386  
FXUS02 KWBC 060658  
PMDEPD  
 
EXTENDED FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NWS WEATHER PREDICTION CENTER COLLEGE PARK MD  
257 AM EDT FRI OCT 06 2023  
 
VALID 12Z MON OCT 09 2023 - 12Z FRI OCT 13 2023  
   
..OVERVIEW
 
 
A DEEP UPPER LEVEL LOW IS FORECAST TO PARK ITSELF OVER  
SOUTHEASTERN CANADA AND THE GREAT LAKES AND CHURN IN PLACE THROUGH  
MOST OF NEXT WEEK. A NEARLY STATIONARY SURFACE LOW WILL CREATE  
PRECIPITATION CHANCES NEAR THE GREAT LAKES EARLY IN THE WEEK WITH  
SOME LAKE EFFECT ENHANCEMENT POSSIBLE. IN THE WEST, A TROUGH WILL  
MOVE ONSHORE EARLY IN THE WEEK AND PROGRESS EAST. THIS FEATURE  
WILL DRIVE A SURFACE FRONTAL SYSTEM EAST ACROSS THE COUNTRY  
THROUGH THE WEEK. PRECIPITATION CHANCES WILL BE GREATEST ON MONDAY  
AND TUESDAY IN THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST WHERE LOCALLY HEAVY RAINFALL  
MAY BE POSSIBLE, THEN PRECIPITATION CHANCES WILL SPREAD INTO THE  
CENTRAL U.S. MIDWEEK AND TO THE EAST COAST BY FRIDAY.  
 
   
..GUIDANCE EVALUATION/PREDICTABILITY ASSESSMENT
 
 
MODEL GUIDANCE IS IN GOOD AGREEMENT ON THE OVERALL PATTERN WITH  
SOME SLIGHT DISAGREEMENTS NEAR THE END OF THE PERIOD. THE MAIN  
DIFFERENCES ARE WITH HOW THE DEEP UPPER LEVEL LOW OVER  
SOUTHEASTERN CANADA AND THE GREAT LAKES WILL INTERACT WITH THE  
APPROACHING TROUGH LATER IN THE WEEK. ENERGY FROM THE TROUGH WILL  
BE SWEPT UP INTO THE LOW AND SHUNT IT NORTHEAST WHILE CREATING AN  
ELONGATED LOW PRESSURE AREA FROM EASTERN QUEBEC TO THE  
WESTERN/SOUTHERN GREAT LAKES REGION. SEVERAL SHORTWAVES WILL MOVE  
AROUND THE LOW AND THROUGH THE TROUGH DURING THIS PROCESS, WHICH  
WILL COMPLICATE TIMING AND POSITIONING OF SURFACE LOWS THAT FORM.  
MODELS ALSO DISAGREE ON HOW ENERGY FROM TROPICAL CYCLONE LIDIA  
WILL MOVE INTO THE MID-LATITUDES. THE GFS AND CMC PULL THE ENERGY  
NORTH OVER WESTERN MEXICO, BUT PREVIOUS RUNS SHOWED THE ENERGY  
POTENTIALLY BEING PULLED TOWARDS TEXAS. IF THIS ENERGY DOES GET  
PULLED EAST, IT COULD ENHANCE RAINFALL CHANCES IN THE SOUTHERN  
U.S. MID/LATE WEEK.  
 
FOR THIS FORECAST CYCLE, A DETERMINISTIC BLEND OF THE GFS, ECMWF,  
CMC, AND UKMET WAS USED FOR DAYS 3-5 (MONDAY-WEDNESDAY) WITH  
SLIGHTLY STRONGER WEIGHT ON THE ECMWF AND GFS. ENSEMBLE MEANS WERE  
ADDED TO THE FORECAST BLEND BEYOND DAY 5 TO CREATE A MIDDLE OF THE  
ROAD SOLUTION THAT SMOOTHS OUT SOME OF THE MINOR SMALLER SCALE  
DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THE DETERMINISTIC MODEL RUNS.  
 
