073  
FXUS02 KWBC 190624  
PMDEPD  
 
EXTENDED FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NWS WEATHER PREDICTION CENTER COLLEGE PARK MD  
224 AM EDT TUE SEP 19 2023  
 
VALID 12Z FRI SEP 22 2023 - 12Z TUE SEP 26 2023  
 
...HEAVY RAINFALL POTENTIAL ACROSS PARTS OF THE PLAINS/UPPER  
MIDWEST AS WELL AS THE EAST COAST LATE THIS WEEK AND WEEKEND...  
   
..OVERVIEW
 
 
A DEEP UPPER LEVEL CLOSED LOW OVER THE WEST ON FRIDAY SHOULD  
EVENTUALLY SHIFT EAST AS THE LEADING EDGE OF AMPLIFYING/BROADENING  
NORTHEAST PACIFIC TROUGHING EXTENDS INTO THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST AND  
WESTERN CANADA BY THE WEEKEND. MOST GUIDANCE SUGGESTS THE UPPER  
LOW WILL SLOW DOWN FOR A TIME ACROSS THE NORTH-CENTRAL U.S. AS  
UPPER RIDGING BUILDS INTO THE WESTERN ATLANTIC AND PARTS OF  
SOUTHERN CANADA, CREATING A BLOCKY PATTERN ACROSS THE CONUS DURING  
THE SECOND HALF OF THE PERIOD. ELSEWHERE, A SURFACE LOW FORMING  
OFF THE FLORIDA COAST LATE THIS WEEK WILL BRING POTENTIAL FOR  
HEAVY COASTAL RAINS TO PARTS OF THE SOUTHEAST AND MID-ATLANTIC AS  
IT MOVES SLOWLY UP THE COAST. FROM THE WEEKEND ONWARD THERE IS  
INCREASING UNCERTAINTY IN THE TRACK OF THIS SURFACE SYSTEM AND THE  
COVERAGE OF ASSOCIATED RAINFALL, CORRESPONDING TO ONGOING  
DIFFERENCES THAT ARISE FOR UPPER PATTERN DETAILS OVER SOUTHERN  
CANADA AND THE NORTHEASTERN U.S.  
 
   
..GUIDANCE EVALUATION/PREDICTABILITY ASSESSMENT
 
 
THERE REMAINS UNCERTAINTY IN THE EVOLUTION OF THE CLOSED LOW OVER  
THE WEST AS IT MOVES INTO THE NORTH-CENTRAL U.S. THIS WEEKEND,  
WITH PLENTY OF DETAIL VARIABILITY WITH BIGGER IMPLICATIONS FOR  
RAINFALL AMOUNTS/QPF. ISSUES ARISE DUE TO AN INITIAL SOUTHERN  
CANADA TROUGH/TRAILING RIDGE, WHERE SOME OF THE GUIDANCE YESTERDAY  
SUGGESTED A SECONDARY CLOSED LOW TO FORM OUT OF THIS. THE 18Z/SEP  
18 GFS WAS THE GREATEST OUTLIER SUGGESTING THE TWO LOWS ATTEMPT TO  
PHASE, BUT THE LATEST 00Z RUN THIS MORNING (AVAILABLE AFTER  
FORECAST GENERATION TIME) PULLED BACK ON THIS. THERE IS A LITTLE  
BIT BETTER CONSENSUS NOW THAT THE WESTERN LOW SHOULD REMAIN MOSTLY  
IN TACT AS IT MOVES EAST, WEAKENING AND POSSIBLY OPENING INTO MORE  
OF A WAVE LATER IN THE PERIOD. STILL, THERE REMAINS SOME SPREAD IN  
EXACT PLACEMENT OF THIS LOW AS IT MEANDERS ACROSS THE UPPER  
MIDWEST REGION SUNDAY-TUESDAY AND ANY POSSIBLE INTERACTION WITH  
THE EAST COAST LOW.  
 
