865  
FXUS02 KWBC 290700  
PMDEPD  
 
EXTENDED FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NWS WEATHER PREDICTION CENTER COLLEGE PARK MD  
300 AM EDT FRI SEP 29 2023  
 
VALID 12Z MON OCT 02 2023 - 12Z FRI OCT 06 2023  
   
..OVERVIEW
 
 
AN AMPLIFIED PATTERN IS IN STORE NEXT WEEK, AS AN UPPER TROUGH  
TRACKS ACROSS THE INTERIOR WEST EAST INTO THE CENTRAL AND  
EAST-CENTRAL U.S., WITH AMPLIFIED UPPER RIDGES ON EITHER SIDE.  
THIS WILL LEAD TO COOLER THAN NORMAL TEMPERATURES IN THE WEST AND  
WARMER THAN NORMAL TEMPERATURES IN THE EASTERN HALF OF THE U.S.  
THAT MAY MODERATE CLOSER TO NORMAL AS THE WEEK PROGRESSES. MOIST  
AND UNSTABLE INFLOW JUST AHEAD OF THE TROUGH AND AN ASSOCIATED  
COLD FRONT SHOULD LEAD TO AN EMERGING CONVECTIVE RAINFALL PATTERN  
FOR MUCH OF THE PLAINS MONDAY-TUESDAY AND LIKELY FOCUSED IN THE  
SOUTHERN PLAINS BY WEDNESDAY.  
 
   
..GUIDANCE EVALUATION/PREDICTABILITY ASSESSMENT
 
 
MODEL DIFFERENCES IN THE FIRST HALF OF THE WEEK MAINLY HAVE TO DO  
WITH THE TIMING OF THE TROUGH SHIFTING EASTWARD. THE 12Z UKMET WAS  
THE MAIN INITIAL OUTLIER WITH A SLOWER TROUGH THAN THE BETTER  
CLUSTERED GFS/ECMWF/CMC RUNS, SO LEANED TOWARD THE LATTER GROUP  
FOR THE EARLY PART OF THE FORECAST. BEGINNING WEDNESDAY AND  
ESPECIALLY BY THURSDAY-FRIDAY, MODELS DIVERGE FURTHER WITH THE  
TIMING AND ALSO THE DEPTH OF THE TROUGH. THIS IS AT LEAST IN PART  
DUE TO THE POTENTIAL FOR ADDITIONAL ENERGY TO DIVE INTO THE  
NORTHWESTERN SIDE OF THE TROUGH, WHICH THE ECMWF AND CMC RUNS HAVE  
BEEN PERSISTENTLY SHOWING. ON THE OTHER HAND, GFS RUNS SHOW ANY  
ENERGY THERE IN WEST-CENTRAL CANADA TO BE WEAKER AND TRACK MORE  
EASTWARD RATHER THAN DROPPING SOUTHEAST. THIS KEEPS A MORE  
AMPLIFIED RIDGE TO THE WEST OF THE TROUGH AND ALLOWS FOR THE  
TROUGH TO STAY DEEP AS IT TRACKS EAST. THE NEW 00Z GFS EVEN TENDS  
TO BULGE THE BASE OF THE TROUGH IN RESPONSE TO THE NORTHERN SIDE  
OF THE RIDGE AND SHOW THE TROUGH'S AXIS AS SLIGHTLY POSITIVELY  
TILTED EVEN INTO LATE NEXT WEEK, WHILE OTHER GUIDANCE IS NEUTRAL  
TO NEGATIVELY TILTED BY THAT POINT. THE VARIABILITY WITH THE  
SHORTWAVE MEANS THE PATTERN IS OUT OF PHASE ACROSS THE NORTHERN  
PLAINS AMONG DETERMINISTIC MODELS AND VARIOUS ENSEMBLE MEMBERS BY  
THE LATTER HALF OF NEXT WEEK. WITH THIS POSSIBLE/QUESTIONABLE  
SHORTWAVE ENERGY LOOKING TO EMERGE FROM THE ARCTIC, THIS WILL  
LIKELY REMAIN UNCERTAIN IN FUTURE MODEL CYCLES. ADDITIONALLY,  
WHILE NOT THE MAJORITY, A HANDFUL OF RUNS FROM MULTIPLE MODELS  
HANG ENERGY BACK INTO THE SOUTHWEST FROM THE TROUGH, PROVIDING  
FURTHER UNCERTAINTY. THE 12Z CMC DID THIS AND THE EC ENSEMBLE MEAN  
HINTS AT IT AS WELL. GIVEN ALL THE UNCERTAINTY IN THE DETAILS OF  
THE PATTERN, THE INITIALLY MAINLY DETERMINISTIC MODEL BLEND  
TRANSITIONED TO FAVOR MORE ENSEMBLE MEANS WITH INCREASING LEAD  
TIME, TO JUST OVER HALF BY DAY 6 AND 70 PERCENT BY DAY 7 IN THE  
MASS FIELDS.  
 
