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EXTENDED FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NWS WEATHER PREDICTION CENTER COLLEGE PARK MD  
259 PM EDT SAT SEP 30 2023  
 
VALID 12Z TUE OCT 03 2023 - 12Z SAT OCT 07 2023  
 
...HEAVY RAINFALL POTENTIAL OVER PARTS OF THE CENTRAL U.S. NEXT  
WEEK...  
 
   
..OVERVIEW
 
 
LATEST GUIDANCE CONTINUES TO SHOW AN AMPLIFIED UPPER PATTERN NEXT  
WEEK. A MEAN TROUGH OVER THE ROCKIES ON TUESDAY SHOULD PROGRESS  
INTO THE EAST-CENTRAL U.S. BY NEXT SATURDAY, WHILE AN EASTERN  
PACIFIC RIDGE DRIFTS TOWARD THE WEST COAST AND INITIAL EASTERN  
U.S. RIDGE CONTINUES ONWARD INTO THE ATLANTIC. MOIST AND UNSTABLE  
INFLOW JUST AHEAD OF THE UPPER TROUGH AND AN ASSOCIATED WAVY COLD  
FRONT WILL LIKELY PRODUCE AN EMERGING CONVECTIVE PATTERN FOR MUCH  
OF THE PLAINS TUESDAY AND FOCUSED IN THE SOUTHERN PLAINS BY  
WEDNESDAY, WITH SOME OF THIS RAINFALL LIKELY TO BE HEAVY. EXPECT  
MOSTLY LIGHTER RAINFALL TO PUSH INTO THE EASTERN U.S. LATER IN THE  
WEEK. COOLER THAN NORMAL EARLY-MID WEEK TEMPERATURES OVER THE WEST  
UNDER THE UPPER TROUGH WILL LIKELY MODERATE AND PUSH INTO THE  
CENTRAL U.S. AS THE WEEK PROGRESSES, THOUGH WITH POTENTIAL FOR A  
REINFORCING COLD FRONT TO BRING COOLER AIR EAST OF THE ROCKIES  
TOWARD THE END OF THE WEEK. WARMER THAN NORMAL TEMPERATURES ACROSS  
THE NORTHEASTERN QUADRANT OF THE CONUS WILL BECOME MORE LIMITED IN  
AREA BY LATE WEEK WHILE THE UPPER RIDGE NEARING THE WEST COAST  
WILL BRING WARMER TEMPERATURES TO THAT REGION.  
 
   
..GUIDANCE EVALUATION/PREDICTABILITY ASSESSMENT
 
 
OPERATIONAL MODELS AND ENSEMBLE MEANS AGREE ON THE GENERAL IDEA OF  
GRADUAL EASTWARD PROGRESSION OF THE AMPLIFIED RIDGE-TROUGH-RIDGE  
CONFIGURATION BUT THERE ARE NOTABLE DETAIL UNCERTAINTIES THAT  
COMPLICATE THE FORECAST OF SENSIBLE WEATHER OVER SOME REGIONS.  
PARTICULAR ISSUES OF NOTE INVOLVE TUESDAY-WEDNESDAY FRONTAL  
WAVE(S) LIFTING FROM THE NORTHERN PLAINS INTO CANADA AS SHORTWAVE  
ENERGY EJECTS NORTHEASTWARD FROM THE ROCKIES, WHAT HAPPENS WITH  
ENERGY IN THE SOUTHERN ROCKIES PART OF THE INITIAL TROUGH  
WEDNESDAY-THURSDAY, AND SPECIFICS OF EASTERN PACIFIC-WEST COAST  
RIDGING/PERIPHERAL SHORTWAVE ENERGY IMPACTING THE EVOLUTION OF  
EASTERN NORTH AMERICAN TROUGHING LATE NEXT WEEK.  
 