   
..WEATHER/HAZARDS HIGHLIGHTS
 
 
THE THREAT FOR EXCESSIVE RAINFALL IS FORECAST TO REMAIN LOW MONDAY  
AND TUESDAY. THE ONLY AREA OF CONCERN IS THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST  
WHERE MOISTURE WILL STREAM ONSHORE AHEAD OF AN APPROACHING FRONTAL  
SYSTEM. LOCALLY HEAVY RAINFALL WILL BE POSSIBLE AT TIMES DUE TO  
THE COMBINATION OF SURFACE LIFT AND UPPER LEVEL DYNAMIC SUPPORT  
FOR ASCENT, AND UPSLOPE AREAS OF THE COASTAL MOUNTAIN RANGES,  
OLYMPICS, AND CASCADES WILL LIKELY SEE THE HIGHEST RAINFALL  
TOTALS. A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL AREA WAS CONSIDERED,  
BUT WAS NOT INTRODUCED FOR EITHER DAY AT THIS TIME BECAUSE THE  
SYSTEM SEEMS QUITE PROGRESSIVE, A STRETCH OF DRY WEATHER WILL  
PRECEDE THIS EVENT, AND IT IS STILL EARLY IN THE WET SEASON. THESE  
FACTORS WILL ALL LIMIT THE FLASH FLOOD POTENTIAL. MUCH OF THE  
PACIFIC NORTHWEST IS STILL EXPERIENCING DROUGHT CONDITIONS, SO  
MUCH OF THIS RAINFALL MAY BE CONSIDERED BENEFICIAL.  
 
PRECIPITATION CHANCES WILL EXPAND EAST THROUGHOUT THE WEEK AS A  
FRONTAL SYSTEM MOVES ACROSS THE NATION, REACHING THE CENTRAL U.S.  
MIDWEEK AND THE EAST COAST BY FRIDAY. SOUTHERLY WINDS AHEAD OF THE  
SYSTEM WILL PUSH MOISTURE FROM THE GULF OF MEXICO INTO THE  
SOUTHERN U.S., WHICH MAY RESULT IN LOCALLY HEAVY RAINFALL IN PARTS  
OF THE SOUTH AND SOUTHEAST WEDNESDAY THROUGH FRIDAY. MOISTURE WILL  
ALSO SPREAD UP THE EAST COAST BY FRIDAY, EXPANDING THE CHANCES OF  
HEAVY RAINFALL INTO THE NORTHEAST. DAILY CHANCES FOR SHOWERS AND  
THUNDERSTORMS WILL PERSIST OVER THE FLORIDA PENINSULA AND INCREASE  
THROUGH THE WEEK AS A FRONTAL BOUNDARY SLOWLY MOVES NORTH ACROSS  
THE STATE.  
 
TEMPERATURES WILL BE COOLER THAN NORMAL DURING THE FIRST HALF OF  
NEXT WEEK FROM THE MIDWEST TO THE NORTHEAST UNDERNEATH THE UPPER  
LOW. HIGH TEMPERATURES ARE FORECAST TO BE 10-15 DEGREES BELOW  
AVERAGE, AND OVERNIGHT LOWS WILL BE COLD ENOUGH FOR FROST TO FORM  
IN PARTS OF THE UPPER MIDWEST AND GREAT LAKES REGION. ABOVE  
AVERAGE TEMPERATURES ARE FORECAST TO START THE WEEK ACROSS MUCH OF  
THE CENTRAL U.S. AND THE WEST, BUT TEMPERATURES WILL DROP THROUGH  
MIDWEEK AS THE FRONTAL SYSTEM MOVES THROUGH.  
 
DOLAN  
 
ADDITIONAL 3-7 DAY HAZARD INFORMATION CAN BE FOUND ON THE WPC  
MEDIUM RANGE HAZARDS OUTLOOK CHART AT:  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/THREATS/THREATS.PHP  
 
WPC MEDIUM RANGE 500MB HEIGHTS, SURFACE SYSTEMS, WEATHER GRIDS,  
QUANTITATIVE PRECIPITATION FORECAST, EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OUTLOOK,  
WINTER WEATHER OUTLOOK PROBABILITIES, HEAT INDICES AND KEY  
MESSAGES ARE AT:  
 
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST500_WBG.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST_WBG_CONUS.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/5KM_GRIDS/5KM_GRIDSBODY.HTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/QPF/DAY4-7.SHTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/#PAGE=ERO  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/WWD/PWPF_D47/PWPF_MEDR.PHP?DAY=4  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/HEAT_INDEX.SHTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/#PAGE=OVW  
 

 
 

 
 
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