784  
FXUS02 KWBC 110700  
PMDEPD  
 
EXTENDED FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NWS WEATHER PREDICTION CENTER COLLEGE PARK MD  
259 AM EDT MON SEP 11 2023  
 
VALID 12Z THU SEP 14 2023 - 12Z MON SEP 18 2023  
   
..OVERVIEW
 
 
THE MODELS AND ENSEMBLES AGREE FAIRLY WELL ON THE IDEA OF A STRONG  
UPPER RIDGE BUILDING OVER THE WEST LATE THIS WEEK INTO THE START  
OF NEXT WEEK, WHILE DEPARTING WESTERN U.S. SHORTWAVE ENERGY AND  
SOUTHERN CANADA ENERGY COMBINE TO YIELD AN AMPLIFYING UPPER TROUGH  
OVER THE EASTERN HALF OF THE COUNTRY. AHEAD OF THIS DEVELOPING  
TROUGH, A LEADING UPPER LOW/TROUGH WILL EJECT ACROSS SOUTHEASTERN  
CANADA AND THE NORTHEASTERN U.S. LATE THIS WEEK. PRECISE UPPER  
FLOW DETAILS NEAR THE EAST COAST AND SPECIFICS OF RIDGING FARTHER  
EAST OVER THE ATLANTIC WILL BE IMPORTANT IN DETERMINING THE EXACT  
TRACK AND TIMING OF HURRICANE LEE AND CORRESPONDING EFFECTS ON NEW  
ENGLAND AND THE CANADIAN MARITIMES. THE INITIAL SHORTWAVE ENERGY  
OVER THE WEST INTO THE PLAINS ALONG WITH EASTERLY LOW LEVEL FLOW  
OVER PARTS OF THE SOUTHERN PLAINS WILL HELP TO GENERATE AREAS OF  
RAIN AND THUNDERSTORMS THAT COULD BE LOCALLY HEAVY OVER THE  
ROCKIES AND INTO THE SOUTHERN PLAINS. COOLER THAN AVERAGE HIGHS  
PREVAILING OVER A MAJORITY OF THE CENTRAL/EASTERN U.S. LATE THIS  
WEEK SHOULD MODERATE SOME BY THE WEEKEND WHILE ABOVE NORMAL HIGHS  
SHOULD BECOME ESTABLISHED OVER THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST INTO NORTHERN  
HIGH PLAINS LATE THIS WEEK INTO THE START OF NEXT WEEK.  
 
   
..GUIDANCE EVALUATION/PREDICTABILITY ASSESSMENT
 
 
AS HAS BEEN THE CASE DURING AT LEAST THE PAST COUPLE DAYS, THE  
GFS/GEFS LEAN A BIT FASTER THAN MOST OTHER GUIDANCE FOR THE SYSTEM  
LIFTING THROUGH NEW ENGLAND. AFTER THIS SYSTEM LIFTS OUT, THE  
FOCUS WILL TURN TO HURRICANE LEE WHICH MAY BECOME EXTRATROPICAL BY  
THE TIME ITS NORTHWARD TRACK REACHES OFFSHORE NEW ENGLAND AND THE  
CANADIAN MARITIMES BY THE WEEKEND. RELATIVE TO THE FULL RANGE OF  
GUIDANCE, THE 18Z/00Z GFS RUNS LEAN SOMEWHAT ON THE WESTERN SIDE  
OF THE ENVELOPE. IN PRINCIPLE THE 12Z ECMWF/ECENS/UKMET AND 00Z  
UKMET ARE CLOSER TO THE MORE LIKELY SCENARIO WHILE THE LATEST CMC  
RUNS ARE CLOSE LONGITUDE-WISE BUT A LITTLE FASTER. THEN THE  
MODELS AND ENSEMBLE MEMBERS SHOW RAPIDLY INCREASING DETAIL SPREAD  
WITHIN THE OVERALL TROUGH AMPLIFYING OVER THE EAST-CENTRAL U.S.  
FROM THE WEEKEND INTO EARLY NEXT WEEK. POSSIBILITIES RANGE  
BETWEEN AN OPEN TROUGH AND ONE OR MORE EMBEDDED LOWS ANYWHERE  
BETWEEN THE MIDWEST/GREAT LAKES AND CANADA. POOR CLUSTERING AND  
RUN-TO-RUN VARIABILITY CURRENTLY FAVOR A CONSERVATIVE APPROACH  
MORE LIKE THE OPEN TROUGH OF THE ENSEMBLE MEANS, WITH THE 12Z  
ECMWF CLOSEST TO THAT IDEA.  
 
