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FXUS02 KWBC 171847  
PMDEPD  
 
EXTENDED FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NWS WEATHER PREDICTION CENTER COLLEGE PARK MD  
247 PM EDT TUE OCT 17 2023  
 
VALID 12Z FRI OCT 20 2023 - 12Z TUE OCT 24 2023  
   
..OVERVIEW
 
 
A DEEP UPPER LEVEL TROUGH WILL BE POSITIONED OVER THE EASTERN U.S.  
LATE THIS WEEK INTO THIS WEEKEND, WHICH WILL SUPPORT PRECIPITATION  
CHANCES EAST OF THE MISSISSIPPI FRIDAY THROUGH SUNDAY. A STRONG  
COASTAL LOW IS FORECAST TO DEVELOP OFF THE MID-ATLANTIC ON FRIDAY  
AND TRACK NORTH ALONG THE EAST COAST OVER THE WEEKEND, WHICH MAY  
CAUSE LOCALLY HEAVY RAINFALL AND GUSTY WINDS FOR PARTS OF THE  
NORTHEAST. THE UPPER TROUGH AND SURFACE LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM WILL  
PUSH OFFSHORE EARLY NEXT WEEK, AND UPPER LEVEL TROUGHING WILL MOVE  
OVER THE WEST. THE WEATHER PATTERN WILL TREND COOLER AND WETTER  
FOR THE WEST NEXT WEEK. PRECIPITATION CHANCES WILL INCREASE ACROSS  
THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST AND ALONG THE WEST COAST ON SUNDAY, THEN  
EXPAND EAST INTO THE PLAINS AND UPPER MIDWEST THROUGH TUESDAY.  
 
   
..GUIDANCE EVALUATION/PREDICTABILITY ASSESSMENT
 
 
MODEL GUIDANCE IS IN GENERALLY GOOD AGREEMENT ON THE TIMING,  
STRENGTH, AND POSITION OF THE EASTERN U.S. TROUGH THROUGH THE  
WEEKEND, BUT THERE ARE SOME MINOR DIFFERENCES IN HOW THE  
DETERMINISTIC MODELS HANDLE SHORTWAVES MOVING AROUND THE BASE OF  
THE TROUGH. THE LATEST RUNS OF THE GFS/ECMWF/CMC/UKMET ALL SHOW A  
WAVE DEVELOPING OFF THE MID-ATLANTIC COAST ON FRIDAY AND MOVING  
NORTH UP THE EAST COAST ON SATURDAY ACCOMPANIED BY A STRONG  
COASTAL LOW AT THE SURFACE. THERE ARE SLIGHT DIFFERENCES IN THE  
TIMING/SPEED OF THE COASTAL LOW, WHICH WILL AFFECT THE FORECAST  
RAINFALL. A MAINLY DETERMINISTIC MODEL BLEND WAS USED FOR THE WPC  
FORECAST FOR FRIDAY THROUGH SUNDAY WITH SMALL AMOUNTS OF THE GEFS  
MEAN AND EC MEAN. SLIGHTLY LESS WEIGHT WAS GIVEN TO THE CMC, WHICH  
CONTINUES TO DIFFER FROM THE MAJORITY THIS AFTERNOON WITH HOW IT  
HANDLES THE WAVES OF ENERGY IN THE EASTERN TROUGH.  
 
