521  
FXUS02 KWBC 230700  
PMDEPD  
 
EXTENDED FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NWS WEATHER PREDICTION CENTER COLLEGE PARK MD  
300 AM EDT MON OCT 23 2023  
 
VALID 12Z THU OCT 26 2023 - 12Z MON OCT 30 2023  
 
...A HEAVY TO EXCESSIVE RAINFALL THREAT ACROSS PARTS OF THE UPPER  
MIDWEST ON THURSDAY...  
 
...HEAVY SNOW INCREASINGLY LIKELY FOR PARTS OF THE NORTHERN PLAINS  
ON THURSDAY...  
 
   
..OVERVIEW
 
 
THE MEDIUM RANGE PERIOD BEGINS THURSDAY WITH SHORTWAVE ENERGY  
MOVING THROUGH THE CENTRAL U.S. WHICH COULD SUPPORT A HEAVY  
RAINFALL THREAT ACROSS PARTS OF THE UPPER MIDWEST ON THURSDAY  
ALONG AND AHEAD OF A STRONG COLD FRONT. MEANWHILE, ADDITIONAL  
AMPLIFIED ENERGY THROUGH THE NORTHWEST WILL ALLOW FOR AN EARLY  
SEASON SNOWSTORM ACROSS PARTS OF THE NORTHERN ROCKIES INTO THE  
NORTHERN PLAINS. AMPLIFIED TROUGHING WILL BE RENEWED INTO EARLY  
NEXT WEEK ACROSS MUCH OF THE WESTERN U.S. AS THE NEXT SHORTWAVE  
DROPS INTO THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST ON FRIDAY. THIS WOULD ALSO ALLOW  
FOR A STRONG UPPER RIDGE TO BUILD OVER THE SOUTHEAST QUADRANT OF  
THE U.S. THROUGH THE PERIOD.  
 
   
..GUIDANCE EVALUATION/PREDICTABILITY ASSESSMENT
 
 
AS HAS BEEN THE CASE FOR SEVERAL DAYS, THE GFS CONTINUES TO BE  
FAST WITH THE SHORTWAVE THROUGH THE MIDWEST ON THURSDAY AND  
SLIGHTLY MORE AMPLIFIED WITH THE INITIAL SYSTEM THROUGH THE WEST.  
HOWEVER, COMPARED TO RECENT RUNS, MODELS HAVE COME INTO MUCH  
BETTER AGREEMENT ACROSS THE BOARD IN THE EARLY PERIODS AND SO A  
GENERAL DETERMINISTIC MODEL BLEND WAS USABLE FOR THE DAY  
3-5/THURSDAY-SATURDAY PERIOD FOR TONIGHTS WPC PROGS. MODELS AGREE  
THE NEXT SHORTWAVE SHOULD ARRIVE IN THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST AROUND  
FRIDAY, WITH SOME HINTS THAT A CLOSED LOW COULD EVENTUALLY FORM  
OUT OF THIS. THE GFS IS MOST EXCITED ABOUT THIS EVOLUTION SHOWING  
COMPLETE SEPARATION FROM NORTHERN STREAM ENERGY (WHICH SHOULD  
SLIDE EAST THROUGH THE NORTHERN TIER) AND BRINGING THE UPPER LOW  
MUCH FARTHER SOUTH AND WEST INTO CALIFORNIA/THE SOUTHWEST NEXT  
SUNDAY-MONDAY. THE ECMWF AND CMC, WITH SUPPORT FROM THE ENSEMBLE  
MEANS, SUGGEST A LITTLE BIT WEAKER SOUTHERN STREAM SYSTEM AND MORE  
PHASED TROUGHING OVERALL. THE DAYS 6 AND 7 FORECAST BLEND  
INCORPORATED MORE OF THE ENSEMBLE MEANS TO HELP TEMPER THE DETAIL  
DIFFERENCES IN THE DETERMINISTIC SOLUTIONS, WITH MINOR  
CONTRIBUTIONS STILL FROM THE ECMWF FOR SOME ADDED SYSTEM  
DEFINITION. THIS EVOLUTION HAS IMPLICATIONS FOR ANOTHER ROUND OF  
HEAVY RAINFALL ACROSS THE CENTRAL PLAINS/MIDWEST REGION LATE  
PERIOD, WITH POSSIBLY SNOW ON THE BACKSIDE SO DETAILS WILL NEED TO  
BE MONITORED IN THE COMING DAYS.  
 
