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FXUS02 KWBC 031858  
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EXTENDED FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NWS WEATHER PREDICTION CENTER COLLEGE PARK MD  
258 PM EDT TUE OCT 03 2023  
 
VALID 12Z FRI OCT 06 2023 - 12Z TUE OCT 10 2023  
 
...HEAVY RAIN AND FLASH FLOODING THREATS RAMP UP IN THE NORTHEAST  
LATE WEEK...  
 
   
..OVERVIEW
 
 
AN UPPER TROUGH AND LIKELY AN EMBEDDED UPPER LOW ARE FORECAST TO  
SWING SLOWLY THROUGH THE GREAT LAKES REGION SOUTHWARD LATE THIS  
WEEK INTO EARLY NEXT WEEK, WHILE A COLD FRONT SWEEPS THROUGH THE  
EASTERN U.S. AT THE SURFACE. RAIN CHANCES WILL INCREASE ALONG AND  
AHEAD OF THE FRONT, AND HEAVY RAINFALL MAY CAUSE FLOODING CONCERNS  
IN THE NORTHEAST ON FRIDAY AND SATURDAY. SOME RAIN (WITH LAKE  
EFFECT ENHANCEMENT) COULD LINGER INTO EARLY NEXT WEEK UNDERNEATH  
THE UPPER LOW. MEANWHILE AN UPPER RIDGE SHOULD OVERTAKE THE  
WESTERN U.S. FOR WARMER THAN AVERAGE TEMPERATURES AND GENERALLY  
DRY CONDITIONS, UNTIL EARLY NEXT WEEK WHEN A TROUGH AND FRONTAL  
SYSTEM COULD PUSH INTO THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST.  
 
   
..GUIDANCE EVALUATION/PREDICTABILITY ASSESSMENT
 
 
MODEL GUIDANCE REMAINS IN GOOD AGREEMENT IN THE OVERALL PATTERN  
THROUGH MOST OF THE FORECAST PERIOD AS A TROUGH OVER THE CENTER OF  
THE COUNTRY EARLIER IN THE PERIOD WILL BE REINFORCED BY ADDITIONAL  
SHORTWAVE ENERGY, DEEPENING OVER THE GREAT LAKES AS RIDGING OVER  
THE WEST SHIFTS EASTWARD AND AMPLIFIES IN ITS WAKE OVER PORTIONS  
OF THE NORTH-CENTRAL U.S. A DEEP UPPER-LEVEL LOW IS EXPECTED TO  
DEVELOP IN THE VICINITY OF THE GREAT LAKES/INTERIOR NORTHEAST AS  
INDICATED IN THE LAST FEW RUNS OF THE GFS AND NOW A SUPPORTED  
TREND IN THE MORE RECENT RUNS OF THE ECMWF. THE CMC EVENTUALLY  
ALSO DEVELOPS A CLOSED LOW BY MID-PERIOD. THE SPREAD AROUND THE  
EXACT EVOLUTION OF THE CORE OF UPPER-LEVEL ENERGY ASSOCIATED WITH  
THIS TROUGH EXPECTEDLY INCREASES MID- TO LATE PERIOD, THOUGH DEEP  
MEAN TROUGHING SHOULD REMAIN IN PLACE OVER GREAT LAKES/NORTHEAST  
THROUGH THE END OF THE PERIOD. TO THE WEST, THERE IS A BIT MORE  
DISAGREEMENT WITH BOTH THE AMPLIFICATION OF THE RIDGING FROM THE  
WESTERN INTO THE NORTH-CENTRAL U.S. AND THE APPROACH OF UPSTREAM  
ENERGY OVER THE NORTHEASTERN PACIFIC. BOTH THE MORE RECENT RUNS OF  
THE ECMWF AND GFS HAVE VARIED A BIT IN HOW AMPLIFIED THE PATTERN  
WILL BE, WITH THE 00Z ECMWF MORE AMPLIFIED AND THE GFS TRENDING  
LESS AMPLIFIED. THE ECENS MEAN IS A BIT MORE AMPLIFIED THAN THE  
GEFS MEAN, THOUGH THESE SOLUTIONS AT LEAST PROVIDE A CLOSER  
COMPROMISE BETWEEN THE MORE VARIED DETERMINISTIC SOLUTIONS. THIS  
WILL HAVE AN IMPACT ON THE TIMING AND AMOUNT OF POTENTIAL  
PRECIPITATION COMING INTO THE NORTHWESTERN U.S. BY EARLY NEXT  
WEEK, WITH MORE SHORTWAVE ENERGY OVERSPREADING THE REGION EARLIER  
WITH THE LESS AMPLIFIED SOLUTIONS DUE TO THE LACK OF RIDGING  
UPSTREAM. FINALLY, THERE IS A BIT OF DISAGREEMENT WITH RESPECT TO  
A WEAKNESS IN THE SOUTHERN STREAM OVER THE SOUTHWEST MID- TO LATE  
PERIOD, BUT THIS CURRENTLY LOOKS TO HAVE LITTLE SENSIBLE WEATHER  
IMPACT DUE TO THE LACK OF AVAILABLE MOISTURE FOLLOWING A STRONG  
FRONTAL PASSAGE.  
 
