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FXUS02 KWBC 210649  
PMDEPD  
 
EXTENDED FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NWS WEATHER PREDICTION CENTER COLLEGE PARK MD  
248 AM EDT SAT OCT 21 2023  
 
VALID 12Z TUE OCT 24 2023 - 12Z SAT OCT 28 2023  
 
...A HEAVY TO POSSIBLY EXCESSIVE RAINFALL THREAT INCREASINGLY  
LIKELY FOR PARTS OF THE SOUTHERN AND CENTRAL U.S. EARLY TO MID  
NEXT WEEK...  
 
   
..OVERVIEW
 
 
THE MEDIUM RANGE PERIOD BEGINS TUESDAY WITH AN UPPER LOW DIVING  
THROUGH THE SOUTHWEST INTO NORTHERN MEXICO WHICH MAY LINGER FOR A  
DAY OR TWO BEFORE WEAKENING AND LIFTING THROUGH THE CENTRAL U.S.  
MID TO LATER NEXT WEEK. ADDITIONAL ENERGY LOOKS TO MOVE INTO THE  
NORTHWEST AROUND MID-WEEK, BUT MODEL GUIDANCE CONTINUES TO SHOW  
CONSIDERABLE UNCERTAINTY IN THE TRACK AND STRENGTH OF THIS ENERGY  
AND POTENTIAL INTERACTIONS WITH THE UPPER LOW OVER THE SOUTHWEST.  
REGARDLESS, IT SEEMS LIKELY REMNANT ENERGY/MOISTURE FROM WHAT IS  
CURRENTLY HURRICANE NORMA COULD STREAM NORTHWARD TO SPREAD  
POTENTIALLY HEAVY RAINFALL INTO PARTS OF THE SOUTHERN AND CENTRAL  
U.S., WHILE ON THE BACKSIDE, SNOW CHANCES INCREASE IN THE NORTHERN  
ROCKIES AND PERHAPS EVEN INTO PARTS OF THE NORTHERN PLAINS LATE  
NEXT WEEK.  
   
..GUIDANCE EVALUATION/PREDICTABILITY ASSESSMENT
 
 
AS EARLY AS DAY 4/WEDNESDAY, THE GUIDANCE SHOWS CONSIDERABLE  
UNCERTAINTY REGARDING BOTH THE UPPER LOW OVER THE  
SOUTHWEST/NORTHERN MEXICO AND ENERGY NEAR/INTO THE NORTHWEST. THE  
GFS REMAINS THE QUICKEST AND MOST AMPLIFIED TO BRING A COMPACT  
CLOSED LOW THROUGH THE NORTHWEST ON WEDNESDAY-THURSDAY WHICH ACTS  
TO KICK THE SOUTHWEST UPPER LOW THROUGH THE SOUTHERN PLAINS MUCH  
EARLIER THAN THE REST OF THE GUIDANCE, EVENTUALLY SPINNING UP A  
NICE LOOKING CYCLONE OVER THE NORTH-CENTRAL U.S. LATER IN THE  
WEEK. THE BETTER CONSENSUS AND LATEST MODEL TRENDS HOWEVER SUGGEST  
MUCH WEAKER ENERGY MANIFESTING OVER BRITISH COLUMBIA, EVENTUALLY  
BRINGING SOME SORT OF SHORTWAVE/TROUGHING THROUGH THE NORTHWEST  
BUT NOT UNTIL FRIDAY, WHICH CAUSES THE SOUTHWEST UPPER LOW TO  
LINGER A COUPLE OF DAYS BEFORE BEING LIFTED THROUGH THE  
SOUTH-CENTRAL U.S.. EVENTUALLY BY DAY 7/SATURDAY, MODELS SORT OF  
CONVERGE ON BROAD TROUGHING ACROSS THE WEST/NORTH WITH BLOCKY  
RIDGING OVER THE EAST. ENSEMBLE GUIDANCE ALSO SHOWS SIGNIFICANT  
SPREAD IN THE DETAILS OF THESE SYSTEMS LEAVING THIS A VERY LOW  
CONFIDENCE FORECAST. A LOOK AT THE NEW 00Z RUNS (AVAILABLE AFTER  
FORECAST GENERATION TIME) GENERALLY MAINTAINS STATUS-QUO WITH NO  
MAJOR SHIFTS IN INDIVIDUAL PIECES OF GUIDANCE.  
 
THE FORECAST BLEND FOR TONIGHT DID USE A FULLY DETERMINISTIC BLEND  
DAYS 3 AND 4, BUT MORE HEAVILY WEIGHTED TOWARDS THE ECMWF. AFTER  
THIS, THE GFS WAS REPLACED WITH THE ENSEMBLE MEAN GUIDANCE WHICH  
MADE UP THE MAJORITY OF THE BLEND BY DAYS 6 AND 7. THIS MAINTAINS  
GOOD CONTINUITY WITH THE PREVIOUS WPC FORECAST AS WELL WHICH SEEMS  
PRUDENT AT THIS TIME GIVEN THE UNCERTAINTY AND RUN TO RUN  
VARIABILITY IN THE GUIDANCE.  
   
