569  
FXUS02 KWBC 180700  
PMDEPD  
 
EXTENDED FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NWS WEATHER PREDICTION CENTER COLLEGE PARK MD  
259 AM EDT WED OCT 18 2023  
 
VALID 12Z SAT OCT 21 2023 - 12Z WED OCT 25 2023  
   
..OVERVIEW
 
 
LATEST GUIDANCE CONTINUES TO ADVERTISE A SIGNIFICANT PATTERN  
CHANGE OVER THE LOWER 48 DURING THE PERIOD. A VIGOROUS EASTERN  
U.S. UPPER TROUGH WILL SUPPORT STRENGTHENING LOW PRESSURE THAT MAY  
BRING LOCALLY HEAVY RAIN AND GUSTY WINDS TO THE NORTHEAST THIS  
WEEKEND. SOME DEGREE OF UPPER TROUGHING WILL LINGER NEAR THE EAST  
COAST INTO EARLY NEXT WEEK BEFORE A RIDGE BUILDS INTO THE EAST. ON  
THE OTHER HAND, EXPECT MEAN TROUGHING TO REPLACE THE INITIAL RIDGE  
OVER THE WEST. A LEADING SHORTWAVE WITH POSSIBLE EMBEDDED LOW  
SHOULD MOVE INTO THE REGION AROUND SUNDAY WHILE STRONGER UPSTREAM  
ENERGY SHOULD FEED INTO THE DEVELOPING MEAN TROUGH BY  
TUESDAY-WEDNESDAY, BUT WITH INCREASING UNCERTAINTY FOR DETAILS.  
THIS PATTERN TRANSITION WOULD BRING COOLER AND WETTER WEATHER TO  
THE WEST, WITH THE PLAINS TRENDING WETTER AS WELL BY MIDWEEK,  
WHILE THE EAST WILL TREND DRIER AFTER THE WEEKEND WITH COOL  
TEMPERATURES EVENTUALLY MODERATING.  
   
..GUIDANCE EVALUATION/PREDICTABILITY ASSESSMENT
 
 
FOR THE SYSTEM AFFECTING THE NORTHEAST THIS WEEKEND, LATEST  
OPERATIONAL MODELS ARE STILL SHOWING FINER-SCALE DETAIL  
DIFFERENCES THAT HAVE ONLY MEDIUM TO LOWER PREDICTABILITY 3-4 DAYS  
OUT IN TIME AND WILL BE IMPORTANT FOR RESOLVING PRECIPITATION  
SPECIFICS IN PARTICULAR. OVER THE PAST DAY AN AVERAGE OF THE  
GFS/ECMWF RUNS AND THEIR ENSEMBLE MEANS HAS HELD UP THE BEST FOR  
THE OVERALL EVOLUTION, WITH THE DEVELOPING COASTAL WAVE OVER OR A  
LITTLE SOUTH OF SOUTHERN NEW ENGLAND AS OF EARLY SATURDAY AND  
REACHING OVER OR A LITTLE BEYOND NORTHERN/EASTERN MAINE BY EARLY  
SUNDAY. SOME RECENT GFS RUNS HAVE BEEN ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE  
SPREAD BUT ARE TRENDING CLOSER TO THE MAJORITY. UKMET/CMC RUNS  
STILL DIFFER WITH SOME DETAILS, AS THE NEW 00Z RUNS STRAY FASTER  
WITH THE SUPPORTING UPPER LOW WHICH OTHER GUIDANCE SAYS WILL STILL  
BE CLOSER TO MAINE AS OF EARLY SUNDAY. LATEST GFS RUNS ARE  
SOMEWHAT SLOWER THAN THE MAJORITY FOR THE WEAK TRAILING SYSTEM  
REACHING THE MIDWEST EARLY SATURDAY.  
 
