193  
FXUS02 KWBC 090701  
PMDEPD  
 
EXTENDED FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NWS WEATHER PREDICTION CENTER COLLEGE PARK MD  
300 AM EDT MON OCT 09 2023  
 
VALID 12Z THU OCT 12 2023 - 12Z MON OCT 16 2023  
 
...MID-LATE WEEK EXCESSIVE RAIN THREAT FOR THE MIDWEST/GREAT LAKES  
TO NORTHEAST AS WELL AS THE SOUTHEAST...  
 
   
..OVERVIEW
 
 
GUIDANCE STILL OFFERS A STRONG SIGNAL THAT A LEADING CLOSED UPPER  
LOW WILL SHIFT SLOWLY EASTWARD ACROSS EASTERN CANADA LATE WEEK AND  
EASE UNSETTLED CONDITIONS UNDER/AROUND THIS AMPLIFIED FEATURE AWAY  
FROM THE NORTHEAST. MEANWHILE, DYNAMIC UPPER TROUGH/CLOSED LOW  
ENERGIES AND SURFACE FRONTAL SYSTEM WILL WORK OUT FROM THE WEST TO  
FAVOR ENHANCED MOUNTAIN SNOWS FOR ESPECIALLY THE NORTHERN ROCKIES  
INTO THURSDAY. THIS POTENT AND WELL ORGANIZED UPPER SYSTEM WILL  
THEN STEADILY TRACK FROM THE PLAINS TO THE NORTHEAST FRIDAY  
THROUGH NEXT WEEKEND. THIS WILL FOSTER ENHANCED PRECIPITATION  
CHANCES TO SPREAD IN EARNEST FROM THE CENTRAL U.S./MIDWEST THROUGH  
THE NORTHEAST AS INFLOW MOISTURE INCREASES AHEAD OF DEEP  
CYCLOGENESIS. TO THE SOUTH, A FRONTAL BOUNDARY ENHANCED WITH  
TROPICAL MOISTURE WILL LIFT THROUGH THE GULF OF MEXICO TO INCREASE  
HEAVY PRECIPITATION CHANCES ACROSS THE CENTRAL GULF COAST AND  
FLORIDA/SOUTHEAST INTO LATER THIS WEEK BEFORE LIFTING OFF THE EAST  
COAST. NEXT UPSTREAM, THE SLOW TRANSLATION OF AN AMPLIFIED AND  
COMPLEX EASTERN PACIFIC UPPER/SURFACE SYSTEM MAY RENEW WET FLOW  
INTO THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST INTO EARLY NEXT WEEK.  
   
..GUIDANCE EVALUATION/PREDICTABILITY ASSESSMENT
 
 
MODEL AND ENSEMBLE FORECAST SPREAD REMAINS ON THE LOW SIDE THROUGH  
MEDIUM RANGE TIME SCALES IN A PATTERN WITH SEEMINGLY BETTER  
THAN AVERAGE PREDICTABILITY FOR FLOW EVOLUTION AND MAIN EMBEDDED  
WEATHER FOCUSING STORMS/SYSTEMS OVER THE NEXT WEEK IN ACTIVE FLOW.  
THE WPC PRODUCT SUITE WAS PRIMARILY DERIVED FROM A COMPOSITE BLEND  
OF WELL CLUSTERED GUIDANCE THURSDAY INTO SATURDAY FROM THE 18 UTC  
GFS/GEFS, 00 UTC ECMWF/CANADIAN/UKMET/ECMWF ENSEMBLE MEAN ALONG  
WITH THE COMPATIBLE 01 UTC NATIONAL BLEND OF MODELS. SHIFTED WPC  
GUIDANCE BLEND EMPHASIS TOWARD THE SOMEWHAT MORE AMPLIFIED/LESS  
PROGRESSIVE ECMWF/CANADIAN/ECMWF ENSEMBLE MEAN CLUSTER VERSUS THE  
GFS/GEFS BY SUNDAY/NEXT MONDAY GIVEN UPSTREAM AMPLITUDE/GUIDANCE  
TRENDS. WPC PRODUCT CONTINUITY IS WELL MAINTAINED WITH THIS  
FORECAST PLAN AND THE LATEST 00 UTC GUIDANCE OVERALL REMAINS IN  
LINE.  
   