BASED ON FORECAST PREFERENCES OVER THE COURSE OF THE PERIOD, THE  
UPDATED FORECAST WAS WEIGHTED MORE TOWARD THE 12Z ECMWF/UKMET/CMC  
WITH JUST A LITTLE 18Z GEFS INPUT FOLLOWED BY A TRANSITION TOWARD  
60-70 PERCENT GEFS/ECENS/CMCENS WITH THE REST 12Z ECMWF BY DAYS  
6-7 SUNDAY-MONDAY. NOTE THAT THE MOST LIKELY TRACK FOR LEE (EAST  
OF LATEST GFS RUNS) CONTINUES TO SUGGEST THAT NBM QPF MAY BE TOO  
HIGH OVER NEW ENGLAND AND THUS IT IS BEING ADJUSTED LOWER.  
 
   
..WEATHER/HAZARDS HIGHLIGHTS
 
 
DURING THE DAY 4 EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OUTLOOK PERIOD OF  
THURSDAY-THURSDAY NIGHT THERE SHOULD BE A BROAD AREA OF RAIN AND  
THUNDERSTORM POTENTIAL FROM THE CENTRAL HALF OF THE ROCKIES INTO  
THE SOUTHERN PLAINS, WITH ONE AREA OF SHORTWAVE ENERGY OVER THE  
GREAT BASIN AND SOME WEAK IMPULSES FLOWING INTO THE PLAINS.  
EASTERLY LOW LEVEL FLOW DIRECTED OVER THE SOUTHERN HIGH PLAINS  
INTO A POTENTIAL SURFACE TROUGH MAY ALSO SUPPORT CONVECTION. A  
MARGINAL RISK AREA ENCOMPASSES THIS OVERALL REGION THAT COULD SEE  
LOCALLY HEAVY RAINFALL. THERE ARE TWO EMBEDDED SLIGHT RISK AREAS  
THAT REFLECT THE BEST COMBINATION OF GUIDANCE SIGNALS/PARAMETERS.  
ONE IS OVER THE SOUTHWESTERN OKLAHOMA/NORTHERN TEXAS, REFLECTING  
SOME INDICATION THAT ENHANCED CONVECTION COULD EXTEND  
NORTHWESTWARD VERSUS PRIOR ERO ISSUANCE. ESPECIALLY THE WESTERN  
PART OF THIS SLIGHT RISK AREA IS EXPECTED TO HAVE MEANINGFUL  
RAINFALL BEFORE DAY 4. MEANWHILE A SEPARATE SLIGHT RISK AREA  
CENTERED MOSTLY OVER WYOMING WILL BE INTRODUCED, WITH GUIDANCE  
STARTING TO SHOW A MORE PRONOUNCED SIGNAL FOR A SLOW MOVING GREAT  
BASIN SHORTWAVE AND ANOMALOUS MOISTURE COMBINING TO SUPPORT  
LOCALIZED HEAVY RAINFALL POTENTIAL. THE DAY 5 EXCESSIVE RAINFALL  
OUTLOOK THAT COVERS FRIDAY-FRIDAY NIGHT DEPICTS A MARGINAL RISK  
AREA FROM THE CENTRAL HIGH PLAINS INTO PARTS OF TEXAS. CONVECTION  
SHOULD CONTINUE INTO THIS TIME FRAME BUT MOST GUIDANCE SHOWS SOME  
DECREASE IN MOISTURE ANOMALIES AND THE BEST FOCUS FOR RAINFALL  
BECOMES LESS DEFINED.  
 
