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FXUS02 KWBC 010704  
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EXTENDED FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NWS WEATHER PREDICTION CENTER COLLEGE PARK MD  
304 AM EDT SUN OCT 01 2023  
 
VALID 12Z WED OCT 04 2023 - 12Z SUN OCT 08 2023  
 
...HEAVY RAIN WILL CAUSE FLASH FLOODING CONCERNS IN THE  
SOUTH-CENTRAL U.S. AROUND MIDWEEK...  
 
   
..OVERVIEW
 
 
AS THE MEDIUM RANGE PERIOD BEGINS WEDNESDAY, AN AMPLIFIED UPPER  
TROUGH WILL BE IN PLACE WITH ITS AXIS OVER THE HIGH PLAINS OR SO.  
MOIST AND UNSTABLE INFLOW AHEAD OF THE TROUGH AND AN ASSOCIATED  
WAVY COLD FRONT SHOULD LEAD TO WIDESPREAD HEAVY RAIN AND FLASH  
FLOODING ACROSS THE SOUTHERN PLAINS AND PERHAPS INTO THE LOWER  
MISSISSIPPI VALLEY PARTICULARLY ON WEDNESDAY, WITH SOME HEAVY RAIN  
POSSIBLY LASTING LATER IN THE WEEK ON A MORE LIMITED SCALE.  
FARTHER NORTH, THE COLD FRONT MARCHING EASTWARD SHOULD HELP CAUSE  
SOME RAIN TO PUSH ACROSS THE EAST-CENTRAL AND EASTERN U.S. THROUGH  
THE LATTER HALF OF THE WEEK, AS WELL AS SPREAD COOLER THAN NORMAL  
TEMPERATURES BEHIND IT AFTER A WARM SPELL IN THE GREAT LAKES/OHIO  
VALLEY INTO THE NORTHEAST AROUND MIDWEEK.  
 
   
..GUIDANCE EVALUATION/PREDICTABILITY ASSESSMENT
 
 
OPERATIONAL MODELS AND ENSEMBLE MEANS AGREE ON THE GENERAL IDEA OF  
GRADUAL EASTWARD PROGRESSION OF THE AMPLIFIED RIDGE-TROUGH-RIDGE  
CONFIGURATION BUT THERE ARE NOTABLE DETAIL UNCERTAINTIES THAT  
COMPLICATE THE FORECAST OF SENSIBLE WEATHER OVER SOME REGIONS. ONE  
ASPECT NOW PHASING INTO THE SHORT RANGE PERIOD TUESDAY BUT ALSO  
AFFECTING WEDNESDAY IS A FASTER SURFACE LOW TRACK INTO  
SOUTH-CENTRAL CANADA, WHICH HAS REDUCED THE QPF COMPARED TO A DAY  
AGO. AT LEAST MODEL GUIDANCE HAS CONVERGED BETTER WITH THAT AT  
THIS POINT.  
 
ANOTHER THORN IN THE SIDE OF THE FORECAST THE PAST COUPLE DAYS HAS  
BEEN THE POTENTIAL FOR SOME ENERGY TO HANG BACK IN THE  
SOUTHWESTERN U.S. BY AROUND THURSDAY. THE 12Z CMC AND UKMET AND  
THEIR NEWER 00Z RUNS HAVE BEEN CONSISTENT IN SHOWING THAT, WHILE  
THE 18Z GFS DID SO IN WEAKER FORM. ECMWF RUNS HAD NOT FAVORED  
THIS...UP UNTIL THE CURRENTLY INCOMING 00Z RUN THAT INDICATED THIS  
POSSIBILITY. FORTUNATELY THOUGH, EVEN THOUGH RECENT 00Z MODELS  
STILL HAVE SOME DIFFERENCES WITH THIS ENERGY, AT LEAST THE  
SHORTWAVE DOES NOT LOOK TO BE TERRIBLY STRONG, AND THE TRACK OF  
THE MAIN TROUGH AXIS IS NOT AS AFFECTED. THE 12Z CMC AND UKMET DID  
END UP WITH A FASTER MAIN TROUGH TRACK COMPARED TO THE MORE  
AGREEABLE ECMWF/GFS AND THEIR MEANS. THAT 12Z CMC/UKMET AT LEAST  
SEEMED LIKE A MINORITY SOLUTION TO LEAN AGAINST FOR THIS ASPECT OF  
THE FORECAST. BUT WILL CONTINUE TO MONITOR THIS POTENTIAL FOR THE  
SOUTHWESTERN SHORTWAVE THAT REMAINS UNCERTAIN.  
 