   
..WEATHER/HAZARDS HIGHLIGHTS
 
 
ON MONDAY THERE MAY BE SOME LINGERING SNOW IN HIGHER ELEVATIONS OF  
THE WEST WITH THE UPPER TROUGH AXIS OVERHEAD. MEANWHILE FARTHER  
SOUTH, MOISTURE AND INSTABILITY LOOK TO POOL IN THE SOUTHERN HIGH  
PLAINS JUST AHEAD OF THE COLD FRONT. THE RIGHT ENTRANCE REGION OF  
THE JET WILL PROVIDE AMPLE LIFT WHICH COMBINED WITH THE UNSTABLE  
CONDITIONS COULD PRODUCE HIGH RAIN RATES, POSSIBLY OVERCOMING THE  
ONGOING DRY CONDITIONS THERE TO PRODUCE SOME LOCALIZED FLASH  
FLOODING. THUS A MARGINAL RISK HAS BEEN INTRODUCED FOR MONDAY FOR  
THAT REGION. RAINFALL CHANCES ARE LIKELY TO INCREASE IN THE  
NORTH-CENTRAL U.S. AS WELL, BUT UNCERTAINTY IN THE AMOUNTS AND  
PLACEMENT OF ENHANCED CONVECTION PRECLUDES INTRODUCING ANY  
EXCESSIVE RAINFALL RISK AT THIS POINT. AS THE TROUGH AND COLD  
FRONT EMERGE INTO THE PLAINS ON TUESDAY, RAIN AND THUNDERSTORMS  
SHOULD BECOME WIDESPREAD IN THE CENTRAL U.S., WITH MODEL GUIDANCE  
SHOWING EMBEDDED HEAVIER AMOUNTS THROUGH ALL THE PLAINS STATES  
INTO THE UPPER MIDWEST, BUT WITH LITTLE AGREEMENT IN PLACEMENT AT  
THIS TIME. A LARGE MARGINAL RISK IS IN PLACE FOR TUESDAY AS A  
STARTING POINT, BUT IT IS LIKELY THAT ONE OR MORE EMBEDDED SLIGHT  
RISKS ARE INTRODUCED IN FUTURE FORECASTS IF MODELS START TO  
CONVERGE ON LOCATIONS OF HEAVY AMOUNTS. THEN BY WEDNESDAY THE  
HEAVIEST CONVECTION LOOKS TO FOCUS ACROSS THE SOUTHERN PLAINS,  
WITH SOME RAIN AMOUNTS OF OVER AN INCH ALREADY WIDESPREAD IN THE  
DETERMINISTIC FORECAST. SOME RAIN AND STORMS SHOULD SPREAD INTO  
THE OHIO/TENNESSEE VALLEYS BY THURSDAY OR SO, BUT WITH UNCERTAINTY  
IN TIMING.  
 
ELSEWHERE, SOME LINGERING SHOWERS AND STORMS ARE POSSIBLE OVER  
SOUTHERN FLORIDA ESPECIALLY EARLY NEXT WEEK AS A FRONT PUSHES  
THROUGH, BUT WITH LIGHTER AMOUNTS THAN IN THE SHORT RANGE. THE  
PACIFIC NORTHWEST MAY SEE A ROUND OF LIGHT TO MODERATE  
PRECIPITATION MONDAY-TUESDAY BEFORE LIKELY DRYING OUT BY MIDWEEK.  
 
IN TERMS OF TEMPERATURES, THE EARLY WEEK TROUGH ATOP THE WEST WILL  
LEAD TO COOLER TEMPERATURES THAN AVERAGE, WITH LOWS 5-10F BELOW  
NORMAL BUT HIGHS AROUND 10-20F BELOW AVERAGE. THIS PUTS HIGH  
TEMPERATURES GENERALLY IN THE 80S FOR THE SOUTHWEST AND THE 50S  
AND 60S FOR THE GREAT BASIN. MEANWHILE, TEMPERATURES FROM THE  
PLAINS EASTWARD WILL BE NEAR TO ABOVE AVERAGE ON MONDAY, WITH THE  
LARGEST ANOMALIES OF 15-20F ABOVE NORMAL (FOR HIGHS, EVEN MORE  
ANOMALOUS FOR LOWS) FOCUSED ON THE UPPER MIDWEST TO GREAT LAKES  
AND THE INTERIOR NORTHEAST, WITH HIGHS IN THE UPPER 70S TO LOW  
80S. THE PLAINS SHOULD MODERATE TO NEAR NORMAL TO PERHAPS A FEW  
DEGREES BELOW NORMAL TEMPERATURES AS THE WEEK PROGRESSES, WITH THE  
AREA OF ABOVE NORMAL TEMPERATURES BECOMING MORE LIMITED TO THE  
NORTHEAST BY LATER IN THE WEEK AS THE COLD FRONT OVERTAKES THE  
EAST-CENTRAL CONUS.  
 
TATE  
 
ADDITIONAL 3-7 DAY HAZARD INFORMATION CAN BE FOUND ON THE WPC  
MEDIUM RANGE HAZARDS OUTLOOK CHART AT:  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/THREATS/THREATS.PHP  
 
WPC MEDIUM RANGE 500MB HEIGHTS, SURFACE SYSTEMS, WEATHER GRIDS,  
QUANTITATIVE PRECIPITATION FORECAST, EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OUTLOOK,  
WINTER WEATHER OUTLOOK PROBABILITIES, HEAT INDICES AND KEY  
MESSAGES ARE AT:  
 
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST500_WBG.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST_WBG_CONUS.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/5KM_GRIDS/5KM_GRIDSBODY.HTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/QPF/DAY4-7.SHTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/#PAGE=ERO  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/WWD/PWPF_D47/PWPF_MEDR.PHP?DAY=4  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/HEAT_INDEX.SHTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/#PAGE=OVW  
 

 
 

 
 
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