904  
FXUS02 KWBC 202000  
PMDEPD  
 
EXTENDED FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NWS WEATHER PREDICTION CENTER COLLEGE PARK MD  
359 PM EDT FRI OCT 20 2023  
 
VALID 12Z MON OCT 23 2023 - 12Z FRI OCT 27 2023  
 
...MODERATE TO HEAVY RAINFALL INCREASINGLY LIKELY FOR PARTS OF THE  
SOUTHERN AND CENTRAL U.S. EARLY TO MID NEXT WEEK...  
 
   
..OVERVIEW
 
 
THE MEDIUM RANGE PERIOD BEGINS MONDAY WITH TROUGHING EXITING THE  
EAST COAST TO BE REPLACED BY A DEVELOPING UPPER RIDGE LASTING MUCH  
OF THE WEEK. OUT WEST, AN UPPER LOW IS LIKELY TO DIVE INTO THE  
SOUTHWEST/NORTHERN MEXICO BEFORE WEAKENING AND LIFTING INTO THE  
SOUTHERN U.S. LATER NEXT WEEK. ADDITIONAL ENERGY LOOKS TO MOVE  
INTO THE NORTHWEST AROUND MID-WEEK, BUT MODEL GUIDANCE CONTINUES  
TO SHOW CONSIDERABLE UNCERTAINTY IN THE TRACK AND STRENGTH OF THIS  
ENERGY AND ANY POTENTIAL INTERACTIONS WITH THE UPPER LOW OVER THE  
SOUTHWEST. REGARDLESS, IT SEEMS LIKELY REMNANT ENERGY/MOISTURE  
FROM WHAT IS CURRENTLY HURRICANE NORMA COULD STREAM NORTHWARD TO  
SPREAD POTENTIALLY HEAVY RAINFALL INTO PARTS OF THE SOUTHERN AND  
CENTRAL U.S. AHEAD OF A STRONG COLD FRONT, WHILE ON THE BACKSIDE,  
SNOW CHANCES INCREASE IN THE NORTHERN ROCKIES AND PERHAPS EVEN  
INTO PARTS OF THE NORTHERN PLAINS LATE NEXT WEEK.  
   
..GUIDANCE EVALUATION/PREDICTABILITY ASSESSMENT
 
 
THE LATEST GUIDANCE GENERALLY AGREE THAT A CUTOFF LOW WILL DIVE  
INTO THE SOUTHWEST U.S./NORTHWESTERN MEXICO AND INFLUENCE SENSIBLE  
WEATHER IMPACTS OVER THE SOUTHERN/CENTRAL PLAINS NEXT WEEK.  
HOWEVER, THE AREAS OF UNCERTAINTY REMAIN AROUND WHETHER THIS UPPER  
LOW WILL STALL OUT OR NOT AND TO WHAT EXTENT HURRICANE NORMA WILL  
PHASE WITH OR INFLUENCE IT. THE 00Z EC/CMC/UKMET WERE WELL  
CLUSTERED ON THE SLOWER SIDE OF THE TROUGH'S PROPAGATION, WHEREAS  
THE LAST SEVERAL RUNS OF THE GFS HAVE NOT ONLY BEEN INCONSISTENT  
WITH ONE ANOTHER BUT ALSO WEAKER AND MUCH MORE PROGRESSIVE WITH  
THE TROUGH. THE GFS IS ESPECIALLY FASTER WITH THE TROUGH AFTER DAY  
5 WHEN IT KICKS IT OUT INTO THE MISSISSIPPI VALLEY WHILE THE OTHER  
GUIDANCE KEEPS IT SLOWLY MOVING THROUGH THE SOUTHERN PLAINS.  
 
MEANWHILE, A NORTHERN STREAM TROUGH SET TO ENTER THE NORTHWEST  
EARLY THIS WEEK CONTINUES TO CARRY A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF  
UNCERTAINTY WITH IT, PARTICULARLY AFTER DAY 4. THE 06Z GEFS AND  
00Z CMCE TEND TO BE FASTER THAN THE 00Z ECE WITH RESPECT TO THIS  
TROUGH, BUT EACH ENSEMBLE SUITE STILL DEVELOPS A LOT OF SPREAD  
THROUGHOUT THE EVOLUTION OF THIS SYSTEM. RUN-TO-RUN, THE  
OPERATIONAL GFS APPEARS TO BE MORE CONSISTENT THAN THE EC, WITH  
SEVERAL ECE MEMBERS DEVELOPING A RIDGE OVER THE PAC NW. THIS  
SOLUTION APPEARS TO CLUSTER WELL WITH SOME CANADIAN MEMBERS AS  
WELL. STILL THOUGH, A SOLUTION FEATURING A TROUGH OF SOME SORT IS  
FAVORED OVER THE NORTHWEST AS THIS WILL LIKELY PRODUCE HEAVY SNOW  
OVER THE NORTHERN ROCKIES.  
   