THERE IS QUITE A BIT MORE UNCERTAINTY SURROUNDING THE TROUGHING  
OVER THE WEST NEXT WEEK. TWO SUCCESSIVE TROUGHS WILL LIKELY MOVE  
INTO THE WEST THROUGH MID-NEXT WEEK, BUT THE CMC/ECMWF/GFS  
DISAGREE ON THE SPEED OF THE SECOND TROUGH. THE ECMWF STRENGTHENS  
THE SECOND TROUGH SIGNIFICANTLY MORE THAN THE OTHER MODELS AND  
BRINGS IT INTO THE WEST THE SLOWEST, KEEPING BOTH TROUGHS  
SEPARATE. THE GFS IS ON THE OTHER END OF THE SPECTRUM, KEEPING THE  
SECOND FEATURE WEAKER AND BRINGING IT INTO THE WEST FASTER,  
ALLOWING THE TWO TROUGHS TO COMBINE QUICKLY. THE CMC SEEMS TO FALL  
BETWEEN THE GFS AND ECMWF. ADDITIONAL UNCERTAINTY IS INTRODUCED  
FROM THE POTENTIAL TROPICAL SYSTEM IN THE EASTERN PACIFIC, WHICH  
MAY AFFECT THE EVOLUTION OF THE UPPER LEVEL PATTERN AS THE UPPER  
LEVEL ENERGY MOVES INTO THE MID-LATITUDES. FOR THE FORECAST BLEND,  
ENSEMBLE MEANS WERE ASSIGNED THE HEAVIEST WEIGHT WITH SMALLER  
AMOUNTS GIVEN TO THE DETERMINISTIC MODELS TO PRODUCE A MIDDLE OF  
THE ROAD SOLUTION.  
 
   
..WEATHER/HAZARDS HIGHLIGHTS
 
 
THE FRONT CROSSING THE EASTERN U.S. ON FRIDAY WILL PRODUCE  
RAINFALL OF VARYING INTENSITY FROM THE EASTERN GREAT LAKES  
SOUTHWARD INTO THE SOUTHEAST, WITH SOME LINGERING UNCERTAINTY OVER  
BEST EMPHASIS WITHIN THIS BROAD AREA. LOW PRESSURE DEVELOPING NEAR  
THE COAST WILL LIKELY PRODUCE ANOTHER RELATIVE FOCUS FOR RAINFALL  
IN THE COASTAL MID-ATLANTIC. IN BOTH CASES THE INGREDIENTS STILL  
DO NOT YET APPEAR SUFFICIENTLY FAVORABLE FOR DEPICTING ANY RISK  
AREAS IN THE CURRENT DAY 4 EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OUTLOOK THAT COVERS  
FRIDAY-FRIDAY NIGHT. THE POTENTIAL FOR SIGNIFICANT RAINFALL SEEMS  
TO BE SLIGHTLY HIGHER ON DAY 5 (SATURDAY-SATURDAY NIGHT) AS THE  
COASTAL LOW MOVES UP THE NORTHEAST COAST. THERE IS STILL  
UNCERTAINTY IN THE LOCATION OF THE HEAVIEST RAINFALL AMOUNTS,  
WHICH WILL DEPEND ON THE TRACK, INTENSITY, AND SPEED OF THE  
COASTAL LOW. MODELS DO INDICATE THAT THERE WILL BE AT LEAST SOME  
MOIST INFLOW FROM THE ATLANTIC AHEAD OF THE SYSTEM, WHICH MAY  
ENHANCE RAINFALL AMOUNTS. THE DAY 5 OUTLOOK DEPICTS A MARGINAL  
RISK AREA FROM CENTRAL/NORTHERN PARTS OF EASTERN NEW YORK STATE  
THROUGH CENTRAL AND NORTHERN NEW ENGLAND, WHICH REPRESENTS THE  
BEST OVERLAP OF HEAVIEST RAINFALL POTENTIAL (BETWEEN THE SLOW GFS  
AND FASTER ENSEMBLE MEANS). SURFACE LOW INTENSIFICATION WILL ALSO  
SUPPORT THE POTENTIAL FOR A PERIOD OF BRISK TO STRONG WINDS AT  
LEAST THROUGH SUNDAY. DEPENDING ON SYSTEM EVOLUTION/TRACK, HIGHEST  
ELEVATIONS COULD SEE A LITTLE SNOW. NEXT WEEK WILL BRING A DRIER  
TREND OVER THE EAST AS THIS SYSTEM DEPARTS.  
 