FAIRLY SMALL-SCALE (THUS HAVING LOWER PREDICTABILITY) DETAIL AND  
TIMING DIFFERENCES ARE AFFECTING THE PRECISE EVOLUTION OF NORTHERN  
PLAINS INTO SOUTHERN CANADA LOW PRESSURE DURING TUESDAY-WEDNESDAY.  
IN GUIDANCE THROUGH THE 00Z-06Z CYCLES, THE GFS/GEFS MEAN WERE  
GENERALLY FASTER AND MORE CONSOLIDATED WITH THE SURFACE SYSTEM  
(FULLY OVER SOUTHERN CANADA BY EARLY WEDNESDAY) WHILE TO VARYING  
DEGREES THE 00Z ECMWF/CMC/UKMET DEPICTED A SECOND TRAILING WAVE.  
THE ECENS/CMCENS MEANS HINTED AT THE ECMWF CLUSTER. OVERALL  
PREFERENCE WAS TO LEAN AWAY FROM THE SLOWEST SIDE OF THE SPREAD,  
AND NEW 12Z MODEL RUNS STRONGLY FAVOR A FASTER TRAILING WAVE IF IT  
EXISTS.  
 
REGARDING THE SOUTHERN PART OF THE UPPER TROUGH, 00Z AND NEW 12Z  
CMC/UKMET RUNS PULL A NOTABLE AMOUNT OF ENERGY INTO THE  
SOUTHWESTERN U.S., IN CONTRAST TO ECMWF RUNS THAT REMAIN PHASED  
AND PROGRESSIVE. INTERESTINGLY, THE GFS HAS TRENDED FROM PULLING  
OFF SOME ENERGY IN THE 00Z/06Z RUNS TO BEING MORE LIKE THE ECMWF  
IN THE 12Z RUN. THE FULL ENSEMBLE SPREAD INCLUDES ALL OF THESE  
POSSIBILITIES, BUT THE CMC/UKMET SCENARIO IS SUFFICIENTLY IN THE  
MINORITY FOR THE ENSEMBLE MEANS TO BE MORE LIKE THE ECMWF AND 12Z  
GFS. THUS THE PREFERENCE FOR THIS ASPECT OF THE FORECAST WAS  
CLOSEST TO THE ENSEMBLE MEANS/ECMWF.  
 
DIFFERENCES CONTINUE WITH HOW ENERGY OVER AND UPSTREAM FROM THE  
GULF OF ALASKA FEEDS INTO THE MEAN TROUGH BASED ON THE CHARACTER  
OF THE EASTERN PACIFIC RIDGE DRIFTING TOWARD THE WEST COAST. THE  
06Z GFS AND 12Z UKMET SHOW SOME BRIEF DAMPENING OF THE NORTHERN  
PERIPHERY OF THE RIDGE LEADING TO SOMEWHAT BROADER DOWNSTREAM  
TROUGHING. SHORTWAVE DIFFERENCES IN THE 06Z GFS GET TO BE  
SIGNIFICANT ENOUGH BY DAY 7 SATURDAY TO RESULT IN A CENTRAL U.S.  
SURFACE PATTERN THAT BECOMES OUT OF SYNC WITH MOST OTHER MODELS  
AND THE ENSEMBLE MEANS. 12Z GUIDANCE AS A WHOLE IS STARTING TO  
LOOK A LITTLE MORE SIMILAR THOUGH, HOPEFULLY PROVIDING A LITTLE  
MORE STABILITY FOR SPECIFICS OF THE LEADING COLD FRONT REACHING  
THE EAST COAST AND TRAILING FRONT EXPECTED TO DROP INTO THE  
NORTHERN TIER BY LATE WEEK.  
 
AN OPERATIONAL MODEL BLEND WAS REASONABLE FOR DAY 3 TUESDAY BUT  
THEN GUIDANCE PREFERENCES LED TO STEADY REDUCTION OF CMC/UKMET  
INPUT (REPLACED BY 06Z GEFS/00Z ECENS MEANS), WITH THE ENSEMBLE  
MEANS REACHING 60 PERCENT TOTAL WEIGHT BY DAYS 6-7  
FRIDAY-SATURDAY. LINGERING OPERATIONAL MODEL INPUT AT THAT TIME  
LEANED MORE TO THE ECMWF THAN GFS, AND AMONG GFS RUNS MORE TO THE  
00Z RUN VERSUS THE 06Z VERSION.  
 
