996  
FXUS02 KWBC 181900  
PMDEPD  
 
EXTENDED FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NWS WEATHER PREDICTION CENTER COLLEGE PARK MD  
259 PM EDT MON SEP 18 2023  
 
VALID 12Z THU SEP 21 2023 - 12Z MON SEP 25 2023  
 
...HEAVY RAINFALL POTENTIAL ACROSS PARTS OF THE PLAINS AS WELL AS  
THE EAST COAST LATE THIS WEEK AND WEEKEND...  
   
..OVERVIEW
 
 
AN UPPER LEVEL CLOSED LOW DROPPING THROUGH THE WEST THURSDAY AND  
FRIDAY SHOULD EVENTUALLY SHIFT EAST AS THE LEADING EDGE OF  
AMPLIFYING/BROADENING NORTHEAST PACIFIC TROUGHING EXTENDS INTO THE  
PACIFIC NORTHWEST AND WESTERN CANADA BY THE WEEKEND NEXT WEEKEND.  
MOST GUIDANCE SUGGESTS THE UPPER LOW WILL SLOW DOWN FOR A TIME  
ACROSS THE CENTRAL U.S. AS UPPER RIDGING BUILDS INTO THE WESTERN  
ATLANTIC AND PARTS OF SOUTHERN CANADA, CREATING A BLOCKY PATTERN  
ACROSS THE CONUS DURING THE SECOND HALF OF THE PERIOD. ELSEWHERE,  
A SURFACE LOW FORMING OFF THE FLORIDA COAST LATE THIS WEEK WILL  
BRING POTENTIAL FOR HEAVY COASTAL RAINS TO PARTS OF THE SOUTHEAST  
AS MID-ATLANTIC AS IT MOVES SLOWLY UP THE COAST. FROM THE WEEKEND  
ONWARD THERE IS INCREASING UNCERTAINTY IN THE TRACK OF THIS  
SURFACE SYSTEM AND THE COVERAGE OF ASSOCIATED RAINFALL,  
CORRESPONDING TO SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCES THAT ARISE FOR UPPER  
PATTERN DETAILS OVER SOUTHERN CANADA AND THE NORTHEASTERN U.S.  
 