SOME RAIN/THUNDERSTORMS SHOULD CONTINUE OVER PARTS OF THE SOUTHERN  
ROCKIES/PLAINS AND PERHAPS THE SOUTH BEYOND EARLY SATURDAY BUT  
LIKELY WITH LESS COVERAGE AND LIGHTER TOTALS. MEANWHILE A FRONT  
SETTLING OVER THE FLORIDA PENINSULA MAY PRODUCE ONE OR MORE DAYS  
OF RAIN OVER THAT REGION. OVER NEW ENGLAND, EXPECT ANY LINGERING  
RAIN FROM THE MIDWEEK SYSTEM TO DEPART ON THURSDAY. CONTINUE TO  
MONITOR NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER PRODUCTS REGARDING THE TRACK OF  
HURRICANE LEE AND POTENTIAL EFFECTS ON NEW ENGLAND AND THE  
CANADIAN MARITIMES BY LATE WEEK AND THE WEEKEND. UNCERTAINTY WITH  
DETAILS FOR THE UPPER TROUGH EVOLVING OVER THE EASTERN HALF OF THE  
COUNTRY DURING THE WEEKEND AND EARLY NEXT WEEK KEEPS CONFIDENCE  
LOW FOR WHAT THE SURFACE PATTERN MAY LOOK LIKE ALONG WITH ANY  
AREAS OF RAINFALL, THOUGH INTO FRIDAY OR SO A FRONT REACHING THE  
UPPER MIDWEST COULD PRODUCE SOME AREAS OF MOSTLY LIGHT RAIN.  
 
BELOW NORMAL HIGH TEMPERATURES WILL PREVAIL OVER MOST OF THE  
ROCKIES, CENTRAL/SOUTH-CENTRAL PLAINS, AND MUCH OF THE EAST LATE  
THIS WEEK. EXPECT COOLEST READINGS UP TO 10-15F BELOW NORMAL OVER  
PARTS OF THE ROCKIES AND SOUTH-CENTRAL PLAINS WHERE  
CLOUDS/RAINFALL SHOULD BE MOST PERSISTENT. THE GREAT LAKES/OHIO  
VALLEY/APPALACHIANS SHOULD SEE HIGHS 5-10F OR SO BELOW NORMAL  
BEHIND THE COLD FRONT PUSHING OFF THE EAST COAST ON THURSDAY.  
TEMPERATURES SHOULD MODERATE SATURDAY-MONDAY, REACHING NEAR NORMAL  
BY EARLY NEXT WEEK. CONTINUED HOT WEATHER WITH HIGHS UP TO 5-10F  
ABOVE NORMAL WILL BE POSSIBLE OVER SOUTHERN TEXAS THROUGH LATE  
WEEK BEFORE A COOLER TREND. THE UPPER RIDGE BUILDING INTO THE  
WEST WILL SUPPORT HIGHS 10F OR MORE ABOVE NORMAL OVER THE PACIFIC  
NORTHWEST FROM LATE WEEK THROUGH THE WEEKEND, WITH A BROADER AREA  
OF MORNING LOWS 5-15F ABOVE NORMAL ACROSS THE WEST. SOME OF THIS  
WARMTH MAY EXTEND INTO THE NORTHERN HIGH PLAINS WHILE THE PACIFIC  
NORTHWEST MAY START TO SEE A COOLER TREND BY NEXT MONDAY AS A  
PACIFIC FRONT APPROACHES.  
 
RAUSCH  
 
ADDITIONAL 3-7 DAY HAZARD INFORMATION CAN BE FOUND ON THE WPC  
MEDIUM RANGE HAZARDS OUTLOOK CHART AT:  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/THREATS/THREATS.PHP  
 
WPC MEDIUM RANGE 500MB HEIGHTS, SURFACE SYSTEMS, WEATHER GRIDS,  
QUANTITATIVE PRECIPITATION FORECAST, EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OUTLOOK,  
WINTER WEATHER OUTLOOK PROBABILITIES, HEAT INDICES AND KEY  
MESSAGES ARE AT:  
 
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST500_WBG.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST_WBG_CONUS.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/5KM_GRIDS/5KM_GRIDSBODY.HTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/QPF/DAY4-7.SHTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/#PAGE=ERO  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/WWD/PWPF_D47/PWPF_MEDR.PHP?DAY=4  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/HEAT_INDEX.SHTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/#PAGE=OVW  
 

 
 

 
 
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