FORECAST DETAILS HAVE BECOME MORE UNCERTAIN OVER THE WESTERN AND  
EVENTUALLY CENTRAL U.S. AFTER MOST GUIDANCE HAD BEEN SHOWING A  
FAIRLY DIFFUSE LEADING UPPER TROUGH MOVING INTO THE WEST SUNDAY  
ONWARD OVER RECENT RUNS, THE PAST DAY HAS TRENDED TOWARD A BETTER  
DEFINED EMBEDDED LOW THAT MAY REACH THE SOUTHWEST BY EARLY NEXT  
WEEK. BEYOND THIS TREND, INDIVIDUAL MODELS AND ENSEMBLES ARE  
SUGGESTING THAT PATTERN COMPLEXITIES NEAR AND SOUTH OF ALASKA FROM  
THE WEEKEND INTO NEXT WEEK ARE LEADING TO HIGH SENSITIVITY FOR THE  
ULTIMATE DETAILS OF NORTHERN STREAM ENERGY EXPECTED TO DROP INTO  
THE WESTERN U.S. BY TUESDAY-WEDNESDAY. DIFFERENCES OVER THAT  
UPSTREAM AREA OF SENSITIVITY LEAD TO THE RECENT CMC RUNS BEING THE  
MOST AGGRESSIVE WITH DIGGING ENERGY BY MIDWEEK VERSUS THE NEW 00Z  
GFS BEING AT LEAST A DAY LATER TO BRING ITS ENERGY INTO THE  
NORTHWEST. ENSEMBLE MEMBERS ARE EXPECTEDLY DIVERSE BUT THE MEANS  
AVERAGE OUT FAIRLY CLOSE TO THE INTERMEDIATE 12Z ECMWF.  
CORRESPONDING TO THESE UPSTREAM ISSUES, A WIDE SPREAD DEVELOPS FOR  
HOW QUICKLY THE LEADING TROUGH/LOW MAY EJECT NORTHEASTWARD--WITH  
MINIMAL CONFIDENCE IN A SPECIFIC SOLUTION (THOUGH TRENDS LEAN AWAY  
FROM FAST TIMING LIKE THE 12Z CMC). FINALLY, THE GUIDANCE STILL  
SIGNALS THAT THE OVERALL TROUGH MAY INCORPORATE MOISTURE FROM  
TROPICAL STORM NORA WHICH NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER ADVISORIES  
EXPECT TO STRENGTHEN TO HURRICANE STATUS AS IT TRACKS NORTHWARD  
OFFSHORE THE WESTERN MEXICO COAST.  
 
PREFERENCES BASED ON THE 12Z/18Z ARRAY OF GUIDANCE LED TO STARTING  
THE EARLY PART OF THE FORECAST WITH A BLEND OF THE 12Z/18Z GFS AND  
12Z ECMWF AND THEN SLOWING INCORPORATING MORE 18Z GEFS/12Z ECENS  
MEANS SO THAT THE MEANS HAD HALF WEIGHT BY LATE IN THE PERIOD.  
   
..WEATHER/HAZARDS HIGHLIGHTS
 
 
DURING THE DAY 4 EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OUTLOOK THAT COVERS  
SATURDAY-SATURDAY, GUIDANCE CONTINUES TO SHOW THE POTENTIAL FOR  
SOME AREAS OF SIGNIFICANT RAINFALL OVER PARTS OF THE NORTHEAST AS  
NORTHWARD MOVING LOW PRESSURE DEEPENS. SPECIFICS ARE STILL  
UNCERTAIN AND DEPEND ON FINE-SCALE DETAILS AND EXACT TIMING THAT  
WOULD AFFECT HOW LONG THE SYSTEM COULD BRING IN MOIST INFLOW FROM  
THE ATLANTIC TO ENHANCE RAINFALL AMOUNTS. THE NEW DAY 4 ERO STAYS  
UNCHANGED FROM THE PRIOR DAY 5 ISSUANCE, DEPICTING A MARGINAL RISK  
AREA FROM CENTRAL/NORTHERN PARTS OF EASTERN NEW YORK STATE THROUGH  
CENTRAL AND NORTHERN NEW ENGLAND. LATEST GUIDANCE TRENDS HAVE  
BECOME A LITTLE MORE MIXED IN THE FAR SOUTHWESTERN PART OF THIS  
AREA BUT ARE NOT EMPHATIC ENOUGH TO FAVOR ANY CHANGE YET. SURFACE  
LOW INTENSIFICATION WILL ALSO SUPPORT THE POTENTIAL FOR A PERIOD  
OF BRISK TO STRONG WINDS AT LEAST THROUGH SUNDAY. DEPENDING ON  
SYSTEM STRENGTH/TRACK, HIGHEST ELEVATIONS COULD SEE A LITTLE SNOW.  
NEXT WEEK WILL BRING A DRIER TREND OVER THE EAST AS THIS SYSTEM  
DEPARTS.  
 