THE UPDATED WPC FORECAST BEGAN WITH A COMPOSITE BLEND OF THE 00Z  
ECMWF/CMC/UKMET AND 06Z GFS GIVEN GOOD OVERALL AGREEMENT. THE  
CONTRIBUTION FROM THE CMC WAS REDUCED A BIT MID- TO LATE PERIOD AS  
THE TIMING AND EVOLUTION OF THE UPPER LEVEL LOW OVER THE GREAT  
LAKES/NORTHEAST DIVERGED SOME FROM THE ECMWF/UKMET/GFS SOLUTIONS.  
A RAMP UP TO A 50% CONTRIBUTION FROM THE ECENS/GEFS MEANS WAS  
ADDED BY THE END OF THE PERIOD AS FURTHER SPREAD ARISES WITH  
RESPECT TO THE AMPLIFYING PATTERN OVER THE WESTERN/CENTRAL U.S.  
 
   
..WEATHER/HAZARDS HIGHLIGHTS
 
 
AS THE UPPER TROUGH AND FORMING EMBEDDED LOW TRACK ACROSS THE  
GREAT LAKES LATE WEEK, ATLANTIC MOISTURE IS LIKELY TO FLOW INTO  
THE NORTHEASTERN U.S., LEADING TO INCREASING RAIN TOTALS ON FRIDAY  
AND ESPECIALLY BY SATURDAY ALONG AND AHEAD OF THE COLD FRONT.  
INSTABILITY MAY BE SOMEWHAT LIMITED, BUT THE FORCING FOR ASCENT  
WILL BE STRONG WITH THE RIGHT ENTRANCE REGION OF THE JET OVERHEAD,  
AND PRECIPITABLE WATER ANOMALIES ARE FORECAST TO BE AT LEAST ABOVE  
THE 75TH IF NOT THE 90TH PERCENTILE. FORECAST RAIN AMOUNTS ACROSS  
THE GUIDANCE HAVE BEEN TRENDING UPWARD, PARTICULARLY ON SATURDAY,  
WITH UPSLOPE FLOW/TERRAIN ENHANCEMENT LIKELY PLAYING A  
CONTRIBUTING ROLE FOR LOCALLY HEAVIER TOTALS IN THE INTERIOR  
NORTHEAST. THUS, A MARGINAL RISK REMAINS IN PLACE ACROSS THE LOWER  
GREAT LAKES REGION AND PARTS OF THE NORTHERN MID-ATLANTIC AND  
NORTHEAST FOR DAY 4/FRIDAY WITH A SLIGHT RISK ACROSS THE INTERIOR  
NORTHEAST AND INTO NORTHERN NEW ENGLAND ON DAY 5/SATURDAY. THE  
HEAVY RAIN THREAT WILL LIKELY BE OVER BY SUNDAY BUT SHOWERS WILL  
LINGER FOR PORTIONS OF NORTHERN NEW ENGLAND ALONG WITH LAKE-EFFECT  
ENHANCED SHOWERS FOR THE LOWER GREAT LAKES AS A DEEP UPPER-LOW  
REMAINS OVERHEAD.  
 
