIELD AREAS OF LOCALLY HEAVY RAIN AND  
THUNDERSTORMS. A FRONT PERSISTING OVER THE SOUTHERN PLAINS WILL  
PROVIDE ANOTHER RAINFALL FOCUS. THE CORRESPONDING MARGINAL RISK  
AREA ON DAY 4 EXTENDS FROM PARTS OF TEXAS INTO ARIZONA, WHILE THE  
DAY 5 MARGINAL RISK REFLECTS A NORTHWARD EXPANSION OF ACTIVITY  
INTO COLORADO AND PARTS OF KANSAS/OKLAHOMA BUT A DRIER TREND OVER  
ARIZONA. WITHIN THESE MARGINAL RISK AREAS, POTENTIAL EXISTS FOR  
AN EVENTUAL EMBEDDED SLIGHT RISK DEPENDING ON GUIDANCE  
AGREEMENT/CONTINUITY AND MORE CLARITY ON SOIL CONDITIONS, IN LIGHT  
OF SOME AREAS BEING FAIRLY DRY TO START BUT EXPECTED TO RECEIVE  
SOME RAINFALL SOON BEFORE THE DAYS 4-5 PERIOD.  
 
SOME MODERATE TO HEAVY RAINFALL MAY CONTINUE INTO EASTERN NEW  
ENGLAND THROUGH LATE NEXT WEEK. RAINFALL AND OTHER SENSIBLE  
WEATHER DETAILS FOR NEW ENGLAND BY NEXT WEEKEND WILL DEPEND ON THE  
TRACK AND TIMING OF HURRICANE LEE. CONTINUE TO MONITOR NATIONAL  
HURRICANE CENTER PRODUCTS FOR THE LATEST INFORMATION ON LEE OVER  
THE COMING DAYS. THE RAIN AND THUNDERSTORMS OVER THE SOUTHERN  
PLAINS AND ROCKIES SHOULD CONTINUE THROUGH THE END OF THE WEEK,  
THOUGH WITH A SOMEWHAT LIGHTER/MORE SCATTERED TREND OVER THE  
ROCKIES.  
 
BELOW NORMAL HIGH TEMPERATURES OVER THE CENTRAL U.S. AND  
MIDWEST/GREAT LAKES AS OF TUESDAY SHOULD GRADUALLY SPREAD FARTHER  
EASTWARD, THOUGH WITH A MODERATING TREND BY FRIDAY-SATURDAY. BEST  
POTENTIAL FOR HIGHS 10-15F BELOW NORMAL WILL BE DURING  
TUESDAY-THURSDAY OVER THE CENTRAL/SOUTH-CENTRAL PLAINS AS WELL AS  
THE GREAT LAKES/OHIO VALLEY. SLIGHTLY ABOVE NORMAL TEMPERATURES  
MAY HOLD ON OVER FAR SOUTHERN TEXAS A LITTLE BEYOND MIDWEEK, WHILE  
THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST EASTWARD TO THE FAR NORTHERN PLAINS MAY  
TREND SOMEWHAT ABOVE NORMAL BY THURSDAY-SATURDAY.  
 
RAUSCH  
 
ADDITIONAL 3-7 DAY HAZARD INFORMATION CAN BE FOUND ON THE WPC  
MEDIUM RANGE HAZARDS OUTLOOK CHART AT:  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/THREATS/THREATS.PHP  
 
WPC MEDIUM RANGE 500MB HEIGHTS, SURFACE SYSTEMS, WEATHER GRIDS,  
QUANTITATIVE PRECIPITATION FORECAST, EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OUTLOOK,  
WINTER WEATHER OUTLOOK PROBABILITIES, HEAT INDICES AND KEY  
MESSAGES ARE AT:  
 
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST500_WBG.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST_WBG_CONUS.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/5KM_GRIDS/5KM_GRIDSBODY.HTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/QPF/DAY4-7.SHTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/#PAGE=ERO  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/WWD/PWPF_D47/PWPF_MEDR.PHP?DAY=4  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/HEAT_INDEX.SHTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/#PAGE=OVW  
 

 
 

 
 
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