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FXUS02 KWBC 030701  
PMDEPD  
 
EXTENDED FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NWS WEATHER PREDICTION CENTER COLLEGE PARK MD  
300 AM EDT TUE OCT 03 2023  
 
VALID 12Z FRI OCT 06 2023 - 12Z TUE OCT 10 2023  
 
...HEAVY RAIN AND FLASH FLOODING THREATS RAMP UP IN THE NORTHEAST  
LATE WEEK...  
 
   
..OVERVIEW
 
 
AN UPPER TROUGH AND LIKELY AN EMBEDDED UPPER LOW ARE FORECAST TO  
SWING SLOWLY THROUGH THE GREAT LAKES REGION SOUTHWARD LATE THIS  
WEEK INTO EARLY NEXT WEEK, WHILE A COLD FRONT SWEEPS THROUGH THE  
EASTERN U.S. AT THE SURFACE. RAIN CHANCES WILL INCREASE ALONG AND  
AHEAD OF THE FRONT, AND HEAVY RAINFALL MAY CAUSE FLOODING CONCERNS  
IN THE NORTHEAST ON FRIDAY AND SATURDAY. SOME RAIN (WITH LAKE  
EFFECT ENHANCEMENT) COULD LINGER INTO EARLY NEXT WEEK UNDERNEATH  
THE UPPER LOW. MEANWHILE AN UPPER RIDGE SHOULD OVERTAKE THE  
WESTERN U.S. FOR WARMER THAN AVERAGE TEMPERATURES AND GENERALLY  
DRY CONDITIONS, UNTIL EARLY NEXT WEEK WHEN A TROUGH AND FRONTAL  
SYSTEM COULD PUSH INTO THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST.  
 
   
..GUIDANCE EVALUATION/PREDICTABILITY ASSESSMENT
 
 
MODEL GUIDANCE IS IN REASONABLY GOOD AGREEMENT WITH THE TROUGH  
OVER THE GREAT LAKES, WITH THE PAST COUPLE MODEL CYCLES MORE  
AGREEABLE IN FORMING A CLOSED LOW WITHIN THE TROUGH LIKELY OVER  
THE WEEKEND. THE CLOSED LOW SERVES TO SLOW DOWN THE MOVEMENT OF  
THE FEATURE, WITH ONLY A SLOW DRIFT IN ITS PLACEMENT EARLY NEXT  
WEEK. DETERMINISTIC MODELS DO HAVE SOME SPREAD WITH ITS EVENTUAL  
POSITIONING. GFS RUNS INCLUDING THE 18Z AND NEW 00Z RUN HAVING THE  
UPPER LOW RETROGRADE TO THE SOUTHWEST DOES SEEM TO BE INCONSISTENT  
WITH OTHER DETERMINISTIC AND ENSEMBLE GUIDANCE, SO THE GFS WAS NOT  
PREFERRED AT THIS POINT.  
 
BEHIND THE UPPER TROUGH/LOW, MODELS ALSO ARE AGREEABLE WITH AN  
UPPER RIDGE SHIFTING FROM THE WEST COAST AT THE START OF THE  
PERIOD FRIDAY GRADUALLY INTO THE INTERIOR WEST OVER THE  
WEEKEND/EARLY NEXT WEEK AND THE CENTRAL U.S. BY TUESDAY. TROUGHING  
COMING INTO THE EASTERN PACIFIC STEMMING FROM AN ALASKAN UPPER LOW  
SHOWS SOME SPREAD IN ITS AXIS AND DEPTH BUT PRETTY MINOR FOR A  
FEATURE IN THAT REGION FOR THAT LEAD TIME.  
 
WITH THE REASONABLY GOOD CONSENSUS FOR THE LARGE SCALE PATTERN,  
THE WPC FORECAST USED A BLEND OF THE DETERMINISTIC GUIDANCE  
PARTICULARLY FAVORING THE 18Z GFS AND 12Z ECMWF EARLY IN THE  
PERIOD, TRANSITIONING TO INCORPORATE THE ENSEMBLE MEANS TO HALF BY  
DAY 6 AND JUST OVER HALF DAY 7 AS MODEL SPREAD INCREASED,  
ESPECIALLY LESSENING THE GFS PROPORTION. CONTINUITY FROM THE  
PREVIOUS FORECAST WAS GENERALLY WELL MAINTAINED.  
 
