822  
FXUS02 KWBC 220656  
PMDEPD  
 
EXTENDED FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NWS WEATHER PREDICTION CENTER COLLEGE PARK MD  
255 AM EDT SUN OCT 22 2023  
 
VALID 12Z WED OCT 25 2023 - 12Z SUN OCT 29 2023  
 
...A HEAVY TO EXCESSIVE RAINFALL THREAT CONTINUING INTO WEDNESDAY  
FOR PARTS OF THE SOUTHERN AND CENTRAL U.S....  
 
   
..OVERVIEW
 
 
THE MEDIUM RANGE PERIOD BEGINS WEDNESDAY WITH AN UPPER LOW NEAR  
THE SOUTHWEST/NORTHERN MEXICO WHICH SHOULD WEAKEN AND LIFT  
NORTHEASTWARD LATE IN THE WEEK IN RESPONSE TO ENERGY DROPPING  
THROUGH THE NORTHWEST, WHICH GUIDANCE CONTINUES TO SHOW  
SIGNIFICANT UNCERTAINTY ON, PARTICULARLY AS IT REACHES THE  
PLAINS/ROCKIES THURSDAY-FRIDAY. REGARDLESS, REMNANT ENERGY FROM  
WHAT IS CURRENTLY TROPICAL STORM NORMA LOOKS TO INTERACT WITH GULF  
OF MEXICO MOISTURE AND THE SOUTHWEST UPPER LOW TO SPREAD HEAVY TO  
EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PARTS OF THE SOUTHERN AND CENTRAL  
PLAINS. TO THE NORTH, ACCUMULATING SNOWS ARE LIKELY IN THE  
NORTHERN ROCKIES ON WEDNESDAY, WITH PARTS OF THE HIGH PLAINS/NORTH  
DAKOTA POSSIBLY SEEING THEIR FIRST ACCUMULATING SNOW EVENT OF THE  
SEASON TOO BY THURSDAY. ANOTHER SHORTWAVE IS FORECAST TO DROP INTO  
THE NORTHWEST NEXT FRIDAY, WITH MEAN AMPLIFIED TROUGHING LIKELY  
ACROSS THE WEST NEXT WEEKEND, AS A SOMEWHAT BLOCKY RIDGE SETS UP  
OVER THE SOUTHEAST.  
 
   
..GUIDANCE EVALUATION/PREDICTABILITY ASSESSMENT
 
 
THE GFS BASED SOLUTIONS (INCLUDING ENSEMBLES) HAVE BEEN PERSISTENT  
THE PAST FEW DAYS IN SHOWING A MUCH QUICKER EJECTION OF SOUTHWEST  
U.S. ENERGY/UPPER LOW AND MUCH MORE AMPLIFIED/FASTER SHORTWAVE  
ENERGY THROUGH THE WEST ON WEDNESDAY. THIS EVENTUALLY SPINS UP A  
RATHER STRONG SURFACE LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM ACROSS THE CENTRAL U.S.  
RESULTING IN A DECENT SNOWSTORM FOR THE NORTHERN ROCKIES/PLAINS.  
WPC FORECASTS HAVE SIDED MORE WITH THE BETTER CONSENSUS OF A  
SLOWER/WEAKER EVOLUTION CLOSEST TO THE ECMWF, CMC, AND UKMET AND  
THERE IS NO REASON TO GO AGAINST CONTINUITY AT THIS POINT, BUT IT  
IS INTERESTING HOW CONSISTENT GFS SOLUTIONS HAVE BEEN. THIS  
CONTINUES TO BE A LOW CONFIDENCE FORECAST AND LIKELY WILL TAKE  
UNTIL THE SHORT RANGE PERIOD TO FULLY RESOLVE DETAILS.  
 
THERE IS ALSO A LOT OF UNCERTAINTY LATER IN THE WEEK WITH THE NEXT  
SHORTWAVE MOVING INTO THE NORTHWEST. THE ECMWF AND CMC BOTH SHOW A  
CLOSED LOW INTO THE REGION, WHILE THE GFS IS MUCH WEAKER/MORE OPEN  
(LIKELY IN RESPONSE TO THE STRONGER SYSTEM DOWNSTREAM). BOTH THE  
ECMWF AND CMC ARE SHOWING A DECENT SURFACE LOW ACROSS THE NORTHERN  
U.S. NEXT WEEKEND WHILE THE GFS AND ENSEMBLE MEANS ARE LESS  
ENTHUSIASTIC.  
 
THE WPC FORECAST USED A ECMWF BASED BLEND FOR DAYS 3-5, WITH  
SMALLER AMOUNTS OF THE DETERMINISTIC MODELS. TRENDED QUICKLY  
TOWARDS A VAST MAJORITY ENSEMBLE MEAN BASED FOR DAYS 6 AND 7 GIVEN  
THE GREAT UNCERTAINTY. SOME MINOR ECMWF WAS CONTINUED THROUGH DAY  
7 THOUGH JUST FOR SOME ADDED SYSTEM DEFINITION.  
 
