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FXUS02 KWBC 291859  
PMDEPD  
 
EXTENDED FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NWS WEATHER PREDICTION CENTER COLLEGE PARK MD  
259 PM EDT FRI SEP 29 2023  
 
VALID 12Z MON OCT 02 2023 - 12Z FRI OCT 06 2023  
   
..OVERVIEW
 
 
AN AMPLIFIED PATTERN IS IN STORE NEXT WEEK, AS AN UPPER TROUGH  
TRACKS ACROSS THE INTERIOR WEST AND THEN INTO THE PLAINS AND  
EAST-CENTRAL U.S., WITH AMPLIFIED UPPER RIDGES ON EITHER SIDE. THE  
UPPER TROUGH WILL SUPPORT COOLER THAN NORMAL TEMPERATURES IN THE  
WEST, WHILE WARMER THAN NORMAL TEMPERATURES OVER MOST OF THE  
CENTRAL/EASTERN U.S. EARLY IN THE WEEK SHOULD MODERATE CLOSER TO  
NORMAL AS THE WEEK PROGRESSES. MOIST AND UNSTABLE INFLOW JUST  
AHEAD OF THE TROUGH AND AN ASSOCIATED WAVY COLD FRONT WILL LIKELY  
PRODUCE AN EMERGING CONVECTIVE RAINFALL PATTERN FOR MUCH OF THE  
PLAINS MONDAY-TUESDAY AND LIKELY FOCUSED IN THE SOUTHERN PLAINS BY  
WEDNESDAY. EXPECT LIGHTER RAINFALL TO PUSH INTO THE EASTERN U.S.  
LATER IN THE WEEK. MEANWHILE A REFLECTION OF THE UPPER LOW/TROUGH  
NOW CROSSING THE THE EAST COAST MAY LINGER OVER THE WESTERN  
ATLANTIC FOR MOST OF THE WEEK BUT MOST OF THE ASSOCIATED RAINFALL  
SHOULD REMAIN OFFSHORE.  
 
   
..GUIDANCE EVALUATION/PREDICTABILITY ASSESSMENT
 
 
DURING THE FIRST TWO OR THREE DAYS OF THE PERIOD, THE PRIMARY  
FORECAST ISSUES INVOLVE DETAILS FOR SHORTWAVE ENERGY WITHIN THE  
OVERALL WESTERN INTO CENTRAL U.S. UPPER TROUGH ALONG WITH NORTHERN  
PLAINS FRONTAL WAVE DEVELOPMENT AS THE CORE OF THE INITIAL WESTERN  
TROUGH EJECTS NORTHEASTWARD. MOST OF THE GUIDANCE DIFFERENCES FOR  
SHORTWAVE SPECIFICS AND SURFACE WAVE DEVELOPMENT APPEAR FAIRLY  
TYPICAL FOR FORECASTS 3-5 DAYS OUT IN TIME, FAVORING A  
BLENDED/COMPROMISE APPROACH AMONG THE LATEST OPERATIONAL RUNS.  
HOWEVER THE 00Z UKMET OFFERED ONE OF THE LOWER CONFIDENCE  
SOLUTIONS IN DEPICTING MORE SOUTHWESTWARD ELONGATION OF THE UPPER  
TROUGH LATE IN ITS RUN.  
 