   
..WEATHER/HAZARDS HIGHLIGHTS
 
 
THE UPPER TROUGH AND LEADING COLD FRONT EMERGING INTO THE PLAINS  
WILL SUPPORT WIDESPREAD RAIN AND THUNDERSTORMS IN THE CENTRAL U.S.  
ON TUESDAY. A BROAD MARGINAL RISK IN THE DAY 4 EXCESSIVE RAINFALL  
OUTLOOK COVERS MOST OF THE REGION. MODEL AND ENSEMBLE GUIDANCE HAS  
RECENTLY NARROWED IN ON AN AXIS OF RELATIVELY HEAVIER QPF ALONG  
THE SURFACE LOW TRACK IN THE NORTHERN PLAINS. THE FRONTAL LOW  
ALONG WITH A POTENT SHORTWAVE AND SOME INSTABILITY IN THE VICINITY  
SHOULD PROVIDE THE INGREDIENTS FOR HEAVY RAINFALL, AND A SLIGHT  
RISK AREA HAS BEEN MAINTAINED--CENTERED MOSTLY OVER EASTERN NORTH  
DAKOTA AND FAR NORTHWESTERN MINNESOTA. SLIGHTLY FASTER 12Z MODEL  
TRENDS ARE LOWERING CONFIDENCE IN SOME OF THE HIGHER TOTALS  
PREVIOUSLY FORECAST, BUT FOR NOW THERE IS AT LEAST SOME  
PERSISTENCE OF A RELATIVE MAXIMUM OVER THIS AREA. THEN BY  
WEDNESDAY, THE NORTHERN SIDE OF THE COLD FRONT MAY BE MOVING MORE  
PROGRESSIVELY THROUGH THE MIDWEST FOR SOME LIGHTER RAIN, WHILE  
HEAVY RAIN AND THUNDERSTORMS BECOME MORE WIDESPREAD IN THE  
SOUTHERN PLAINS WHERE THE RIGHT ENTRANCE REGION OF THE JET WILL  
PROVIDE AMPLE LIFT AND PLENTY OF INSTABILITY IS IN PLACE JUST  
AHEAD OF THE FRONT. THUS A SLIGHT RISK IS IN PLACE THERE IN THE  
DAY 5/WEDNESDAY ERO, AS DESPITE THE DROUGHT CONDITIONS, HIGH RAIN  
RATES THAT COULD OVERCOME THE DRYNESS ARE LIKELY. LATEST GUIDANCE  
MAINTAINS SUPPORT FOR THIS SLIGHT RISK AREA. UNCERTAINTY OVER WHAT  
HAPPENS TO ENERGY IN THE SOUTHERN PART OF THE UPPER TROUGH LEADS  
TO SOME QUESTION MARKS OVER THE LONGITUDE OF HEAVIEST RAINFALL,  
WITH SEEMINGLY LOWER-PROBABILITY UKMET/CMC SOLUTIONS LEADING TO A  
FARTHER WEST LOCATION. THE WESTERN PERIPHERY OF THE MARGINAL RISK  
AREA ACCOUNTS FOR THIS POSSIBILITY.  
 
