836  
FXUS02 KWBC 180701  
PMDEPD  
 
EXTENDED FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NWS WEATHER PREDICTION CENTER COLLEGE PARK MD  
300 AM EDT MON SEP 18 2023  
 
VALID 12Z THU SEP 21 2023 - 12Z MON SEP 25 2023  
   
..OVERVIEW
 
 
AN UPPER LEVEL CLOSED LOW DROPPING THROUGH THE WEST THURSDAY AND  
FRIDAY SHOULD EVENTUALLY SHIFT EAST AS ADDITIONAL TROUGHING MOVES  
INTO THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST NEXT WEEKEND. GUIDANCE SUGGESTS THE  
UPPER LOW WILL LINGER ACROSS THE PLAINS FOR AT LEAST A FEW DAYS AS  
UPPER RIDGING BUILDS INTO THE WESTERN ATLANTIC CREATING A BLOCKY  
PATTERN ACROSS THE CONUS THE SECOND HALF OF THE PERIOD. ELSEWHERE,  
A SURFACE LOW FORMING OFF THE FLORIDA COAST LATE THIS WEEK BRINGS  
POTENTIAL FOR HEAVY COASTAL RAINS TO PARTS OF THE SOUTHEAST AS  
MID-ATLANTIC AS IT MOVES SLOWLY UP THE COAST.  
 
   
..GUIDANCE EVALUATION/PREDICTABILITY ASSESSMENT
 
 
OVERALL, THERE'S GOOD AGREEMENT ON THE UPPER PATTERN ACROSS THE  
CONUS, BUT A LOT OF SPREAD IN THE DETAILS, EVEN EARLY IN THE  
PERIOD WHICH HAVE BIG IMPLICATIONS FOR RAINFALL AMOUNTS/QPF. WITH  
THE UPPER LOW INTIALLY OVER THE WEST, A GENERAL MODEL BLEND  
SUFFICED FOR THURSDAY AND FRIDAY, BUT THERE IS DIVERGENCE IN THE  
GUIDANCE AS THE LOW SHIFTS INTO THE PLAINS NEXT WEEKEND REGARDING  
PLACEMENT AND TIMING. THE 12Z/SEP 17 ECMWF SEEMS MOST DISPLACED  
WITH THE LOW AS IT BRINGS IT WELL INTO THE LOWER MISSISSIPPI  
VALLEY, WHILE THE GFS AND CMC (AND ENSEMBLE MEANS) SUGGEST  
SOMETHING DEEPER AND FARTHER NORTH ACROSS THE CENTRAL PLAINS. THE  
CMC IS ALSO MUCH FASTER LIFTING THE SURFACE LOW UP THE SOUTHEAST  
COAST AND THE ENSEMBLE CONSENSUS WOULD SUGGEST SOMETHING SLOWER  
AND CLOSER TO THE GFS/ECMWF. THE UKMET IS ALSO AN OUTLIER EARLY IN  
THE PERIOD AS IT TRIED TO INTIALLY FORM THE SURFACE LOW WELL WEST  
INTO THE EASTERN GULF OF MEXICO. THE NHC IS MONITORING THIS SYSTEM  
FOR POTENTIAL SUB-TROPICAL DEVELOPMENT, BUT REGARDLESS OF  
CHARACTERISTICS, HAS THE POTENTIAL TO BRING SIGNIFICANT RAINFALL  
TO PARTS OF THE SOUTHEAST AND MID-ATLANTIC COAST NEXT WEEKEND.  
 
   
..WEATHER/HAZARDS HIGHLIGHTS
 
 
ANAMOLOUS MOISTURE ASSOCIATE WITH THE UPPER LOW IN THE WEST LATE  
THIS WEEK WILL ALLOW FOR POSSIBLY HEAVY RAINFALL FROM THE NORTHERN  
ROCKIES INTO THE PLAINS. THERE REMAINS A LOT OF SPREAD IN THE  
DETAILS AND PLACEMENT THOUGH, SO ONLY A BROAD MARGINAL RISK  
REMAINS FOR NOW ON THE DAY 4/THURSDAY EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OUTLOOK.  
 