   
..WEATHER/HAZARDS HIGHLIGHTS
 
 
ANOTHER DAY OF HEAVY RAINS ARE LIKELY WEDNESDAY ASSOCIATED WITH  
NORMA REMNANTS AND HIGHLY ANOMALOUS MOISTURE INTERACTING WITH A  
STATIONARY BOUNDARY ACROSS THE SOUTHERN PLAINS. GIVEN THE SET UP,  
AND HEAVY RAINFALL LIKELY ON TUESDAY AS WELL, A SIZABLE SLIGHT  
RISK WAS ADDED TO THE NEW DAY 4/WEDNESDAY EXCESSIVE RAINFALL  
OUTLOOK SPANNING ACROSS CENTRAL TEXAS INTO OKLAHOMA. HEAVY  
RAINFALL IS POSSIBLE FARTHER NORTH ALONG ANOTHER COLD FRONT MOVING  
THROUGH THE NORTH-CENTRAL U.S., BUT WITH MORE UNCERTAINTY ON  
AMOUNTS/LOCATION. A MARGINAL RISK WAS MAINTAINED INTO THE UPPER  
MIDWEST FOR DAY 4. ON DAY 5/THURSDAY, RAINFALL SHOULD TREND  
LIGHTER ACROSS THE SOUTHERN PLAINS BUT MAY CONTINUE ACROSS THE  
UPPER MIDWEST/GREAT LAKES REGION, SO A MARGINAL RISK WAS INCLUDED  
ON TONIGHTS DAY 5 ERO.  
 
MEANWHILE, MEANINGFUL SNOW APPEARS LIKELY ACROSS THE NORTHERN  
ROCKIES ON WEDNESDAY, WITH INCREASING POTENTIAL FOR ACCUMULATING  
SNOWS EVEN INTENDING INTO THE LOWER ELEVATIONS AND THE NORTHERN  
PLAINS. EXACT AMOUNTS AND RESULTING IMPACTS ARE STILL VERY  
UNCERTAIN AND HIGHLY DEPENDENT ON THE EVENTUAL UPPER LEVEL AND  
SURFACE PATTERN EVOLUTION. ON WEDNESDAY/THURSDAY, PRECIPITATION IS  
LIKELY ACROSS THE NORTHWEST AS THE NEXT SHORTWAVE MOVES TOWARDS  
THE REGION, AND THIS MOISTURE SHOULD SPREAD EAST WITH TIME.  
ADDITIONAL ROUNDS OF AT LEAST LOCALLY HEAVY RAINS ARE POSSIBLE  
ACROSS THE CENTRAL U.S. AGAIN BY NEXT WEEKEND WITH SNOW POTENTIAL  
WELL NORTH STILL VERY UNCERTAIN BUT WORTH WATCHING.  
 
WELL ABOVE NORMAL TEMPERATURES WILL SPREAD FROM THE  
MIDWEST/SOUTHERN U.S. INTO THE EAST WEDNESDAY-FRIDAY AND BEYOND  
UNDERNEATH A BUILDING RIDGE. MEANWHILE, TROUGHING ACROSS THE WEST  
WILL CONTINUE A PROLONGED PERIOD OF BELOW NORMAL TEMPERATURES,  
WITH THE GREATEST DAYTIME HIGH ANOMALIES (20-30 DEGREES BELOW  
NORMAL) EXPANDING FROM THE NORTHERN ROCKIES INTO THE NORTHERN  
PLAINS BY NEXT WEEKEND.  
 
SANTORELLI  
 
ADDITIONAL 3-7 DAY HAZARD INFORMATION CAN BE FOUND ON THE WPC  
MEDIUM RANGE HAZARDS OUTLOOK CHART AT:  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/THREATS/THREATS.PHP  
 
WPC MEDIUM RANGE 500MB HEIGHTS, SURFACE SYSTEMS, WEATHER GRIDS,  
QUANTITATIVE PRECIPITATION FORECAST, EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OUTLOOK,  
WINTER WEATHER OUTLOOK PROBABILITIES, HEAT INDICES AND KEY  
MESSAGES ARE AT:  
 
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST500_WBG.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST_WBG_CONUS.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/5KM_GRIDS/5KM_GRIDSBODY.HTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/QPF/DAY4-7.SHTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/#PAGE=ERO  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/WWD/PWPF_D47/PWPF_MEDR.PHP?DAY=4  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/HEAT_INDEX.SHTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/#PAGE=OVW  
 

 
 

 
 
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