MEANWHILE, RECENT MODELS HAVE STABILIZED A LITTLE BETTER WITH THE  
EVOLUTION OF HOW ENERGY OVER AND UPSTREAM FROM THE GULF OF ALASKA  
FEEDS INTO THE MEAN TROUGH BASED ON THE CHARACTER OF THE EASTERN  
PACIFIC RIDGE DRIFTING TOWARD THE WEST COAST. BUT MODELS WITH  
STRONGER SHORTWAVES LIKE THE 18Z GFS SHOW SOME BRIEF DAMPENING OF  
THE NORTHERN PERIPHERY OF THE RIDGE LEADING TO SOMEWHAT BROADER  
DOWNSTREAM TROUGHING. THE 00Z GUIDANCE SEEMS TO BE SOMEWHAT MORE  
AGREEABLE BUT WITH SOME VARIATIONS REMAINING, ESPECIALLY WITH THE  
CMC. THESE DIFFERENCES AFFECT THE POSITIONS OF THE LEADING COLD  
FRONT REACHING THE EAST COAST AND A SECONDARY COLD FRONT  
TRAVERSING THE CENTRAL U.S. THROUGH LATE WEEK.  
 
OVERALL THE WPC MODEL PREFERENCE WAS FOR AN OPERATIONAL MODEL  
BLEND FOR DAY 3/WEDNESDAY, BUT QUICKLY TOOK OUT THE 12Z CMC AND  
UKMET AND REPLACED THEM WITH THE 18Z GEFS AND 12Z ECENS MEANS.  
INCREASED THE PERCENTAGE OF THE MEANS TO JUST OVER HALF BY DAYS  
6-7 TO LIMIT TOO MUCH INDIVIDUAL MODEL INFLUENCE WITH THEIR  
CONTINUED VARIATIONS IN THE DETAILS OF THE FLOW.  
 
   
..WEATHER/HAZARDS HIGHLIGHTS
 
 
THE SOUTH-CENTRAL U.S. WILL BE AN AREA OF FOCUS FOR WIDESPREAD  
HEAVY RAIN ESPECIALLY ON WEDNESDAY, AS THE RIGHT ENTRANCE REGION  
OF THE JET WILL PROVIDE AMPLE LIFT, AND PLENTY OF INSTABILITY IS  
IN PLACE JUST AHEAD OF THE COLD FRONT. A SLIGHT RISK REMAINS IN  
PLACE THERE IN THE DAY 4/WEDNESDAY EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OUTLOOK, AS  
DESPITE THE DROUGHT CONDITIONS, HIGH RAIN RATES THAT COULD  
OVERCOME THE DRYNESS ARE LIKELY. GENERALLY MINOR ADJUSTMENTS WERE  
NEEDED COMPARED TO THE PREVIOUS ISSUANCES OF THE SLIGHT RISK, AND  
A MARGINAL RISK CONTINUES TO COVER SOME OF THE SEEMINGLY  
LOWER-PROBABILITY UKMET/CMC SOLUTIONS THAT INDICATE HEAVY RAIN  
FARTHER NORTHWEST. BY THURSDAY, THE COLD FRONT WILL PUSH SOUTHEAST  
AND CLEAR OUT RAIN POTENTIAL ON ITS BACKSIDE, BUT COULD STILL  
PROVIDE FORCING FOR CONVECTION ALONG AND AHEAD OF IT INTO SOUTHERN  
AND EASTERN PARTS OF TEXAS AND INTO THE LOWER MISSISSIPPI VALLEY.  
MODEL GUIDANCE IS QUITE VARIABLE WITH RAIN AMOUNTS AND PLACEMENT  
OF ANY HEAVY AMOUNTS, SO HAVE A MARGINAL RISK FOR THE ERO TO COVER  
ANY THREAT WHILE AWAITING BETTER MODEL AGREEMENT. SOME LINGERING  
RAIN MAY BE POSSIBLE IN SOUTH TEXAS LATE WEEK.  
 