   
..GUIDANCE EVALUATION/PREDICTABILITY ASSESSMENT
 
 
THERE'S DECENT AGREEMENT ON THE UPPER PATTERN FORECAST ACROSS THE  
CONUS FROM A MULTI-DAY MEAN PERSPECTIVE, BUT SOME OF THE  
DAY-TO-DAY DETAILS VARY SIGNIFICANTLY AND HAVE BIG IMPLICATIONS  
FOR RAINFALL AMOUNTS/QPF. WITH THE UPPER LOW INITIALLY OVER THE  
WEST, A GENERAL MODEL BLEND SUFFICED FOR THE EARLY PART OF THE  
PERIOD. THE MODELS HAVE BEEN SIGNALING POTENTIAL FOR THE UPPER LOW  
TO WEAKEN/OPEN AROUND THE HIGH PLAINS AS OF SATURDAY, WHILE DETAIL  
ISSUES FOR AN INITIAL SOUTHERN CANADA TROUGH AND TRAILING RIDGE  
THAT BUILDS IN BECOME AN ISSUE BY MID-LATE PERIOD. THE 00Z CMC AND  
NEW 12Z GFS APPEAR TO HAVE LOWER PROBABILITY SOLUTIONS FOR A  
SOUTHERN CANADA UPPER LOW, WITH THE 00Z GFS/ECMWF AND NEW 12Z CMC  
(PLUS AN EXTRAPOLATION OF THE SLIGHTLY SLOWER 12Z UKMET THROUGH  
EARLY DAY 6 SUNDAY) OFFERING THE BEST CLUSTERING FOR THE UPPER LOW  
THAT SHOULD MAINTAIN DEFINITION INTO NEXT MONDAY. THIS GENERALLY  
FITS THE TROUGH POSITION FROM THE ENSEMBLE MEANS WHOSE VARIED  
MEMBERS LEAD TO A MORE OPEN MEAN DEPICTION. SOUTHERN CANADA FLOW  
UNCERTAINTY CONTRIBUTES TO THE DRAMATIC DIVERGENCE OF SOME  
GUIDANCE FOR THE EAST COAST SYSTEM. LATEST CMC RUNS AND THE  
06Z/12Z GFS TRACK THE SURFACE LOW WELL INLAND WHILE ECMWF RUNS AND  
THE 12Z UKMET MAINTAIN A MORE SUPPRESSED WAVE. THUS FAR THE  
ENSEMBLE MEANS HAVE SUPPORTED THE MORE SUPPRESSED/COASTAL  
SCENARIO. CURRENT PREFERENCE IS IN LINE WITH THE ECMWF/00Z  
GFS/ENSEMBLE MEAN SOLUTION THAT WOULD MAINTAIN CONTINUITY WHILE  
AWAITING ANY DRAMATIC SHIFTS IN GUIDANCE CLUSTERING. THE NATIONAL  
HURRICANE CENTER IS MONITORING THIS SYSTEM FOR POTENTIAL  
SUB-TROPICAL DEVELOPMENT, BUT REGARDLESS OF CHARACTERISTICS, THIS  
SURFACE LOW HAS THE POTENTIAL TO BRING SIGNIFICANT RAINFALL TO  
PARTS OF THE SOUTHEAST AND MID-ATLANTIC COAST THIS COMING WEEKEND.  
OVER THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST THE GUIDANCE SPREAD FOR THE LEADING  
EDGE OF NORTHEAST PACIFIC UPPER TROUGHING APPEARS FAIRLY TYPICAL,  
WITH SHORTWAVE DIFFERENCES HAVING LOW PREDICTABILITY FOR THE TIME  
FRAME IN QUESTION. HOWEVER FAIRLY MINOR DIFFERENCES DO HAVE A MORE  
SIGNIFICANT INFLUENCE ON EXACTLY HOW MUCH MOISTURE REACHES THE  
REGION.  
 
   
..WEATHER/HAZARDS HIGHLIGHTS
 
 
ANOMALOUS MOISTURE ASSOCIATED WITH THE UPPER LOW IN THE WEST LATE  
THIS WEEK WILL ALLOW FOR A POTENTIAL OF HEAVY RAINFALL FROM THE  
NORTHERN ROCKIES INTO THE HIGH PLAINS. THERE COULD ALSO BE SOME  
SNOW IN THE HIGHEST ELEVATIONS DEPENDING ON THE DEPTH OF THE UPPER  
LOW. AS THE LOW MOVES EAST INTO THE PLAINS, RAINFALL SHOULD BEGIN  
TO EXPAND IN COVERAGE ACROSS THE CENTRAL AND NORTHERN PLAINS  
THROUGH SATURDAY. THE SET UP IS FAVORABLE FOR HEAVY TO EXCESSIVE  
RAINFALL, GIVEN AMPLE MOISTURE AND INSTABILITY. BASED ON THE  
PATTERN AND LATEST GUIDANCE SIGNALS, THERE APPEAR TO BE TWO AREAS  
FAVORABLE ENOUGH FOR A SLIGHT RISK AREA WITHIN THE BROADER  
MARGINAL RISK AREAS DEPICTED IN THE DAYS 4-5 EXCESSIVE RAINFALL  
OUTLOOKS THAT COVER THE THURSDAY-FRIDAY NIGHT PERIOD. ON DAY 4,  
THERE IS A PROPOSED SLIGHT RISK AREA CENTERED OVER THE CENTRAL  
DAKOTAS IN THE VICINITY OF A STALLED SURFACE FRONT. FOR DAY 5,  
THERE IS SOME CLUSTERING AMONG MODEL/ENSEMBLE GUIDANCE FOR AN AXIS  
OF HEAVY RAINFALL POTENTIAL FROM PARTS OF SOUTHERN  
MONTANA/NORTHERN WYOMING INTO WESTERN SOUTH DAKOTA--JUST NORTH OF  
THE FORECAST UPPER LOW TRACK--WHERE A SLIGHT RISK AREA HAS BEEN  
PROPOSED.  
 
