188  
FXUS02 KWBC 170700  
PMDEPD  
 
EXTENDED FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NWS WEATHER PREDICTION CENTER COLLEGE PARK MD  
300 AM EDT TUE OCT 17 2023  
 
VALID 12Z FRI OCT 20 2023 - 12Z TUE OCT 24 2023  
   
..OVERVIEW
 
 
FROM LATE THIS WEEK INTO THE WEEKEND, EXPECT INITIALLY STRONG  
WESTERN U.S. UPPER RIDGING TO WEAKEN SOMEWHAT AND DRIFT EASTWARD  
WHILE A VIGOROUS EASTERN U.S. TROUGH WITH POTENTIAL EMBEDDED LOW  
LIKELY SUPPORTS STRENGTHENING LOW PRESSURE ALONG THE EAST COAST  
AND POSSIBLY INTO THE CANADIAN MARITIMES. THERE ARE STILL  
IMPORTANT DETAILS TO BE RESOLVED FOR THIS SYSTEM BUT THERE IS A  
FAIR CLUSTERING OF GUIDANCE INDICATING SOME POTENTIAL FOR  
SIGNIFICANT RAINFALL AND A PERIOD OF BRISK TO STRONG WINDS OVER  
THE NORTHEAST. THEN AS THIS SYSTEM AND SUPPORTING UPPER TROUGH  
LIFT AWAY FROM THE EASTERN STATES, THE WEST SHOULD SEE A  
SIGNIFICANT PATTERN CHANGE TOWARD MORE TROUGHING. A PACIFIC  
TROUGH OF MODERATE STRENGTH ARRIVING AROUND SUNDAY WILL START THIS  
EVOLUTION, FOLLOWED BY DEEPER ENERGY EXPECTED TO DROP DOWN FROM  
NORTHWESTERN NORTH AMERICA AND THE FAR NORTHEASTERN PACIFIC. THE  
OVERALL MEAN TROUGH WILL SUPPORT EXPANDING PRECIPITATION COVERAGE  
AND A PRONOUNCED COOLER TREND ACROSS THE WESTERN HALF OF THE  
COUNTRY.  
   
..GUIDANCE EVALUATION/PREDICTABILITY ASSESSMENT
 
 
FOR THE EASTERN U.S. UPPER TROUGH AND SURFACE SYSTEM, THE FORECAST  
DEPENDS UPON SOME STILL LOWER PREDICTABILITY DETAILS FOR SHORTWAVE  
ENERGY DIGGING INTO THE EAST AS OF FRIDAY AND UPSTREAM ENERGY  
LIKELY TO FEED INTO THE OVERALL TROUGH. AMONG LATEST/RECENT  
CYCLES, THERE HAS BEEN SOME LOOSE CLUSTERING AMONG RECENT GFS  
RUNS, GEFS/EC MEANS, AND 00Z/16 ECMWF RUN THAT WOULD SUPPORT A  
DEVELOPING COASTAL WAVE NEAR THE NORTHERN MID-ATLANTIC BY SATURDAY  
AND REACHING THE VICINITY OF MAINE BY SUNDAY (THE MEANS BEING  
FASTER, GFS SLOWER, 00Z/16 ECMWF IN THE MIDDLE). THIS OCCURS  
WHILE GUIDANCE GENERALLY HINTS AT AN EMBEDDED UPPER LOW TRACKING  
SOMEWHERE OVER THE GREAT LAKES/NORTHERN MID-ATLANTIC/NEW  
ENGLAND/SOUTHERN CANADA. CMC RUNS HAVE DIFFERED FROM THE MAJORITY  
LATELY, WHILE THE 12Z/16 ECMWF SHOWED MORE DIGGING OF ENERGY IN  
THE BASE OF THE EASTERN TROUGH THAN OTHER GUIDANCE. THE NEW 00Z  
ECMWF HAS RETURNED TO A SOLUTION SOMEWHAT CLOSER TO THE MAJORITY.  
PREFERENCE WAS FOR A COMPROMISE AMONG THE MEANS/GFS/OLD 00Z ECMWF  
WHICH ALSO MAINTAINED REASONABLE CONTINUITY.  
 