..WEATHER/HAZARDS HIGHLIGHTS
 
 
DYNAMIC UPPER TROUGH/HEIGHT FALLS AND SURFACE SYSTEM PASSAGE  
ACROSS THE WEST INTO THURSDAY WILL FAVOR A SWATH OF AUTUMN  
MOUNTAIN SNOWS OUT FROM THE INTERMOUNTAIN WEST TO ESPECIALLY THE  
NORTHERN ROCKIES. MEANWHILE DOWNSTREAM, PRECIPITATION CHANCES WILL  
EXPAND EAST AS THIS MAIN SYSTEM WORKS INCREASINGLY INTO THE  
CENTRAL U.S. BY LATER WEEK. DEEP CYCLOGENESIS AND WRAPPING  
ANOMALOUS MOISTURE INTO A LEADING WARM FRONT LIFTING THROUGH THE  
EAST-CENTRAL U.S. WILL SHIFT FOCUS FOR EMERGING HEAVY RAINS FROM  
THE NORTH-CENTRAL PLAINS THROUGH THE MIDWEST/GREAT LAKES. WHILE  
LONGER DURATION RAINS AND AMBIENT SOILS MAY PARTIALLY LIMIT  
IMPACT, THE WPC DAY 4/THURSDAY AND DAY 5/FRIDAY EXCESSIVE RAINFALL  
OUTLOOKS (EROS) ARE NOW PLANNED TO SHOW MARGINAL AND SLIGHT RISK  
AREAS FROM THE NORTH-CENTRAL PLAINS/MIDWEST/GREAT LAKES GIVEN  
POTENTIAL FOR TRAINING AND MODEL AND ENSEMBLE SIGNALS FOR SOME  
HIGHER RAIN TOTALS. MEANWHILE, A SEPARATE WARM FRONT LIFTING  
THROUGH THE GULF OF MEXICO AND THE FLORIDA PENINSULA BRINGS A  
THREAT FOR HEAVY RAINFALL TO THE SOUTHEAST THURSDAY INTO FRIDAY.  
THIS MAY BE AIDED BY AN AREA OF LOW PRESSURE IN THE GULF OF MEXICO  
AND POSSIBLE REMNANT TROPICAL MOISTURE THAT IS NOW BEING MONITORED  
BY NHC. ERO DAY 4/5 MARGINAL RISK AREAS SHIFT OUT FROM THE CENTRAL  
GULF COAST TO THE SOUTHEAST. THESE TWO MAIN SYSTEMS MAY  
INCREASINGLY INTERACT TO SOME DEGREE TO SPREAD ENHANCED RAINFALL  
AND RUNOFF ISSUES POSSIBLE ACROSS THE EAST/NORTHEAST THIS WEEKEND  
WITH COASTAL LOW DEVELOPMENT AND DEEPENING AS A MARITIME RISK  
ALONG WITH WIDESPREAD ENHANCED BACKSIDE LOW WINDS AND POST-FRONTAL  
FALLING TEMPERATURES BACK INLAND WITH SYSTEM PASSAGE.  
 
SCHICHTEL  
 
ADDITIONAL 3-7 DAY HAZARD INFORMATION CAN BE FOUND ON THE WPC  
MEDIUM RANGE HAZARDS OUTLOOK CHART AT:  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/THREATS/THREATS.PHP  
 
WPC MEDIUM RANGE 500MB HEIGHTS, SURFACE SYSTEMS, WEATHER GRIDS,  
QUANTITATIVE PRECIPITATION FORECAST, EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OUTLOOK,  
WINTER WEATHER OUTLOOK PROBABILITIES, HEAT INDICES AND KEY  
MESSAGES ARE AT:  
 
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST500_WBG.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST_WBG_CONUS.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/5KM_GRIDS/5KM_GRIDSBODY.HTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/QPF/DAY4-7.SHTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/#PAGE=ERO  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/WWD/PWPF_D47/PWPF_MEDR.PHP?DAY=4  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/HEAT_INDEX.SHTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/#PAGE=OVW  
 

 
 

 
 
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