..WEATHER/HAZARDS HIGHLIGHTS
 
 
THE BETTER CONSENSUS SUGGESTS MONDAY SHOULD BE RELATIVELY QUIET  
ACROSS THE COUNTRY, THOUGH RECENT RUNS OF THE GFS HAVE BEEN RATHER  
PERSISTENT IN DEPICTING THE ONSET OF LOCALLY HEAVY RAINFALL OVER  
THE SOUTHERN PLAINS AS EARLY AS MONDAY, SO THIS IS SOMETHING TO  
WATCH. STILL, GIVEN THE UNCERTAINTY, OPTED TO KEEP THE DAY 4  
EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OUTLOOK BLANK, BUT A RISK AREA MAY NEED TO BE  
INTRODUCED IN FUTURE UPDATES IF OTHER PIECES OF GUIDANCE TREND  
FASTER LIKE THE GFS. BY TUESDAY, FAVORABLE MOISTURE AND  
INSTABILITY FROM NORMA REMNANTS SHOULD BEGIN SPREADING IN EARNEST  
INTO THE SOUTHERN PLAINS, WITH AT LEAST LOCALLY HEAVY RAINFALL  
LIKELY, POSSIBLY SPREADING INTO PARTS OF THE MIDWEST ALONG THE  
STRONG FRONTAL BOUNDARY. A BROAD MARGINAL RISK FOR EXCESSIVE  
RAINFALL WAS INTRODUCED ON THE DAY 5/TUESDAY ERO, STRETCHING FROM  
EASTERN NEW MEXICO NORTHWARD INTO THE UPPER MIDWEST. IT IS  
POSSIBLE AN EMBEDDED SLIGHT RISK MAY BE NEEDED SOMEWHERE, BUT AT  
LEAST THE SOUTHERN HALF OF THIS REGION HAS BEEN VERY DRY LATELY  
AND THERE IS STILL A CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF UNCERTAINTY ON TIMING  
AND RAINFALL AMOUNTS. RAINFALL MAY LINGER OR SPREAD VERY SLOWLY  
EASTWARD LATER NEXT WEEK, BUT SHOULD TREND LIGHTER AS THE BETTER  
MOISTURE WEAKENS AND THE UPPER LOW OPENS UP AND MOVES EAST. OUT  
WEST, PROBABILITIES FOR MEANINGFUL SNOW AT HIGHER ELEVATIONS OF  
THE NORTHERN ROCKIES SHOULD START INCREASING BY MONDAY/TUESDAY,  
WITH SOME POTENTIAL FOR GENERALLY LIGHTER SNOWFALL AMOUNTS EVEN  
EXTENDING INTO PARTS OF THE NORTHERN PLAINS LATER IN THE WEEK, BUT  
HIGHLY DEPENDENT ON THE CURRENTLY VERY UNCERTAIN UPPER LEVEL  
PATTERN EVOLUTION.  
 
WELL ABOVE NORMAL TEMPERATURES WILL SPREAD FROM THE PLAINS INTO  
THE MIDWEST/NORTHEAST MONDAY-WEDNESDAY WITH THE GREATEST ANOMALIES  
(15-20 DEGREES ABOVE NORMAL) LIKELY MONDAY ACROSS THE CENTRAL  
PLAINS. TO THE EAST, MORNING LOW TEMPERATURES ON MONDAY MAY BE  
COLD ENOUGH FROM THE GREAT LAKES INTO THE APPALACHIANS TO SUPPORT  
A GENERALLY FROST THREAT FOR MANY, BUT SHOULD MODERATE THEREAFTER  
AS UPPER RIDGING BUILDS INTO THE REGION. TEMPERATURES WILL TREND  
COOLER WEDNESDAY AND BEYOND FOR MUCH OF THE WEST, BUT ESPECIALLY  
FOR THE NORTHERN ROCKIES/PLAINS WHERE DAYTIME HIGHS COULD BE 10-20  
DEGREES BELOW NORMAL BEHIND THE COLD FRONT.  
 
KEBEDE/SANTORELLI  
 
ADDITIONAL 3-7 DAY HAZARD INFORMATION CAN BE FOUND ON THE WPC  
MEDIUM RANGE HAZARDS OUTLOOK CHART AT:  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/THREATS/THREATS.PHP  
 
HAZARDS:  
- HEAVY RAIN ACROSS PORTIONS OF THE CENTRAL PLAINS, THE MIDDLE  
MISSISSIPPI VALLEY, THE LOWER MISSISSIPPI VALLEY, THE SOUTHERN  
PLAINS, AND THE UPPER MISSISSIPPI VALLEY, TUE-THU, OCT 24-OCT 26.  
- HEAVY SNOW ACROSS PORTIONS OF THE NORTHERN PLAINS AND THE  
NORTHERN ROCKIES, TUE-WED, OCT 24-OCT 25.  
- FROST/FREEZE ACROSS PORTIONS OF THE NORTHEAST, THE CENTRAL  
APPALACHIANS, THE TENNESSEE VALLEY, THE MID-ATLANTIC, THE SOUTHERN  
APPALACHIANS, THE SOUTHEAST, THE GREAT LAKES, AND THE OHIO VALLEY,  
MON-TUE, OCT 23-OCT 24.  
 
WPC MEDIUM RANGE 500MB HEIGHTS, SURFACE SYSTEMS, WEATHER GRIDS,  
QUANTITATIVE PRECIPITATION FORECAST, EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OUTLOOK,  
WINTER WEATHER OUTLOOK PROBABILITIES, HEAT INDICES AND KEY  
MESSAGES ARE AT:  
 
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST500_WBG.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST_WBG_CONUS.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/5KM_GRIDS/5KM_GRIDSBODY.HTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/QPF/DAY4-7.SHTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/#PAGE=ERO  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/WWD/PWPF_D47/PWPF_MEDR.PHP?DAY=4  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/HEAT_INDEX.SHTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/#PAGE=OVW  
 

 
 

 
 
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