899  
FXUS02 KWBC 221910  
PMDEPD  
 
EXTENDED FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NWS WEATHER PREDICTION CENTER COLLEGE PARK MD  
310 PM EDT SUN OCT 22 2023  
 
VALID 12Z WED OCT 25 2023 - 12Z SUN OCT 29 2023  
 
...A HEAVY TO EXCESSIVE RAINFALL THREAT CONTINUING INTO WEDNESDAY  
FOR PARTS OF THE SOUTHERN AND CENTRAL U.S....  
 
   
..OVERVIEW
 
 
THE MEDIUM RANGE PERIOD BEGINS WEDNESDAY WITH AN UPPER LOW NEAR  
THE SOUTHWEST/NORTHERN MEXICO WHICH SHOULD WEAKEN AND LIFT  
NORTHEASTWARD LATE IN THE WEEK IN RESPONSE TO ENERGY DROPPING  
THROUGH THE NORTHWEST, WHICH GUIDANCE CONTINUES TO SHOW  
SIGNIFICANT UNCERTAINTY ON, PARTICULARLY AS IT REACHES THE  
PLAINS/ROCKIES THURSDAY-FRIDAY. REGARDLESS, REMNANT ENERGY FROM  
WHAT IS CURRENTLY TROPICAL STORM NORMA LOOKS TO INTERACT WITH GULF  
OF MEXICO MOISTURE AND THE SOUTHWEST UPPER LOW TO SPREAD HEAVY TO  
EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PARTS OF THE SOUTHERN AND CENTRAL  
PLAINS. TO THE NORTH, ACCUMULATING SNOWS ARE LIKELY IN THE  
NORTHERN ROCKIES ON WEDNESDAY, WITH PARTS OF THE HIGH PLAINS/NORTH  
DAKOTA POSSIBLY SEEING THEIR FIRST ACCUMULATING SNOW EVENT OF THE  
SEASON TOO BY THURSDAY. ANOTHER SHORTWAVE IS FORECAST TO DROP INTO  
THE NORTHWEST NEXT FRIDAY, WITH MEAN AMPLIFIED TROUGHING LIKELY  
ACROSS THE WEST NEXT WEEKEND, AS A SOMEWHAT BLOCKY RIDGE SETS UP  
OVER THE SOUTHEAST.  
 
   
..GUIDANCE EVALUATION/PREDICTABILITY ASSESSMENT
 
 
THE LATEST RUN OF MODEL GUIDANCE CONTINUES TO DEPICT THE GFS  
FASTER IN EJECTING AN UPPER LOW/SOUTHWEST ENERGY ALONG WITH A MUCH  
MORE AMPLIFIED/FASTER SHORTWAVE ENERGY THROUGH THE WEST ON  
WEDNESDAY. THIS SOLUTION FAVORS THE DEVELOPMENT OF A ROBUST  
SURFACE LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM OVER THE CENTRAL PLAINS THAT TRACKS A  
SNOWSTORM ACROSS THE NORTHERN ROCKIES AND NORTHERN PLAINS. THERE  
WAS BETTER CLUSTERING WITH THE ECWMF, CMC, UKMET AND THE ENSEMBLE  
MEANS WHEN COMPARED TO THE GFS AND GIVEN CONTINUITY UTILIZED A  
COMBINATION OF THESE SOLUTIONS, MAINTAINED A SIMILAR APPROACH FOR  
THIS FORECAST.  
THIS CONTINUES TO BE A LOW CONFIDENCE FORECAST AND LIKELY WILL  
TAKE UNTIL THE SHORT RANGE PERIOD TO FULLY RESOLVE DETAILS.  
 
INCREASED UNCERTAINTY REMAINS IN REGARDS TO THE NEXT SHORTWAVE  
ACROSS THE NORTHWEST. THE ECMWF AND CMC PERSIST IN SHOWING A  
CLOSED LOW IN THE REGION, WHILE THE GFS IS MUCH WEAKER/MORE OPEN  
(LIKELY IN RESPONSE TO THE STRONGER SYSTEM DOWNSTREAM). BOTH THE  
ECMWF AND CMC ARE SHOWING A DECENT SURFACE LOW ACROSS THE NORTHERN  
U.S. NEXT WEEKEND WHILE THE GFS AND ENSEMBLE MEANS ARE LESS  
ENTHUSIASTIC.  
 
THE WPC FORECAST USED A ECMWF BASED BLEND FOR DAYS 3-5, WITH  
SMALLER AMOUNTS OF THE DETERMINISTIC MODELS. TRENDED QUICKLY  
TOWARDS A VAST MAJORITY ENSEMBLE MEAN BASED FOR DAYS 6 AND 7 GIVEN  
THE GREAT UNCERTAINTY. SOME MINOR ECMWF WAS CONTINUED THROUGH DAY  
7 THOUGH JUST FOR SOME ADDED SYSTEM DEFINITION.  
 