FARTHER NORTH, THE COLD FRONT SHOULD TRACK MORE PROGRESSIVELY  
THROUGH THE MIDWEST/UPPER GREAT LAKES ON WEDNESDAY, ACROSS THE  
OHIO/TENNESSEE VALLEYS AROUND THURSDAY, AND INTO THE EAST BY  
FRIDAY, PRODUCING SHOWERS AND PERHAPS THUNDERSTORMS ALONG AND  
AHEAD OF IT. THIS RAIN SHOULD OVERALL BE LIGHTER THAN FARTHER  
SOUTH, BUT MAY BE ENHANCED IN THE NORTHEAST ESPECIALLY IN FAVORED  
TERRAIN, AS THE FRONT COULD BEGIN TO TAP ATLANTIC MOISTURE WITHIN  
SOUTHERLY FLOW TO INCREASE RAINFALL, DEPENDING ON THE SPECIFICS OF  
UPPER TROUGHING BY LATE WEEK.  
 
THE AMPLIFIED TROUGH AND THE COLD FRONT WILL LEAD TO COOLER  
TEMPERATURES THAN AVERAGE WHILE THE UPPER RIDGES TO THE EAST AND  
WEST WILL SUPPORT ABOVE NORMAL TEMPERATURES. THE INTERIOR WEST  
SHOULD SEE COOLER TEMPERATURES THAN AVERAGE ESPECIALLY THROUGH  
MIDWEEK, WITH WITH LOWS 5-10F BELOW NORMAL BUT HIGHS AROUND 10-15F  
BELOW AVERAGE, BUT WARMING TO NEAR NORMAL FOR THE LATTER PART OF  
THE WEEK. MEANWHILE WARMER THAN AVERAGE TEMPERATURES BY AROUND  
15-20F ABOVE NORMAL ARE FORECAST FOR THE MIDWEST INTO THE GREAT  
LAKES AND THE INTERIOR NORTHEAST, WITH HIGHS IN THE UPPER 70S TO  
LOW 80S. SOME DAILY RECORDS FOR HIGHS/WARM LOWS MAY BE POSSIBLE  
WEDNESDAY. AS THE COLD FRONT AND UPPER TROUGH MARCH EAST INTO THE  
LATTER HALF OF THE WEEK, TEMPERATURES WILL COOL TO BELOW AVERAGE  
ACROSS THE CENTRAL AND THEN EAST-CENTRAL U.S., LIMITING THE ABOVE  
NORMAL TEMPERATURES TO THE NORTHEAST. A TRAILING FRONT MAY  
REINFORCE THE COOLING TREND BY FRIDAY-SUNDAY, AND THERE COULD BE  
CONCERNS FOR THE FIRST FROST OR FREEZE OF THE SEASON TO OCCUR IN  
THE NORTHERN HIGH PLAINS. APPROACH/ARRIVAL OF THE EASTERN PACIFIC  
UPPER RIDGE SHOULD RAISE TEMPERATURES ALONG THE WEST COAST TO  
ABOVE AVERAGE, BY AS MUCH AS 5-15F, AND SOME RECORD WARM LOWS MAY  
BE POSSIBLE.  
 
TATE/RAUSCH  
 
ADDITIONAL 3-7 DAY HAZARD INFORMATION CAN BE FOUND ON THE WPC  
MEDIUM RANGE HAZARDS OUTLOOK CHART AT:  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/THREATS/THREATS.PHP  
 
WPC MEDIUM RANGE 500MB HEIGHTS, SURFACE SYSTEMS, WEATHER GRIDS,  
QUANTITATIVE PRECIPITATION FORECAST, EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OUTLOOK,  
WINTER WEATHER OUTLOOK PROBABILITIES, HEAT INDICES AND KEY  
MESSAGES ARE AT:  
 
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST500_WBG.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST_WBG_CONUS.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/5KM_GRIDS/5KM_GRIDSBODY.HTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/QPF/DAY4-7.SHTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/#PAGE=ERO  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/WWD/PWPF_D47/PWPF_MEDR.PHP?DAY=4  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/HEAT_INDEX.SHTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/#PAGE=OVW  
 

 
 

 
 
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