533  
FXUS02 KWBC 211816  
PMDEPD  
 
EXTENDED FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NWS WEATHER PREDICTION CENTER COLLEGE PARK MD  
216 PM EDT SAT OCT 21 2023  
 
VALID 12Z TUE OCT 24 2023 - 12Z SAT OCT 28 2023  
 
...A HEAVY TO POSSIBLY EXCESSIVE RAINFALL THREAT INCREASINGLY  
LIKELY FOR PARTS OF THE SOUTHERN AND CENTRAL U.S. EARLY TO MID  
NEXT WEEK...  
 
   
..OVERVIEW
 
 
THE MEDIUM RANGE PERIOD BEGINS TUESDAY WITH AN UPPER LOW DIVING  
THROUGH THE SOUTHWEST INTO NORTHERN MEXICO WHICH MAY LINGER FOR A  
DAY OR TWO BEFORE WEAKENING AND LIFTING THROUGH THE CENTRAL U.S.  
MID TO LATER NEXT WEEK. ADDITIONAL ENERGY LOOKS TO MOVE INTO THE  
NORTHWEST AROUND MID-WEEK, BUT MODEL GUIDANCE CONTINUES TO SHOW  
CONSIDERABLE UNCERTAINTY IN THE TRACK AND STRENGTH OF THIS ENERGY  
AND POTENTIAL INTERACTIONS WITH THE UPPER LOW OVER THE SOUTHWEST.  
REGARDLESS, IT SEEMS LIKELY REMNANT ENERGY/MOISTURE FROM WHAT IS  
CURRENTLY HURRICANE NORMA COULD STREAM NORTHWARD TO SPREAD  
POTENTIALLY HEAVY RAINFALL INTO PARTS OF THE SOUTHERN AND CENTRAL  
U.S., WHILE ON THE BACKSIDE, SNOW CHANCES INCREASE IN THE NORTHERN  
ROCKIES AND PERHAPS EVEN INTO PARTS OF THE NORTHERN PLAINS LATE  
NEXT WEEK.  
   
..GUIDANCE EVALUATION/PREDICTABILITY ASSESSMENT
 
 
THE NON-GFS GUIDANCE (00Z EC/UKMET/CMC) CONTINUE TO AGREE ON THE  
SYNOPTIC EVOLUTION OF THE SOUTHERN STREAM LOW THROUGH DAY 5. THE  
OPERATIONAL 00Z EC APPEARS TO BE THE ONLY MODEL TO SUGGEST THAT  
REMNANTS OF HURRICANE NORMA WILL PHASE WITH THE UPPER LOW OVER  
NORTHERN MEXICO. THE OTHER MODELS HAVE THE ENERGY AND MOISTURE  
ASSOCIATED WITH NORMA STREAMING OUT AHEAD OF THE UPPER LOW. THIS  
MAY EXPLAIN WHY THE EURO BASED GUIDANCE IS LESS PROGRESSIVE AND  
LIGHTER WITH QPF AMOUNTS THAN THE OTHERS. THE 00Z OPERATIONAL  
CANADIAN IS THE ONLY MODEL TO KEEP THE UPPER TROUGH OVER NORTHERN  
MEXICO BY DAY 6, WHILE THE EC KICKS THE ENERGY OUT OVER THE PLAINS  
AND MISSISSIPPI VALLEY.  
 
THE GREATEST UNCERTAINTY DURING THE MEDIUM RANGE LIES OVER THE  
NORTHERN TIER, WHERE A TROUGH OR RIDGE MAY DEVELOP. ALL OF THE  
CURRENT GUIDANCE AGREES ON AN EMERGING UPPER TROUGH DIVING THROUGH  
THE ALASKAN PANHANDLE AND COASTAL BRITISH COLUMBIA EARLY NEXT  
WEEK. THIS SYSTEM IS FORECAST TO PRODUCE HEAVY SNOW OVER THE  
NORTHERN ROCKIES NEXT WEEK. THE 00Z EC IS MUCH SLOWER THAN THE  
OTHER MODELS WITH RESPECT TO THE EVOLUTION OF THIS TROUGH. THE  
OPERATIONAL 06Z GFS/GEFS AMPLIFIES IT OVER THE NORTHWEST CONUS BY  
DAY 4 WHILE THE REST OF THE GUIDANCE INCLUDING THE ENSEMBLE MEANS  
SUGGEST A MUCH MORE MUTED/ZONAL PATTERN EMERGING OVER THE REGION.  
THE ENSEMBLE MEANS AREN'T MUCH HELP SINCE THEY THEMSELVES HAVE TO  
CONTEND WITH SIGNIFICANT SPREAD. THUS, A MULTI-MODEL BLEND  
CONSISTING OF THE NON-GFS OPERATIONAL GUIDANCE WERE FAVORED IN THE  
BLEND THROUGH DAY 5 WHEN THE 00Z ECE AND CMCE WERE INTRODUCED. THE  
ENSEMBLE MEANS WERE EXCLUSIVELY USED ON DAYS 6 AND 7 TO ACCOUNT  
FOR THE VAST DISPERSION IN DETERMINISTIC SOLUTIONS ACROSS THE  
LOWER 48.  
 