BY LATE NEXT WEEK, INDIVIDUAL MODELS AND ENSEMBLE MEMBERS  
INCREASINGLY DIVERGE WITHIN A RECENT 2-3 DAY TREND OF THE  
GEFS/ECENS MEANS TOWARD A STRONGER AND EASTWARD PACIFIC/WEST COAST  
UPPER RIDGE AND MORE AMPLIFIED EAST-CENTRAL NORTH AMERICAN TROUGH.  
THERE HAS BEEN MORE CONSISTENCY FOR WESTERN ATLANTIC INTO CANADIAN  
MARITIMES MEAN RIDGING. THE MOST BASIC DIFFERENCE STARTS WITH  
RELATIVE STRENGTH OF THE NORTHERN PART OF THE PACIFIC RIDGE VERSUS  
GULF OF ALASKA INTO WESTERN CANADA SHORTWAVE ENERGY, WITH SOME  
INFLUENCE JUST UPSTREAM AS WELL. LATEST GFS RUNS AND THE 12Z UKMET  
FAVOR A STRONGER/EASTERN UPPER RIDGE, MAINTAINING MORE AMPLITUDE  
OF THE CENTRAL U.S. UPPER TROUGH. THE GEFS MEAN TILTS IN THAT  
DIRECTION. THE ECMWF/CMC ARE STRONGER WITH THE SHORTWAVE ENERGY,  
YIELDING A FARTHER WEST RIDGE AXIS THAT ALLOWS FOR THIS ENERGY TO  
FLOW INTO THE MEAN TROUGH AND EJECT LEADING ENERGY MORE  
QUICKLY--ULTIMATELY RESULTING IN A BROADER OVERALL TROUGH BY DAY 7  
FRIDAY. NOT SURPRISINGLY THE ECENS MEAN HINTS AT THAT IDEA.  
TELECONNECTIONS RELATIVE TO POSITIVE HEIGHT ANOMALY CENTERS NEAR  
THE BRITISH COLUMBIA COAST AND CANADIAN MARITIMES IN THE D+8  
MULTI-DAY MEAN CHARTS FAVOR FAIRLY AMPLIFIED EAST-CENTRAL NORTH  
AMERICAN TROUGHING BY THE END OF THE PERIOD OR JUST BEYOND, WHICH  
THE ECMWF/GFS AND THEIR ENSEMBLE MEANS SHOW IN PRINCIPLE.  
CMC/CMCENS RUNS APPEAR TO BE LAGGING THE TRENDS AND TELECONNECTION  
RELATIONS TOWARD THE MAJORITY SCENARIO. HOWEVER THIS DOES NOT  
PROVIDE A LOT OF INSIGHT AS TO WHETHER THE GFS/GEFS OR ECMWF/ECENS  
DETAILS WOULD BE MORE LIKELY ON A DAY-TO-DAY BASIS, SO PREFERENCE  
IS TO TRANSITION THE EARLY-MID WEEK MODEL BLEND TOWARD GREATER  
WEIGHT OF THE GEFS/ECENS MEANS RELATIVE TO THE GFS/ECMWF (GIVEN  
DECREASING CONFIDENCE IN EXACT OPERATIONAL MODEL SPECIFICS) ALONG  
WITH EQUAL CONSIDERATION OF THE GFS/GEFS VS ECMWF/ECENS CLUSTERS.  
 
   
..WEATHER/HAZARDS HIGHLIGHTS
 
 
THE CENTRAL U.S. WILL BE THE PRIMARY FOCUS FOR HEAVY  
RAINFALL/FLASH FLOOD POTENTIAL DURING THE MONDAY-TUESDAY NIGHT  
PERIOD COVERED BY THE DAYS 4-5 EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OUTLOOKS. BY DAY  
4, MOISTURE AND INSTABILITY LOOK TO POOL IN THE SOUTHERN HIGH  
PLAINS JUST AHEAD OF THE COLD FRONT SUPPORTED BY THE WESTERN U.S.  
UPPER TROUGH. THE RIGHT ENTRANCE REGION OF THE UPPER JET WILL  
PROVIDE AMPLE LIFT WHICH COMBINED WITH THE UNSTABLE CONDITIONS  
COULD PRODUCE HIGH RAIN RATES, POSSIBLY OVERCOMING THE ONGOING DRY  
CONDITIONS THERE TO PRODUCE SOME LOCALIZED FLASH FLOODING. THUS A  
MARGINAL RISK IS DEPICTED FOR MONDAY ACROSS THAT REGION, WITH  
GUIDANCE SUPPORTING MINIMAL ADJUSTMENT FROM PRIOR ISSUANCE.  
RAINFALL CHANCES ARE LIKELY TO INCREASE IN THE NORTH-CENTRAL U.S.  
AS WELL, BUT UNCERTAINTY IN THE AMOUNTS AND PLACEMENT OF ENHANCED  
CONVECTION STILL PRECLUDES INTRODUCING ANY EXCESSIVE RAINFALL RISK  
AT THIS POINT. AS THE TROUGH AND COLD FRONT EMERGE INTO THE PLAINS  
ON TUESDAY, RAIN AND THUNDERSTORMS SHOULD BECOME WIDESPREAD IN THE  
CENTRAL U.S., WITH MODEL GUIDANCE SHOWING EMBEDDED HEAVIER AMOUNTS  
THROUGH ALL THE PLAINS STATES INTO THE UPPER MIDWEST, BUT WITH  
LITTLE AGREEMENT IN PLACEMENT AT THIS TIME. A LARGE MARGINAL RISK  
AREA REMAINS IN PLACE FOR TUESDAY AS A STARTING POINT. THE LATEST  
CYCLE OF GUIDANCE IS STARTING TO FOCUS A LITTLE MORE ON A  
POTENTIAL AXIS OF HEAVIER TOTALS IN THE NORTHERN PLAINS AS  
EJECTING ENERGY ALOFT SUPPORTS A NORTHERN TIER FRONTAL WAVE.  
HOWEVER THERE IS STILL SOME SPREAD FOR AMOUNTS/LOCATION, AND HOW  
THIS ACTIVITY MAY OVERLAP AREAS OF WETTER OR DRIER SOIL  
CONDITIONS. THUS PREFER TO WAIT AT LEAST ANOTHER CYCLE BEFORE  
INTRODUCING ANY EMBEDDED SLIGHT RISK AREA.  
 