   
..WEATHER/HAZARDS HIGHLIGHTS
 
 
REMNANT MOISTURE FROM WHAT IS CURRENTLY TROPICAL STORM NORMA ALONG  
WITH HIGHLY ANOMALOUS MOISTURE INTERACTING WITH A STATIONARY  
FRONTAL BOUNDARY WILL LEAD TO ANOTHER WET PERIOD ACROSS THE  
SOUTHERN PLAINS, INCREASING THE RISK FOR HEAVY TO EXCESSIVE  
RAINFALL. THE INHERITED DAY 4 SLIGHT RISK AREA WAS EXPANDED  
WEST/NORTH ACROSS TEXAS, OKLAHOMA AND INTO SOUTH KANSAS AND  
EASTWARD ACROSS CENTRAL TEXAS. THE MARGINAL RISK AREA ALSO WAS  
EXPANDED WESTWARD ACROSS PARTS OF WEST TEXAS AND THE TEXAS  
PANHANDLE. A HEAVY RAINFALL IS POSSIBLE FARTHER NORTH ALONG  
ANOTHER COLD FRONT MOVING THROUGH THE NORTH-CENTRAL U.S., BUT WITH  
MORE UNCERTAINTY ON AMOUNTS/LOCATION AND IS COVERED BY THE  
NORTHERN EXTEND OF THE MARGINAL RISK AREA. ON DAY 5/THURSDAY,  
RAINFALL SHOULD TREND LIGHTER ACROSS THE SOUTHERN PLAINS BUT MAY  
CONTINUE ACROSS THE UPPER MIDWEST/GREAT LAKES REGION. THE MARGINAL  
RISK FOR DAY 5 WAS MAINTAINED ALONG WITH AN EXTENSION ALONG THE  
SOUTH/SOUTHWEST BOUNDS INTO WESTERN MISSOURI/EASTERN KANSAS.  
 
MEANWHILE, MEANINGFUL SNOW APPEARS LIKELY ACROSS THE NORTHERN  
ROCKIES ON WEDNESDAY, WITH INCREASING POTENTIAL FOR ACCUMULATING  
SNOWS EVEN INTENDING INTO THE LOWER ELEVATIONS AND THE NORTHERN  
PLAINS. TOTAL ACCUMULATIONS AND EXACT LOCATION OF THE HIGHEST  
AMOUNTS REMAIN UNCERTAIN AS IT WILL BE HIGHLY DEPENDENT ON THE  
EVENTUAL UPPER LEVEL AND SURFACE PATTERN EVOLUTION. ON  
WEDNESDAY/THURSDAY, PRECIPITATION IS LIKELY ACROSS THE NORTHWEST  
AS THE NEXT SHORTWAVE MOVES TOWARDS THE REGION, AND THIS MOISTURE  
SHOULD SPREAD EAST WITH TIME. ADDITIONAL ROUNDS OF AT LEAST  
LOCALLY HEAVY RAINS ARE POSSIBLE ACROSS THE CENTRAL U.S. AGAIN BY  
NEXT WEEKEND WITH SNOW POTENTIAL WELL NORTH STILL VERY UNCERTAIN  
BUT WORTH WATCHING.  
 
WELL ABOVE NORMAL TEMPERATURES WILL SPREAD FROM THE  
MIDWEST/SOUTHERN U.S. INTO THE EAST WEDNESDAY-FRIDAY AND BEYOND  
UNDERNEATH A BUILDING RIDGE. MEANWHILE, TROUGHING ACROSS THE WEST  
WILL CONTINUE A PROLONGED PERIOD OF BELOW NORMAL TEMPERATURES,  
WITH THE GREATEST DAYTIME HIGH ANOMALIES (20-30 DEGREES BELOW  
NORMAL) EXPANDING FROM THE NORTHERN ROCKIES INTO THE NORTHERN  
PLAINS BY NEXT WEEKEND.  
 
CAMPBELL/SANTORELLI  
 
ADDITIONAL 3-7 DAY HAZARD INFORMATION CAN BE FOUND ON THE WPC  
MEDIUM RANGE HAZARDS OUTLOOK CHART AT:  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/THREATS/THREATS.PHP  
 
WPC MEDIUM RANGE 500MB HEIGHTS, SURFACE SYSTEMS, WEATHER GRIDS,  
QUANTITATIVE PRECIPITATION FORECAST, EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OUTLOOK,  
WINTER WEATHER OUTLOOK PROBABILITIES, HEAT INDICES AND KEY  
MESSAGES ARE AT:  
 
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST500_WBG.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST_WBG_CONUS.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/5KM_GRIDS/5KM_GRIDSBODY.HTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/QPF/DAY4-7.SHTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/#PAGE=ERO  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/WWD/PWPF_D47/PWPF_MEDR.PHP?DAY=4  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/HEAT_INDEX.SHTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/#PAGE=OVW  
 

 
 

 
 
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