A STALLED FRONTAL BOUNDARY WILL CONTINUE A FAIRLY WET PATTERN OVER  
THE FLORIDA PENINSULA INTO LATE WEEK, THOUGH CONFIDENCE IN  
PLACEMENT AND AMOUNTS OF RAINFALL ARE SUFFICIENTLY LOW TO INCLUDE  
EVEN A MARGINAL RISK AREA ON THE EROS. THE SURFACE LOW OFF THE  
COAST BY FRIDAY COULD TAP TROPICAL MOISTURE, INCREASING THE  
POTENTIAL FOR HEAVY RAINFALL ALONG THE ATLANTIC COAST FROM FLORIDA  
TO THE MID-ATLANTIC. AMOUNTS AND INLAND EXTENT OF THE HEAVIER  
RAINS CONTINUE TO BE EXTREMELY UNCERTAIN AT THIS POINT, BUT A  
MARGINAL RISK AREA SEEMS TO BE A REASONABLE STARTING POINT IN THE  
ERO ALONG THE SOUTHEAST COAST FOR DAY 5 (FRIDAY-FRIDAY NIGHT).  
SLIGHT ADJUSTMENT TO THE AREA IN THIS AFTERNOON'S UPDATE KEEPS THE  
OUTLOOK IN THE MIDDLE OF THE GUIDANCE SPREAD THAT STARTS TO  
BROADEN AT THAT TIME.  
 
THROUGH THE REST OF THE WEEKEND INTO EARLY NEXT WEEK, RAINFALL  
OVER THE CENTRAL U.S. SHOULD CONTINUE GRADUALLY EASTWARD ALONG  
WITH THE UPPER LOW AND SURFACE SYSTEM. SOME ACTIVITY MAY CONTINUE  
TO BE LOCALLY HEAVY. EXPECT ADDITIONAL RAINFALL OVER PARTS OF THE  
MID-ATLANTIC AND NORTHEAST, BUT UNCERTAINTY FOR AMOUNTS/COVERAGE  
CONTINUES TO INCREASE WITH TIME. THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST SHOULD SEE  
GRADUALLY MORE RAINFALL WITH TIME, BUT TO WHAT EXTENT IS STILL A  
QUESTION MARK THAT WILL TAKE ADDITIONAL TIME TO RESOLVE. THE AXIS  
OF MOISTURE MAY BE FAIRLY NARROW, WITH MINOR CHANGES IN POSITION  
BEING THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN MINIMAL TOTALS OR SIGNIFICANTLY MORE.  
 
TEMPERATURES AS MUCH AS 10-20 DEGREES BELOW NORMAL ASSOCIATED WITH  
THE DEEP WESTERN UPPER LOW FROM CALIFORNIA TO MONTANA SHOULD  
MODERATE BY SUNDAY AS THE LOW SHIFTS EAST. ELSEWHERE, TEMPERATURES  
COULD BE MODERATELY ABOVE NORMAL ACROSS THE UPPER MIDWEST/GREAT  
LAKES AND PARTS OF TEXAS THURSDAY AND FRIDAY. BY MONDAY, MUCH OF  
THE COUNTRY SHOULD BE NEAR NORMAL OR WITHIN A FEW DEGREES OF  
NORMAL.  
 
RAUSCH/SANTORELLI  
 
ADDITIONAL 3-7 DAY HAZARD INFORMATION CAN BE FOUND ON THE WPC  
MEDIUM RANGE HAZARDS OUTLOOK CHART AT:  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/THREATS/THREATS.PHP  
 
WPC MEDIUM RANGE 500MB HEIGHTS, SURFACE SYSTEMS, WEATHER GRIDS,  
QUANTITATIVE PRECIPITATION FORECAST, EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OUTLOOK,  
WINTER WEATHER OUTLOOK PROBABILITIES, HEAT INDICES AND KEY  
MESSAGES ARE AT:  
 
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST500_WBG.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST_WBG_CONUS.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/5KM_GRIDS/5KM_GRIDSBODY.HTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/QPF/DAY4-7.SHTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/#PAGE=ERO  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/WWD/PWPF_D47/PWPF_MEDR.PHP?DAY=4  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/HEAT_INDEX.SHTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/#PAGE=OVW  
 

 
 

 
 
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