THE WEST WILL SEE EXPANDING COVERAGE OF PRECIPITATION FROM THE  
WEEKEND INTO NEXT WEEK. A LEADING SYSTEM SHOULD BRING LIGHT TO  
MODERATE TOTALS TO NORTHERN AND CENTRAL LATITUDES AFTER DAYTIME  
SATURDAY, WITH THIS MOISTURE SHIFTING ACROSS THE INTERMOUNTAIN  
WEST ON MONDAY. ADDITIONAL TROUGH ENERGY SHOULD BRING MORE  
PRECIPITATION INTO THE NORTHWEST NEXT WEEK BUT DETAILS ARE  
BECOMING MORE UNCERTAIN. LEADING MOISTURE SHOULD SPREAD ACROSS THE  
ROCKIES AND REACH THE CENTRAL U.S. BY TUESDAY-WEDNESDAY. GUIDANCE  
CONTINUES TO SUGGEST THAT RAINFALL OVER THE PLAINS COULD BE  
ENHANCED BY MOISTURE ORIGINATING FROM NORA IN THE EAST PACIFIC.  
SOME OF THE PRECIPITATION OVER THE WEST SHOULD FALL AS SNOW IN THE  
HIGHER NORTHERN ROCKIES, WITH SNOW LEVELS GRADUALLY DECLINING WITH  
TIME.  
 
A BROAD AREA OF TEMPERATURES 10-20F ABOVE NORMAL WILL EXTEND FROM  
THE INTERIOR WEST INTO THE PLAINS ON SATURDAY. WITH TIME THIS  
WARMTH WILL MODERATE AND SHRINK IN COVERAGE AS IT REACHES PORTIONS  
OF THE PLAINS AND MISSISSIPPI VALLEY BY TUESDAY. ABOVE NORMAL  
HIGHS MAY EXPAND INTO THE OHIO VALLEY/GREAT LAKES BY WEDNESDAY BUT  
MOST ANOMALIES AS OF MIDWEEK SHOULD BE WITHIN 10 DEGREES OF  
AVERAGE. POTENTIAL FOR SOME RECORD WARM LOWS MAY EXTEND INTO  
SATURDAY ESPECIALLY OVER CALIFORNIA, WHILE A FEW RECORD HIGHS MAY  
BE POSSIBLE FROM ARIZONA INTO TEXAS DURING THE WEEKEND. STILL  
EXPECT THE WEST TO SEE BELOW NORMAL HIGHS EXPAND IN COVERAGE FROM  
WEST TO EAST, THOUGH LATEST TRENDS HAVE SLIGHTLY DELAYED THE  
ARRIVAL OF COLDER AIR (WEDNESDAY INSTEAD OF TUESDAY) THAT WOULD  
BRING HIGHS AT SOME LOCATIONS DOWN TO 10-20F BELOW NORMAL. THE  
NORTHEAST SHOULD SEE ABOVE NORMAL TEMPERATURES (ESPECIALLY FOR  
MORNING LOWS) INTO THE WEEKEND. OTHERWISE THE AMPLIFIED UPPER  
TROUGH CROSSING THE EAST WILL SUPPORT HIGHS UP TO 5-10F BELOW  
NORMAL FROM SATURDAY INTO EARLY NEXT WEEK. THE TROUGH'S DEPARTURE  
WILL PROMOTE A REBOUND CLOSER TO OR SLIGHTLY ABOVE NORMAL BY  
MIDWEEK.  
 
RAUSCH  
 
ADDITIONAL 3-7 DAY HAZARD INFORMATION CAN BE FOUND ON THE WPC  
MEDIUM RANGE HAZARDS OUTLOOK CHART AT:  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/THREATS/THREATS.PHP  
 
WPC MEDIUM RANGE 500MB HEIGHTS, SURFACE SYSTEMS, WEATHER GRIDS,  
QUANTITATIVE PRECIPITATION FORECAST, EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OUTLOOK,  
WINTER WEATHER OUTLOOK PROBABILITIES, HEAT INDICES AND KEY  
MESSAGES ARE AT:  
 
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST500_WBG.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST_WBG_CONUS.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/5KM_GRIDS/5KM_GRIDSBODY.HTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/QPF/DAY4-7.SHTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/#PAGE=ERO  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/WWD/PWPF_D47/PWPF_MEDR.PHP?DAY=4  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/HEAT_INDEX.SHTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/#PAGE=OVW  
 

 
 

 
 
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