   
..WEATHER/HAZARDS HIGHLIGHTS
 
 
FAVORABLE MOISTURE FROM THE REMNANTS OF NORMA SHOULD BEGIN  
SPREADING IN EARNEST INTO THE SOUTHWEST/SOUTHERN PLAINS BY TUESDAY  
AHEAD OF THE UPPER LOW PARKED OVER THE SOUTHWEST/NORTHERN MEXICO,  
INTERACTING WITH A FRONTAL BOUNDARY THROUGH THE SOUTHERN PLAINS.  
MODELS ARE BEGINNING TO CONVERGE ON AN INCREASING THREAT FOR HEAVY  
RAINFALL AND DESPITE DRY ANTECEDENT CONDITIONS, COULD POSE A FLASH  
FLOOD THREAT GIVEN THE TROPICAL MOISTURE CONNECTION AND POTENTIAL  
FOR TRAINING ALONG THE THE FRONT. GIVEN THIS, OPTED TO INTRODUCE A  
SLIGHT RISK TO THE DAY 4/TUESDAY EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OUTLOOK ACROSS  
PARTS OF NORTH TEXAS INTO WEST-CENTRAL OKLAHOMA. MODEST RAINFALL  
MAY ALSO SPREAD NORTHWARD INTO THE CENTRAL PLAINS/MIDWEST AHEAD OF  
A STRONGER COLD FRONT THROUGH THE REGION AND THERE IS A MARGINAL  
RISK ACROSS THIS REGION ON THE ERO TO COVER THIS POTENTIAL.  
RAINFALL SHOULD LINGER ACROSS THE SOUTHWEST/SOUTHERN  
PLAINS/MID-MISSISSIPPI VALLEY INTO WEDNESDAY AS WELL, WITH SOME  
HEAVY RAINFALL POTENTIAL, BUT UNCERTAINTY IN AMOUNTS AND LOCATION  
OF THE HIGHEST AMOUNTS IS TOO UNCERTAIN FOR ANYTHING MORE THAN A  
MARGINAL ON THE DAY 5 ERO AT THIS TIME. RAINFALL MAY TREND LIGHTER  
AND SLIGHTLY EASTWARD LATER IN THE WEEK AS THE UPPER LOW BEGINS TO  
WEAKEN ACROSS THE SOUTH-CENTRAL U.S.. OUT WEST, PROBABILITIES FOR  
MEANINGFUL SNOW AT HIGHER ELEVATIONS OF THE NORTHERN ROCKIES  
SHOULD START INCREASING BY EARLY IN THE WEEK, WITH SOME POTENTIAL  
FOR GENERALLY LIGHT BUT ACCUMULATING SNOWFALL EVEN EXTENDING INTO  
PARTS OF THE NORTHERN PLAINS LATER IN THE WEEK, BUT HIGHLY  
DEPENDENT ON THE CURRENTLY VERY UNCERTAIN UPPER LEVEL AND SURFACE  
PATTERN EVOLUTION.  
 
WELL ABOVE NORMAL TEMPERATURES WILL SPREAD FROM THE MIDWEST INTO  
THE EAST TUESDAY-THURSDAY WITH THE GREATEST ANOMALIES (15-20  
DEGREES ABOVE NORMAL) LIKELY TUESDAY ACROSS PARTS OF THE MIDWEST.  
IN THE NORTHEAST, MORNING LOW TEMPERATURES ON TUESDAY MAY BE COLD  
ENOUGH TO SUPPORT A FROST/FREEZE THREAT, BUT SHOULD MODERATE  
THEREAFTER AS UPPER RIDGING BUILDS INTO THE REGION. TEMPERATURES  
WILL TREND COOLER WEDNESDAY AND BEYOND FOR THE NORTHERN  
ROCKIES/PLAINS WHERE DAYTIME HIGHS COULD BE 10-20 DEGREES BELOW  
NORMAL BEHIND THE COLD FRONT.  
 
KEBEDE/SANTORELLI  
 
ADDITIONAL 3-7 DAY HAZARD INFORMATION CAN BE FOUND ON THE WPC  
MEDIUM RANGE HAZARDS OUTLOOK CHART AT:  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/THREATS/THREATS.PHP  
 
WPC MEDIUM RANGE 500MB HEIGHTS, SURFACE SYSTEMS, WEATHER GRIDS,  
QUANTITATIVE PRECIPITATION FORECAST, EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OUTLOOK,  
WINTER WEATHER OUTLOOK PROBABILITIES, HEAT INDICES AND KEY  
MESSAGES ARE AT:  
 
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST500_WBG.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST_WBG_CONUS.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/5KM_GRIDS/5KM_GRIDSBODY.HTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/QPF/DAY4-7.SHTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/#PAGE=ERO  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/WWD/PWPF_D47/PWPF_MEDR.PHP?DAY=4  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/HEAT_INDEX.SHTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/#PAGE=OVW  
 

 
 

 
 
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