ACROSS THE WEST, THE LEADING TROUGH ARRIVING BY SUNDAY CONTINUES  
TO BE FAIRLY WELL BEHAVED VIA MODEL/ENSEMBLE BLEND THOUGH THE NEW  
00Z CMC HAS RETURNED TO A SOMEWHAT MORE AMPLIFIED DEPICTION AS HAD  
BEEN ITS TENDENCY BEFORE THE 12Z/16 RUNS. TO THE SOUTH OF THIS  
TROUGH, A SIGNIFICANT WILD CARD WILL BE A TROPICAL SYSTEM EXPECTED  
TO DEVELOP OVER THE EASTERN PACIFIC AND LIFT NORTHWARD OFFSHORE  
THE WESTERN MEXICO COAST. THE COMBINATION OF FASTER NORTHWARD  
PROGRESSION AND MORE AMPLIFIED TROUGH IN THE CMC HAS LED THAT  
MODEL TO BE ON THE FAST SIDE OF INCORPORATING THE SYSTEM AND ITS  
MOISTURE. THERE IS MORE SPREAD FOR UPSTREAM TROUGHING THAT MAY  
REACH THE NORTHWEST BY NEXT TUESDAY, ALONG WITH THE CORRESPONDING  
SURFACE PATTERN. THE ENSEMBLE MEANS PROVIDE THE MOST CONSISTENT  
STARTING POINT HERE, WITH SOME ASPECTS OF GFS/CMC RUNS AND 00Z/16  
ECMWF ALSO VALID CONTRIBUTORS TO A BLEND. THE DEEPER/OFFSHORE  
DEPICTION OF THE 12Z ECMWF (ALONG WITH A STRONG SURFACE SYSTEM)  
APPEAR LESS PROBABLE.  
 
PREFERENCES ACROSS THE ABOVE REGIONS LED TO STARTING THE FORECAST  
WITH A 12Z/18Z MODEL BLEND EARLY IN THE PERIOD, BUT WITH THE  
00Z/16 ECMWF PROVIDING THE ECMWF COMPONENT INSTEAD OF THE 12Z RUN.  
THE LATTER HALF OF THE FORECAST INCORPORATED SOME 18Z GEFS/12Z  
ECENS MEANS, REACHING A TOTAL OF HALF WEIGHT BY THE END OF THE  
PERIOD.  
 
   
..WEATHER/HAZARDS HIGHLIGHTS
 
 
THE FRONT CROSSING THE EASTERN U.S. ON FRIDAY MAY PRODUCE SOME  
RAINFALL OF VARYING INTENSITY FROM THE EASTERN GREAT LAKES  
SOUTHWARD INTO THE SOUTHEAST, WITH SOME LINGERING UNCERTAINTY OVER  
BEST EMPHASIS WITHIN THIS BROAD AREA. LOW PRESSURE DEVELOPING  
NEAR THE EAST COAST MAY PRODUCE ANOTHER RELATIVE FOCUS FOR  
RAINFALL. IN BOTH CASES THE INGREDIENTS STILL DO NOT YET APPEAR  
SUFFICIENTLY FAVORABLE FOR DEPICTING ANY RISK AREAS IN THE CURRENT  
DAY 4 EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OUTLOOK THAT COVERS FRIDAY-FRIDAY NIGHT.  
DEPENDING ON THE TRACK AND TIMING OF STRENGTHENING LOW PRESSURE  
DURING THE DAY 5 PERIOD (SATURDAY-SATURDAY NIGHT), THERE IS  
SOMEWHAT MORE POTENTIAL FOR SIGNIFICANT RAINFALL OVER PARTS OF THE  
NORTHEAST AS SOME DURATION OF MOIST ATLANTIC INFLOW MAY HELP TO  
ENHANCE AMOUNTS. THE DAY 5 OUTLOOK DEPICTS A MARGINAL RISK AREA  
FROM CENTRAL/NORTHERN PARTS OF EASTERN NEW YORK STATE THROUGH  
CENTRAL AND NORTHERN NEW ENGLAND, WHICH REPRESENTS THE BEST  
OVERLAP OF HEAVIEST RAINFALL POTENTIAL (BETWEEN THE SLOW GFS AND  
FASTER ENSEMBLE MEANS). SURFACE LOW INTENSIFICATION WILL ALSO  
SUPPORT THE POTENTIAL FOR A PERIOD OF BRISK TO STRONG WINDS AT  
LEAST THROUGH SUNDAY. DEPENDING ON SYSTEM EVOLUTION/TRACK,  
HIGHEST ELEVATIONS COULD SEE A LITTLE SNOW. NEXT WEEK WILL BRING  
A DRIER TREND OVER THE EAST AS THIS SYSTEM DEPARTS.  
 