THE INHERITED DAY 4 EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OUTLOOK FEATURED 2 AREAS  
HIGHLIGHTED BY MARGINAL RISKS. THE SOUTHERN ONE SPANS FROM  
NORTHEAST TEXAS TO NORTHERN MISSOURI WHERE MOISTURE ANOMALIES ARE  
GREATEST ALONG A SLOW MOVING/STATIONARY BOUNDARY. WITH THE LATEST  
TREND IN THE GUIDANCE MINOR EXPANSIONS WERE MADE WESTWARD ALONG  
THE TEXAS AND OKLAHOMA BORDER AND EASTWARD ALONG THE MISSOURI AND  
ARKANSAS BORDER. THE NORTHERN RISK AREA SPANS FROM THE EASTERN  
DAKOTAS TO THE MINNESOTA/WISCONSIN BORDER. NO CHANGES WERE MADE TO  
THIS AREA AT THIS TIME. THE AMPLIFYING UPPER LOW OVER THE WEST BY  
MIDWEEK SHOULD LEAD TO PROLONGED PRECIPITATION ACROSS THE  
NORTHERN/CENTRAL INTERMOUNTAIN WEST AND NORTHERN ROCKIES. AS THE  
LOW DEEPENS THE RAINFALL IS EXPECTED TO INCREASE KEEPING THE  
THREAT FOR EXCESSIVE RAINFALL AND LOCAL FLASH FLOODING ELEVATED.  
THE DAY 5 ERO HAS A LARGE MARGINAL RISK SPANNING FROM EASTERN  
NEVADA NORTHWARD TO MONTANA AND EAST TO NORTHERN MINNESOTA. HIGHER  
ELEVATIONS IN THE NORTHERN ROCKIES ARE LIKELY TO SEE SNOW THAT THE  
EXTENT TO WHICH DEPENDS ON THE POSITION AND DEPTH OF THE UPPER  
TROUGH/DEVELOPING LOW. INCREASING POTENTIAL FOR MORE WIDESPREAD  
HEAVIER RAIN DEVELOPS NEXT WEEKEND ACROSS THE NORTHERN/CENTRAL  
PLAINS INTO PARTS OF THE MISSISSIPPI VALLEY AS THE WEST UPPER LOW  
BEGINS TO PUSH INTO THE REGION. MINOR ADJUSTMENTS WERE MADE TO THE  
WESTERN BOUNDS OVER CENTRAL IDAHO AND CENTRAL NEVADA AND BROUGHT  
FURTHER NORTHEAST INTO NORTHERN MINNESOTA.  
 
MEANWHILE, A STALLED FRONTAL BOUNDARY WILL MAINTAIN A FAIRLY WET  
PATTERN OVER THE FLORIDA PENINSULA THROUGH MUCH OF THE WEEK,  
THOUGH CONFIDENCE IN WHERE THAT WOULD FOCUS IS LOW ENOUGH TO NOT  
RAISE AN EXCESSIVE RAIN OUTLOOK AREA IN DAYS 4 OR 5 AT THIS TIME.  
THE POSSIBLE SURFACE LOW OFF THE COAST BY FRIDAY COULD TAP  
TROPICAL MOISTURE, INCREASING THE POTENTIAL FOR HEAVIER RAINS  
ALONG THE ATLANTIC COAST FROM FLORIDA TO THE MID-ATLANTIC. AMOUNTS  
AND EXTENT INLAND OF THE HEAVIER RAINS REMAINS EXTREMELY UNCERTAIN  
AT THIS POINT.  
 
AN AREA OF MAX TEMPERATURES GENERALLY 10-15F ABOVE NORMAL WILL  
SHIFT EAST WITH THE BROAD RIDGE AXIS FROM THE UPPER MIDWEST ON  
WEDNESDAY THROUGH THE GREAT LAKES THURSDAY-SATURDAY MODERATING  
SOME WITH TIME. THE UPPER LOW OVER THE WEST LOOKS TO BRING A  
COOLING TREND ACROSS MUCH OF THE WEST, WITH HIGH TEMPS AROUND 15F  
BELOW NORMAL FORECAST FROM MONTANA THROUGH CALIFORNIA THROUGH AT  
LEAST SATURDAY. MODEST ABOVE NORMAL TEMPERATURES MAY RETURN TO  
PARTS OF TEXAS THIS WEEK, WHILE MUCH OF THE EASTERN U.S. SHOULD BE  
FAIRLY NEAR NORMAL.  
 
CAMPBELL/SANTORELLI  
 
ADDITIONAL 3-7 DAY HAZARD INFORMATION CAN BE FOUND ON THE WPC  
MEDIUM RANGE HAZARDS OUTLOOK CHART AT:  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/THREATS/THREATS.PHP  
 
WPC MEDIUM RANGE 500MB HEIGHTS, SURFACE SYSTEMS, WEATHER GRIDS,  
QUANTITATIVE PRECIPITATION FORECAST, EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OUTLOOK,  
WINTER WEATHER OUTLOOK PROBABILITIES, HEAT INDICES AND KEY  
MESSAGES ARE AT:  
 
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST500_WBG.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST_WBG_CONUS.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/5KM_GRIDS/5KM_GRIDSBODY.HTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/QPF/DAY4-7.SHTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/#PAGE=ERO  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/WWD/PWPF_D47/PWPF_MEDR.PHP?DAY=4  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/HEAT_INDEX.SHTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/#PAGE=OVW  
 

 
 

 
 
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