FARTHER SOUTH, THE TAIL END OF THE COLD FRONT COULD LINGER INTO  
SOUTH TEXAS INTO AT LEAST FRIDAY, SPARKING ADDITIONAL SHOWERS AND  
THUNDERSTORMS THERE AFTER A FEW WET DAYS. A MARGINAL RISK REMAINS  
IN PLACE FOR THE DAY 4 ERO/FRIDAY. RAIN AMOUNTS LOOK TO GRADUALLY  
LESSEN THIS WEEKEND INTO EARLY NEXT WEEK. MEANWHILE, CONDITIONS IN  
THE WEST LOOK TO BE DRY UNDER THE UPPER RIDGE, ASIDE FROM LIMITED  
SHOWERS POSSIBLE IN THE SOUTHWEST. THIS IS LIKELY TO CHANGE EARLY  
NEXT WEEK AS A FRONT AND UPPER TROUGH BRING SOME MODERATE TO  
LOCALLY HEAVY RAIN TO THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST, EVENTUALLY SPREADING  
INTO THE NORTHERN GREAT BASIN/ROCKIES.  
 
HIGH TEMPERATURES ACROSS THE PLAINS INTO MIDWEST WILL BE BELOW  
AVERAGE BY 10-20F FRIDAY FOLLOWING A COLD FRONTAL PASSAGE WHILE  
ONE MORE WARMER THAN AVERAGE DAY IS POSSIBLE IN THE NORTHEAST.  
LOWS LOOK TO BE A LITTLE LESS ANOMALOUS FRIDAY MORNING BUT COULD  
DROP FURTHER ON SATURDAY, WITH LOW 30S AND PERHAPS A FEW  
TEMPERATURES IN THE UPPER 20S IN THE NORTHERN HALF OF THE PLAINS,  
CREATING THE POSSIBILITY OF THE FIRST FROST OR FREEZE OF THE  
SEASON. AS THE UPPER TROUGH AND COLD FRONT(S) MARCH EAST INTO THE  
WEEKEND, TEMPERATURES SHOULD COOL TO BELOW AVERAGE ACROSS THE  
EAST-CENTRAL U.S. MEANWHILE, THE ARRIVAL OF AN UPPER RIDGE ACROSS  
THE WEST WILL FIRST RAISE TEMPERATURES ALONG THE WEST COAST TO  
10-15F ABOVE NORMAL, WITH SOME RECORD WARM LOWS POSSIBLE. THE  
SHIFT/EXPANSION OF THE RIDGE FARTHER EAST SHOULD LEAD TO WARMER  
THAN AVERAGE TEMPERATURES ACROSS THE NORTHERN ROCKIES AND INTO THE  
HIGH PLAINS EARLY NEXT WEEK.  
 
PUTNAM/TATE  
 
ADDITIONAL 3-7 DAY HAZARD INFORMATION CAN BE FOUND ON THE WPC  
MEDIUM RANGE HAZARDS OUTLOOK CHART AT:  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/THREATS/THREATS.PHP  
 
WPC MEDIUM RANGE 500MB HEIGHTS, SURFACE SYSTEMS, WEATHER GRIDS,  
QUANTITATIVE PRECIPITATION FORECAST, EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OUTLOOK,  
WINTER WEATHER OUTLOOK PROBABILITIES, HEAT INDICES AND KEY  
MESSAGES ARE AT:  
 
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST500_WBG.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST_WBG_CONUS.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/5KM_GRIDS/5KM_GRIDSBODY.HTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/QPF/DAY4-7.SHTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/#PAGE=ERO  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/WWD/PWPF_D47/PWPF_MEDR.PHP?DAY=4  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/HEAT_INDEX.SHTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/#PAGE=OVW  
 

 
 

 
 
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