THIS SOUTHERN CANADA FLOW UNCERTAINTY ALSO CONTRIBUTES TO DRAMATIC  
DIVERGENCE OF SOME GUIDANCE FOR THE SURFACE LOW ALONG THE EAST  
COAST AND WHETHER IT EVENTUALLY GETS PULLED INLAND OR STAYS NEAR  
THE COAST. LATEST GFS RUNS REMAIN ON THE FASTER SIDE, THOUGH THE  
NEW 00Z RUN DOESN'T PULL IT AS FAR WEST AS PREVIOUS RUNS. CMC RUNS  
ARE ALSO FAST/FARTHER INLAND, WHILE THE ECMWF AND UKMET (WITH  
SUPPORT FROM THE ENSEMBLE MEANS) SUGGEST A MUCH SLOWER PROGRESSION  
NORTH ALONG THE COAST. CURRENT PREFERENCE REMAINS IN LINE WITH THE  
ECMWF AND ENSEMBLE MEANS WHICH MAINTAINS CONTINUITY FOR NOW  
AWAITING ANY DRAMATIC SHIFTS IN GUIDANCE CLUSTERING. THE NATIONAL  
HURRICANE CENTER IS MONITORING THIS SYSTEM FOR POTENTIAL  
SUB-TROPICAL DEVELOPMENT, BUT REGARDLESS OF CLASSIFICATION, THIS  
SURFACE LOW HAS THE POTENTIAL TO BRING SIGNIFICANT RAINFALL TO  
PARTS OF THE SOUTHEAST AND MID-ATLANTIC COAST THIS COMING WEEKEND.  
 
OVER THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST THE GUIDANCE SPREAD FOR THE LEADING  
EDGE OF NORTHEAST PACIFIC UPPER TROUGHING APPEARS FAIRLY TYPICAL,  
WITH SHORTWAVE DIFFERENCES HAVING LOW PREDICTABILITY FOR THE TIME  
FRAME IN QUESTION. HOWEVER FAIRLY MINOR DIFFERENCES DO HAVE A MORE  
SIGNIFICANT INFLUENCE ON EXACTLY HOW MUCH MOISTURE REACHES THE  
REGION LATE IN THE PERIOD.  
 
THE WPC BLEND FOR TONIGHT LEANED TOWARDS THE BETTER CLUSTERED  
ECMWF/CMC/UKMET THE FIRST HALF OF THE PERIOD WITH THE WESTERN  
UPPER LOW, TRENDING QUICKLY TOWARDS THE ENSEMBLE MEANS AND ECMWF  
THE SECOND HALF OF THE PERIOD AS SPREAD INCREASES ACROSS BOTH THE  
NORTH-CENTRAL U.S. AND THE EAST COAST. OVERALL, THIS MAINTAINED  
GOOD CONTINUITY WITH THE PREVIOUS WPC FORECAST.  
 
   
..WEATHER/HAZARDS HIGHLIGHTS
 
 
ANOMALOUS MOISTURE ASSOCIATED WITH THE UPPER LOW IN THE WEST LATE  
THIS WEEK WILL ALLOW FOR THE POTENTIAL FOR HEAVY RAINFALL FROM THE  
NORTHERN ROCKIES INTO THE HIGH PLAINS. THERE COULD ALSO BE SOME  
SNOW IN THE HIGHEST ELEVATIONS DEPENDING ON THE DEPTH OF THE UPPER  
LOW. AS THE LOW MOVES EAST INTO THE PLAINS, RAINFALL SHOULD BEGIN  
TO EXPAND IN COVERAGE ACROSS THE CENTRAL AND NORTHERN PLAINS INTO  
THE MISSISSIPPI VALLEY THROUGH SATURDAY. THE SET UP IS FAVORABLE  
FOR HEAVY TO EXCESSIVE RAINFALL, GIVEN AMPLE MOISTURE AND  
INSTABILITY. FOR THE DAY 4/FRIDAY EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OUTLOOK, A  
SLIGHT RISK REMAINS ACROSS PARTS OF THE HIGH PLAINS FROM SOUTHEAST  
MONTANA/NORTHEAST WYOMING INTO WESTERN SOUTH DAKOTA, WITH A BROAD  
MARGINAL RISK SURROUNDING THIS FROM THE NORTHERN ROCKIES INTO THE  
NORTH-CENTRAL PLAINS. ON DAY 5, INTRODUCED A SLIGHT RISK FROM  
SOUTHERN MINNESOTA TO NORTHERN MISSOURI WHERE QPF CONSENSUS WAS  
GREATEST FOR POTENTIALLY HAZARDOUS/EXCESSIVE RAINS, WITH A BROAD  
MARGINAL SURROUNDING AND BACK INTO THE NORTHERN PLAINS.  
 