IN CONTRAST, MUCH OF THE WEST START OUT DRY LATE THIS WEEK AND  
THEN SEE EXPANDING COVERAGE OF PRECIPITATION FROM THE WEEKEND INTO  
NEXT WEEK. A LEADING UPPER TROUGH/SURFACE FRONT SHOULD BRING  
MOSTLY LIGHT RAINFALL TO THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST AROUND SATURDAY  
NIGHT, WITH THIS MOISTURE SHIFTING ACROSS THE INTERMOUNTAIN WEST  
INTO MONDAY. ADDITIONAL TROUGH ENERGY SHOULD BRING MORE  
PRECIPITATION INTO THE NORTHWEST EARLY NEXT WEEK WHILE LEADING  
MOISTURE SPREADS ACROSS THE ROCKIES AND POSSIBLY REACHING THE  
PLAINS BY NEXT TUESDAY. AT THAT TIME IT WILL BE WORTH MONITORING  
HOW MUCH EAST PACIFIC TROPICAL MOISTURE MAY GET INCORPORATED INTO  
THE MEAN FLOW. SOME OF THE PRECIPITATION SHOULD FALL AS SNOW IN  
THE HIGHER NORTHERN ROCKIES, WITH SNOW LEVELS GRADUALLY DECLINING  
WITH TIME.  
 
A BROAD AREA OF TEMPERATURES 10-20F ABOVE NORMAL WILL EXTEND  
THROUGH THE WEST AND INTO THE PLAINS ON FRIDAY. WITH TIME THIS  
WARMTH WILL MODERATE AND SHRINK IN COVERAGE AS IT REACHES PORTIONS  
OF THE PLAINS/MISSISSIPPI VALLEY BY NEXT TUESDAY, AT WHICH TIME  
THE HIGH TEMPERATURE ANOMALIES SHOULD BE ONLY IN THE PLUS 5-12F  
RANGE. LATE THIS WEEK A SCATTERING OF DAILY RECORD HIGHS WILL BE  
POSSIBLE ACROSS THE WEST, WITH RECORD WARM LOWS TENDING TO BE A  
LITTLE MORE NUMEROUS AND CONCENTRATED MORE OVER CALIFORNIA.  
DURING THE WEEKEND THE POTENTIAL FOR RECORD HIGHS SHOULD SHIFT  
INTO THE SOUTHERN ROCKIES AND TEXAS. WITH THE WEST TRANSITIONING  
TO MORE MEAN TROUGHING ALOFT FROM SUNDAY ONWARD, EXPECT THE REGION  
TO SEE A PRONOUNCED COOLING TREND, WITH HIGHS LIKELY DROPPING TO  
5-15F BELOW NORMAL BY EARLY NEXT WEEK. OVER THE EAST, THE  
NORTHEAST SHOULD SEE ABOVE NORMAL TEMPERATURES (ESPECIALLY FOR  
MORNING LOWS) LATE WEEK INTO THE WEEKEND. OTHERWISE THE AMPLIFIED  
UPPER TROUGH CROSSING AREAS EAST OF THE MISSISSIPPI RIVER WILL  
SUPPORT MULTIPLE DAYS WITH HIGHS MODERATELY BELOW NORMAL FROM LATE  
THIS WEEK INTO START OF NEXT WEEK, FOLLOWED BY A RETURN TOWARD  
NORMAL.  
 
RAUSCH  
 
ADDITIONAL 3-7 DAY HAZARD INFORMATION CAN BE FOUND ON THE WPC  
MEDIUM RANGE HAZARDS OUTLOOK CHART AT:  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/THREATS/THREATS.PHP  
 
WPC MEDIUM RANGE 500MB HEIGHTS, SURFACE SYSTEMS, WEATHER GRIDS,  
QUANTITATIVE PRECIPITATION FORECAST, EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OUTLOOK,  
WINTER WEATHER OUTLOOK PROBABILITIES, HEAT INDICES AND KEY  
MESSAGES ARE AT:  
 
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST500_WBG.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST_WBG_CONUS.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/5KM_GRIDS/5KM_GRIDSBODY.HTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/QPF/DAY4-7.SHTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/#PAGE=ERO  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/WWD/PWPF_D47/PWPF_MEDR.PHP?DAY=4  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/HEAT_INDEX.SHTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/#PAGE=OVW  
 

 
 

 
 
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