IN CONTRAST, MUCH OF THE WEST START OUT DRY LATE THIS WEEK AND  
THEN SEE EXPANDING COVERAGE OF PRECIPITATION FROM THE WEEKEND INTO  
NEXT WEEK. A LEADING UPPER TROUGH/SURFACE FRONT SHOULD BRING  
MOSTLY LIGHT RAINFALL TO THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST AROUND SATURDAY  
NIGHT, WITH THIS MOISTURE SHIFTING ACROSS THE INTERMOUNTAIN WEST  
ON MONDAY. ADDITIONAL TROUGH ENERGY SHOULD BRING MORE  
PRECIPITATION INTO THE NORTHWEST EARLY NEXT WEEK WHILE LEADING  
MOISTURE SPREADS ACROSS THE ROCKIES AND POSSIBLY REACHING THE  
PLAINS AND UPPER MIDWEST BY TUESDAY. AT THAT TIME IT WILL BE WORTH  
MONITORING HOW MUCH EAST PACIFIC TROPICAL MOISTURE MAY GET  
INCORPORATED INTO THE MEAN FLOW. SOME OF THE PRECIPITATION SHOULD  
FALL AS SNOW IN THE HIGHER NORTHERN ROCKIES, WITH SNOW LEVELS  
GRADUALLY DECLINING WITH TIME.  
 
A BROAD AREA OF TEMPERATURES 10-20F ABOVE NORMAL WILL EXTEND  
THROUGH THE WEST AND INTO THE PLAINS ON FRIDAY. WITH TIME THIS  
WARMTH WILL MODERATE AND SHRINK IN COVERAGE AS IT REACHES PORTIONS  
OF THE PLAINS/MISSISSIPPI VALLEY BY TUESDAY, AT WHICH TIME THE  
HIGH TEMPERATURE ANOMALIES SHOULD BE ONLY IN THE PLUS 5-12F RANGE.  
LATE THIS WEEK A SCATTERING OF DAILY RECORD HIGHS WILL BE POSSIBLE  
ACROSS THE WEST, WITH RECORD WARM LOWS TENDING TO BE A LITTLE MORE  
NUMEROUS AND CONCENTRATED OVER CALIFORNIA. DURING THE WEEKEND THE  
POTENTIAL FOR RECORD HIGHS SHOULD SHIFT INTO THE SOUTHERN ROCKIES  
AND TEXAS. WITH THE WEST TRANSITIONING TO MORE MEAN TROUGHING  
ALOFT FROM SUNDAY ONWARD, EXPECT THE REGION TO SEE A PRONOUNCED  
COOLING TREND, WITH HIGHS LIKELY DROPPING TO 5-15F BELOW NORMAL BY  
EARLY NEXT WEEK. THE NORTHEAST SHOULD SEE ABOVE NORMAL  
TEMPERATURES (ESPECIALLY FOR MORNING LOWS) LATE THIS WEEK INTO THE  
WEEKEND. OTHERWISE, THE AMPLIFIED UPPER TROUGH CROSSING AREAS EAST  
OF THE MISSISSIPPI RIVER WILL SUPPORT MULTIPLE DAYS WITH HIGHS  
MODERATELY BELOW NORMAL FROM LATE THIS WEEK INTO THE START OF NEXT  
WEEK, FOLLOWED BY A RETURN TOWARD NORMAL.  
 
RAUSCH/DOLAN  
 
ADDITIONAL 3-7 DAY HAZARD INFORMATION CAN BE FOUND ON THE WPC  
MEDIUM RANGE HAZARDS OUTLOOK CHART AT:  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/THREATS/THREATS.PHP  
 
WPC MEDIUM RANGE 500MB HEIGHTS, SURFACE SYSTEMS, WEATHER GRIDS,  
QUANTITATIVE PRECIPITATION FORECAST, EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OUTLOOK,  
WINTER WEATHER OUTLOOK PROBABILITIES, HEAT INDICES AND KEY  
MESSAGES ARE AT:  
 
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST500_WBG.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST_WBG_CONUS.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/5KM_GRIDS/5KM_GRIDSBODY.HTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/QPF/DAY4-7.SHTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/#PAGE=ERO  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/WWD/PWPF_D47/PWPF_MEDR.PHP?DAY=4  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/HEAT_INDEX.SHTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/#PAGE=OVW  
 

 
 

 
 
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