..WEATHER/HAZARDS HIGHLIGHTS
 
 
FAVORABLE MOISTURE FROM THE REMNANTS OF NORMA SHOULD BEGIN  
SPREADING IN EARNEST INTO THE SOUTHWEST/SOUTHERN PLAINS BY TUESDAY  
AHEAD OF THE UPPER LOW PARKED OVER THE SOUTHWEST/NORTHERN MEXICO,  
INTERACTING WITH A FRONTAL BOUNDARY THROUGH THE SOUTHERN PLAINS.  
MODELS ARE BEGINNING TO CONVERGE ON AN INCREASING THREAT FOR HEAVY  
RAINFALL AND DESPITE DRY ANTECEDENT CONDITIONS, COULD POSE A FLASH  
FLOOD THREAT GIVEN THE TROPICAL MOISTURE CONNECTION AND POTENTIAL  
FOR TRAINING ALONG THE THE FRONT. GIVEN THIS, OPTED TO INTRODUCE A  
SLIGHT RISK TO THE DAY 4/TUESDAY EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OUTLOOK ACROSS  
PARTS OF NORTH TEXAS INTO WEST-CENTRAL OKLAHOMA. MODEST RAINFALL  
MAY ALSO SPREAD NORTHWARD INTO THE CENTRAL PLAINS/MIDWEST AHEAD OF  
A STRONGER COLD FRONT THROUGH THE REGION AND THERE IS A MARGINAL  
RISK ACROSS THIS REGION ON THE ERO TO COVER THIS POTENTIAL.  
RAINFALL SHOULD LINGER ACROSS THE SOUTHWEST/SOUTHERN  
PLAINS/MID-MISSISSIPPI VALLEY INTO WEDNESDAY AS WELL, WITH SOME  
HEAVY RAINFALL POTENTIAL, BUT UNCERTAINTY IN AMOUNTS AND LOCATION  
OF THE HIGHEST AMOUNTS IS TOO UNCERTAIN FOR ANYTHING MORE THAN A  
MARGINAL ON THE DAY 5 ERO AT THIS TIME. RAINFALL MAY TREND LIGHTER  
AND SLIGHTLY EASTWARD LATER IN THE WEEK AS THE UPPER LOW BEGINS TO  
WEAKEN ACROSS THE SOUTH-CENTRAL U.S.. OUT WEST, PROBABILITIES FOR  
MEANINGFUL SNOW AT HIGHER ELEVATIONS OF THE NORTHERN ROCKIES  
SHOULD START INCREASING BY EARLY IN THE WEEK, WITH SOME POTENTIAL  
FOR GENERALLY LIGHT BUT ACCUMULATING SNOWFALL EVEN EXTENDING INTO  
PARTS OF THE NORTHERN PLAINS LATER IN THE WEEK, BUT HIGHLY  
DEPENDENT ON THE CURRENTLY VERY UNCERTAIN UPPER LEVEL AND SURFACE  
PATTERN EVOLUTION.  
 
WELL ABOVE NORMAL TEMPERATURES WILL SPREAD FROM THE MIDWEST INTO  
THE EAST TUESDAY-THURSDAY WITH THE GREATEST ANOMALIES (15-20  
DEGREES ABOVE NORMAL) LIKELY TUESDAY ACROSS PARTS OF THE MIDWEST.  
IN THE NORTHEAST, MORNING LOW TEMPERATURES ON TUESDAY MAY BE COLD  
ENOUGH TO SUPPORT A FROST/FREEZE THREAT, BUT SHOULD MODERATE  
THEREAFTER AS UPPER RIDGING BUILDS INTO THE REGION. TEMPERATURES  
WILL TREND COOLER WEDNESDAY AND BEYOND FOR THE NORTHERN  
ROCKIES/PLAINS WHERE DAYTIME HIGHS COULD BE 10-20 DEGREES BELOW  
NORMAL BEHIND THE COLD FRONT.  
 
SANTORELLI  
 
ADDITIONAL 3-7 DAY HAZARD INFORMATION CAN BE FOUND ON THE WPC  
MEDIUM RANGE HAZARDS OUTLOOK CHART AT:  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/THREATS/THREATS.PHP  
 
WPC MEDIUM RANGE 500MB HEIGHTS, SURFACE SYSTEMS, WEATHER GRIDS,  
QUANTITATIVE PRECIPITATION FORECAST, EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OUTLOOK,  
WINTER WEATHER OUTLOOK PROBABILITIES, HEAT INDICES AND KEY  
MESSAGES ARE AT:  
 
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST500_WBG.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST_WBG_CONUS.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/5KM_GRIDS/5KM_GRIDSBODY.HTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/QPF/DAY4-7.SHTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/#PAGE=ERO  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/WWD/PWPF_D47/PWPF_MEDR.PHP?DAY=4  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/HEAT_INDEX.SHTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/#PAGE=OVW  
 

 
 

 
 
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