THE SURFACE LOW DEVELOPING OFF THE NORTHEAST FLORIDA COAST BY  
FRIDAY SHOULD TAP TROPICAL MOISTURE, WITH INCREASING POTENTIAL FOR  
HEAVY RAINFALL ALONG AT LEAST THE ATLANTIC COAST FROM FLORIDA TO  
SOUTHERN NEW ENGLAND. AMOUNTS AND INLAND EXTENT OF THE HEAVIER  
RAINS CONTINUE TO BE EXTREMELY UNCERTAIN AT THIS POINT, SO JUST A  
MARGINAL RISK WAS DRAWN FOR THE DAYS 4 AND 5 EROS. EXTENSION OF  
THIS FARTHER INLAND AND AN UPGRADE TO A SLIGHT WITH TIME ARE  
POSSIBLE, BUT HIGHLY DEPENDENT ON HOW CLOSE TO THE COAST THE LOW  
EVENTUALLY TRACKS AND HOW FAR INLAND THE QPF EXTENDS (WHICH SOME  
OF THE GUIDANCE IS SUGGESTING).  
 
THROUGH THE REST OF THE WEEKEND INTO EARLY NEXT WEEK, RAINFALL  
OVER THE CENTRAL U.S. SHOULD CONTINUE GRADUALLY EASTWARD ALONG  
WITH THE UPPER LOW AND SURFACE SYSTEM WITH SOME ACTIVITY LOCALLY  
HEAVY. THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST SHOULD SEE GRADUALLY MORE RAINFALL  
WITH TIME, BUT TO WHAT EXTENT IS STILL A QUESTION MARK THAT WILL  
TAKE ADDITIONAL TIME TO RESOLVE. THE AXIS OF MOISTURE MAY BE  
FAIRLY NARROW, WITH MINOR CHANGES IN POSITION BEING THE DIFFERENCE  
BETWEEN MINIMAL TOTALS OR SIGNIFICANTLY MORE.  
 
TEMPERATURES AS MUCH AS 10-20 DEGREES BELOW NORMAL ASSOCIATED WITH  
THE DEEP WESTERN UPPER LOW FROM CALIFORNIA TO MONTANA SHOULD  
MODERATE BY SUNDAY AS THE LOW SHIFTS EAST. ELSEWHERE, TEMPERATURES  
COULD BE MODERATELY ABOVE NORMAL ACROSS THE UPPER MIDWEST/GREAT  
LAKES AND PARTS OF THE SOUTHERN PLAINS FRIDAY INTO SATURDAY. BY  
EARLY NEXT WEEK THOUGH, MUCH OF THE COUNTRY SHOULD BE NEAR NORMAL  
OR WITHIN A FEW DEGREES OF NORMAL.  
 
SANTORELLI/RAUSCH  
 
ADDITIONAL 3-7 DAY HAZARD INFORMATION CAN BE FOUND ON THE WPC  
MEDIUM RANGE HAZARDS OUTLOOK CHART AT:  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/THREATS/THREATS.PHP  
 
WPC MEDIUM RANGE 500MB HEIGHTS, SURFACE SYSTEMS, WEATHER GRIDS,  
QUANTITATIVE PRECIPITATION FORECAST, EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OUTLOOK,  
WINTER WEATHER OUTLOOK PROBABILITIES, HEAT INDICES AND KEY  
MESSAGES ARE AT:  
 
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST500_WBG.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST_WBG_CONUS.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/5KM_GRIDS/5KM_GRIDSBODY.HTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/QPF/DAY4-7.SHTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/#PAGE=ERO  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/WWD/PWPF_D47/PWPF_MEDR.PHP?DAY=4  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/HEAT_INDEX.SHTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/#PAGE=OVW  
 

 
 

 
 
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