PLAINS CONVECTION SHOULD FOCUS MORE OVER SOUTHERN PARTS OF THE  
REGION BY WEDNESDAY, WITH SOME RAIN AMOUNTS OF OVER AN INCH  
ALREADY WIDESPREAD IN THE DETERMINISTIC FORECAST. SOME RAIN AND  
STORMS SHOULD SPREAD INTO THE OHIO/TENNESSEE VALLEYS LATER IN THE  
WEEK, WITH GREATER UNCERTAINTY IN TIMING AND AMOUNTS. IN GENERAL  
THE RAINFALL TOTALS OVER THE EASTERN U.S. SHOULD BE LOWER THAN  
OVER THE PLAINS. MEANWHILE, SOME LINGERING SHOWERS AND STORMS ARE  
POSSIBLE OVER SOUTHERN FLORIDA ESPECIALLY EARLY NEXT WEEK AS A  
FRONT PUSHES THROUGH, BUT WITH LIGHTER AMOUNTS THAN IN THE SHORT  
RANGE. THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST MAY SEE A ROUND OF LIGHT TO MODERATE  
PRECIPITATION MONDAY-TUESDAY BEFORE LIKELY DRYING OUT BY MIDWEEK.  
SOME SNOW MAY LINGER INTO EARLY NEXT WEEK OVER HIGHER ELEVATIONS  
OF THE WEST IN ASSOCIATION WITH THE UPPER TROUGH CROSSING THE  
REGION.  
 
IN TERMS OF TEMPERATURES, THE EARLY WEEK TROUGH ATOP THE WEST WILL  
LEAD TO COOLER TEMPERATURES THAN AVERAGE, WITH LOWS 5-10F BELOW  
NORMAL BUT HIGHS AROUND 10-20F BELOW AVERAGE. THIS PUTS HIGH  
TEMPERATURES GENERALLY IN THE 80S FOR THE SOUTHWEST AND THE 50S  
AND 60S FOR THE GREAT BASIN. MEANWHILE, TEMPERATURES FROM THE  
PLAINS EASTWARD WILL BE NEAR TO ABOVE AVERAGE ON MONDAY, WITH THE  
LARGEST ANOMALIES OF 15-20F ABOVE NORMAL (FOR HIGHS, EVEN MORE  
ANOMALOUS FOR LOWS) FOCUSED ON THE UPPER MIDWEST TO GREAT LAKES  
AND THE INTERIOR NORTHEAST, WITH HIGHS IN THE UPPER 70S TO LOW  
80S. THE PLAINS SHOULD MODERATE TO NEAR NORMAL OR PERHAPS A FEW  
DEGREES BELOW NORMAL TEMPERATURES AS THE WEEK PROGRESSES, WITH THE  
AREA OF ABOVE NORMAL TEMPERATURES BECOMING MORE LIMITED TO THE  
NORTHEAST BY LATER IN THE WEEK AS THE COLD FRONT REACHES THE  
EAST-CENTRAL CONUS.  
 
RAUSCH/TATE  
 
ADDITIONAL 3-7 DAY HAZARD INFORMATION CAN BE FOUND ON THE WPC  
MEDIUM RANGE HAZARDS OUTLOOK CHART AT:  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/THREATS/THREATS.PHP  
 
WPC MEDIUM RANGE 500MB HEIGHTS, SURFACE SYSTEMS, WEATHER GRIDS,  
QUANTITATIVE PRECIPITATION FORECAST, EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OUTLOOK,  
WINTER WEATHER OUTLOOK PROBABILITIES, HEAT INDICES AND KEY  
MESSAGES ARE AT:  
 
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST500_WBG.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST_WBG_CONUS.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/5KM_GRIDS/5KM_GRIDSBODY.HTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/QPF/DAY4-7.SHTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/#PAGE=ERO  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/WWD/PWPF_D47/PWPF_MEDR.PHP?DAY=4  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/HEAT_INDEX.SHTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/#PAGE=OVW  
 

 
 

 
 
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