THE COLD FRONT SHOULD GRADUALLY PUSH THROUGH THE SOUTH-CENTRAL  
U.S. THURSDAY AND FRIDAY, PRESSING RAIN CHANCES SOUTHWARD WITH IT.  
MEANWHILE SHOWERS WILL LIKELY TRACK ACROSS THE OHIO/TENNESSEE  
VALLEYS AROUND THURSDAY AND INTO THE EAST BY FRIDAY ALONG AND  
AHEAD OF THE FRONT. DEPENDING ON THE SPECIFICS OF UPPER TROUGHING  
BY SATURDAY, THE COLD FRONT COULD BEGIN TO TAP ATLANTIC MOISTURE  
WITHIN SOUTHERLY FLOW TO INCREASE RAINFALL OVER PARTS OF THE  
NORTHEAST. NOT TOO MUCH PRECIPITATION LOOKS TO OCCUR ELSEWHERE,  
THOUGH THERE COULD BE SOME LINGERING SNOW OVER HIGHER ELEVATIONS  
OF THE WEST IN ASSOCIATION WITH THE UPPER TROUGH CROSSING THE  
REGION THROUGH MIDWEEK. SOME RAIN IN THE WESTERN ATLANTIC COULD  
PROVIDE A FEW SHOWERS TO EASTERN FLORIDA, BUT OTHERWISE EXPECT THE  
RAIN TO STAY MAINLY OFFSHORE.  
 
IN TERMS OF TEMPERATURES, THE AMPLIFIED TROUGH WILL LEAD TO COOLER  
TEMPERATURES THAN AVERAGE WHILE THE RIDGE TO THE EAST WILL SUPPORT  
ABOVE NORMAL TEMPERATURES. THE INTERIOR WEST SHOULD SEE COOLER  
TEMPERATURES THAN AVERAGE ESPECIALLY THROUGH MIDWEEK, WITH WITH  
LOWS 5-10F BELOW NORMAL BUT HIGHS AROUND 10-20F BELOW AVERAGE.  
THIS PUTS HIGH TEMPERATURES GENERALLY IN THE 80S FOR THE SOUTHWEST  
AND THE 50S AND 60S FOR THE GREAT BASIN THROUGH AROUND MIDWEEK,  
WARMING TO NEAR NORMAL FOR THE LATTER PART OF THE WEEK. MEANWHILE  
WARMER THAN AVERAGE TEMPERATURES BY AROUND 15-20F ABOVE NORMAL ARE  
FORECAST FOR THE MIDWEST INTO THE GREAT LAKES AND THE INTERIOR  
NORTHEAST, WITH HIGHS IN THE UPPER 70S TO LOW 80S. SOME DAILY  
RECORDS FOR HIGHS/WARM LOWS MAY BE POSSIBLE TUESDAY-WEDNESDAY. AS  
THE COLD FRONT AND UPPER TROUGH MARCH EAST INTO THE LATTER HALF OF  
THE WEEK, HIGH TEMPERATURES WILL COOL TO BELOW AVERAGE ACROSS THE  
CENTRAL AND THEN EAST-CENTRAL U.S., LIMITING THE ABOVE NORMAL  
TEMPERATURES TO THE NORTHEAST. A TRAILING FRONT MAY REINFORCE THE  
COOLING TREND BY FRIDAY-SATURDAY. APPROACH/ARRIVAL OF THE EASTERN  
PACIFIC UPPER RIDGE SHOULD RAISE TEMPERATURES ALONG THE WEST COAST  
TO ABOVE AVERAGE, BY AS MUCH AS 5-15F, AND SOME RECORD WARM LOWS  
MAY BE POSSIBLE.  
 
RAUSCH/TATE  
 
ADDITIONAL 3-7 DAY HAZARD INFORMATION CAN BE FOUND ON THE WPC  
MEDIUM RANGE HAZARDS OUTLOOK CHART AT:  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/THREATS/THREATS.PHP  
 
WPC MEDIUM RANGE 500MB HEIGHTS, SURFACE SYSTEMS, WEATHER GRIDS,  
QUANTITATIVE PRECIPITATION FORECAST, EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OUTLOOK,  
WINTER WEATHER OUTLOOK PROBABILITIES, HEAT INDICES AND KEY  
MESSAGES ARE AT:  
 
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST500_WBG.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST_WBG_CONUS.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/5KM_GRIDS/5KM_GRIDSBODY.HTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/QPF/DAY4-7.SHTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/#PAGE=ERO  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/WWD/PWPF_D47/PWPF_MEDR.PHP?DAY=4  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/HEAT_INDEX.SHTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/#PAGE=OVW  
 

 
 

 
 
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