   
..WEATHER/HAZARDS HIGHLIGHTS
 
 
AS THE UPPER TROUGH AND FORMING EMBEDDED LOW TRACK ACROSS THE  
GREAT LAKES LATE WEEK, ATLANTIC MOISTURE IS LIKELY TO FLOW INTO  
THE NORTHEASTERN U.S., LEADING TO INCREASING RAIN TOTALS ON FRIDAY  
AND ESPECIALLY BY SATURDAY ALONG AND AHEAD OF THE COLD FRONT.  
INSTABILITY MAY BE SOMEWHAT LIMITED, BUT THE FORCING FOR ASCENT  
WILL BE STRONG WITH THE RIGHT ENTRANCE REGION OF THE JET OVERHEAD,  
AND PRECIPITABLE WATER ANOMALIES ARE FORECAST TO BE AT LEAST ABOVE  
THE 75TH IF NOT THE 90TH PERCENTILE. RAIN AMOUNTS LOOK TO INCREASE  
BY SATURDAY, WITH UPSLOPE FLOW/TERRAIN ENHANCEMENT LIKELY PLAYING  
A ROLE IN THE INTERIOR NORTHEAST. THUS A MARGINAL RISK REMAINS IN  
PLACE ACROSS THE LOWER GREAT LAKES REGION AND PARTS OF THE  
NORTHERN MID-ATLANTIC AND NORTHEAST FOR DAY 4/FRIDAY, WITH A  
SLIGHT RISK ACROSS THE INTERIOR NORTHEAST ON DAY 5/SATURDAY. MOST  
HEAVY RAIN WILL EXIT BY SUNDAY BUT SOME LINGERING SHOWERS ARE  
POSSIBLE UNDERNEATH THE UPPER LOW THROUGH EARLY NEXT WEEK, WITH  
LAKE EFFECT RAIN SHOWERS LIKELY.  
 
FARTHER SOUTH, THE TAIL END OF THE COLD FRONT COULD LINGER INTO  
SOUTH TEXAS INTO AT LEAST FRIDAY, SPARKING ADDITIONAL SHOWERS AND  
THUNDERSTORMS THERE AFTER A FEW WET DAYS. A MARGINAL RISK REMAINS  
IN PLACE FOR THE DAY 4 ERO/FRIDAY. RAIN AMOUNTS LOOK TO GRADUALLY  
LESSEN THIS WEEKEND INTO EARLY NEXT WEEK. MEANWHILE, CONDITIONS IN  
THE WEST LOOK TO BE DRY UNDER THE UPPER RIDGE, ASIDE FROM LIMITED  
SHOWERS POSSIBLE IN THE SOUTHWEST. THIS IS LIKELY TO CHANGE EARLY  
NEXT WEEK AS A FRONT AND UPPER TROUGH APPROACH THE PACIFIC  
NORTHWEST, CAUSING INCREASING PRECIPITATION CHANCES.  
 
THE AMPLIFIED TROUGH AND THE COLD FRONT WILL LEAD TO COOLER  
TEMPERATURES THAN AVERAGE, WHILE THE UPPER RIDGE TO THE WEST OF IT  
SUPPORTS ABOVE NORMAL TEMPERATURES. ONE MORE WARMER THAN AVERAGE  
DAY IS POSSIBLE IN THE NORTHEAST ON FRIDAY, WHILE HIGH  
TEMPERATURES ACROSS THE PLAINS INTO MIDWEST WILL BE BELOW AVERAGE  
BY 10-20F. LOWS LOOK TO BE A LITTLE LESS ANOMALOUS FRIDAY MORNING  
BUT COULD DROP FURTHER ON SATURDAY, WITH LOW 30S AND PERHAPS A FEW  
TEMPERATURES IN THE UPPER 20S IN THE NORTHERN HALF OF THE PLAINS,  
CREATING THE POSSIBILITY OF THE FIRST FROST OR FREEZE OF THE  
SEASON. AS THE UPPER TROUGH AND THE COLD FRONT(S) MARCH EAST INTO  
THE WEEKEND, TEMPERATURES SHOULD COOL TO BELOW AVERAGE ACROSS THE  
EAST-CENTRAL U.S. AND EVENTUALLY MAKING THEIR WAY TO THE EASTERN  
SEABOARD BY EARLY NEXT WEEK. MEANWHILE THE ARRIVAL OF AN UPPER  
RIDGE ACROSS THE WEST WILL FIRST RAISE TEMPERATURES ALONG THE WEST  
COAST TO 10-15F ABOVE NORMAL, WITH SOME RECORD WARM LOWS POSSIBLE.  
THE SHIFT/EXPANSION OF THE RIDGE FARTHER EAST SHOULD LEAD TO  
WARMER THAN AVERAGE TEMPERATURES ACROSS THE NORTHERN ROCKIES INTO  
THE HIGH PLAINS EARLY NEXT WEEK.  
 
TATE  
 
ADDITIONAL 3-7 DAY HAZARD INFORMATION CAN BE FOUND ON THE WPC  
MEDIUM RANGE HAZARDS OUTLOOK CHART AT:  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/THREATS/THREATS.PHP  
 
WPC MEDIUM RANGE 500MB HEIGHTS, SURFACE SYSTEMS, WEATHER GRIDS,  
QUANTITATIVE PRECIPITATION FORECAST, EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OUTLOOK,  
WINTER WEATHER OUTLOOK PROBABILITIES, HEAT INDICES AND KEY  
MESSAGES ARE AT:  
 
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST500_WBG.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST_WBG_CONUS.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/5KM_GRIDS/5KM_GRIDSBODY.HTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/QPF/DAY4-7.SHTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/#PAGE=ERO  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/WWD/PWPF_D47/PWPF_MEDR.PHP?DAY=4  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/HEAT_INDEX.SHTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/#PAGE=OVW  
 

 
 

 
 
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