   
..WEATHER/HAZARDS HIGHLIGHTS
 
 
HIGHLY ANOMALOUS MOISTURE, WITH TROPICAL CONNECTIONS TO WHAT IS  
CURRENTLY TROPICAL STORM NORMA, WILL INTERACT WITH A FRONTAL  
BOUNDARY THROUGH THE NORTH-CENTRAL U.S TO FUEL A HEAVY TO POSSIBLY  
EXCESSIVE RAINFALL THREAT ON THURSDAY ACROSS MUCH OF THE UPPER  
MIDWEST/GREAT LAKES. THERE WAS ENOUGH MODEL AGREEMENT TO INTRODUCE  
A SLIGHT RISK FROM NORTHEAST IOWA INTO CENTRAL WISCONSIN ON THE  
DAY 4/THURSDAY EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OUTLOOK. DESPITE DRY ANTECEDENT  
CONDITIONS ACROSS THIS REGION, SLOW MOVING STORMS ALONG THE  
FRONTAL BOUNDARY WITH PLENTY OF MOISTURE AND INSTABILITY TO WORK  
WITH, COULD POSE A FLASH FLOOD RISK. ON THE NORTH AND WEST OF THIS  
SYSTEM, HEAVY SNOW THREATS CONTINUE TO INCREASE ACROSS PARTS OF  
THE NORTH-CENTRAL ROCKIES INTO THE NORTHERN PLAINS ON THURSDAY.  
THIS WOULD BE THE FIRST ACCUMULATING SNOW EVENT OF THE SEASON FOR  
THE LOWER ELEVATIONS OF EASTERN MONTANA/NORTH DAKOTA WHERE SEVERAL  
INCHES OF SNOW COULD FALL.  
 
ELSEWHERE, SHOWERS WILL CONTINUE ACROSS PARTS OF THE  
SOUTHERN/CENTRAL PLAINS ON THURSDAY ALONG A WEAKENING FRONTAL  
BOUNDARY. OUT WEST, ADDITIONAL PRECIPITATION/HIGHER ELEVATION  
SNOWS WILL MOVE EASTWARD ACROSS THE REGION THIS COMING WEEKEND. AN  
ADDITIONAL HEAVY RAIN THREAT COULD DEVELOP ACROSS PARTS OF THE  
CENTRAL PLAINS/MIDDLE MISSISSIPPI VALLEY INTO THE UPPER MIDWEST  
EARLY NEXT WEEK, WITH SOME SNOW POTENTIAL FOR THE NORTHERN FRINGE  
OF THE PRECIPITATION SHIELD. THIS REMAINS STILL VERY UNCERTAIN BUT  
IS WORTH MONITORING.  
 
WELL ABOVE NORMAL TEMPERATURES ACROSS THE CENTRAL U.S. AND THE  
MIDWEST WILL SHIFT EAST AND SETTLE THIS WEEKEND ACROSS THE  
EAST/SOUTHEAST AS UPPER RIDGING BUILDS OVER THIS REGION.  
MEANWHILE, RENEWED AND AMPLIFIED TROUGHING ACROSS THE WEST WILL  
CONTINUE A PROLONGED PERIOD OF BELOW NORMAL TEMPERATURES, WITH  
DAYTIME HIGHS 15-30 DEGREES BELOW NORMAL TO SPREAD ACROSS MUCH OF  
THE INTERIOR WEST AND THE NORTHERN/CENTRAL PLAINS. BY NEXT MONDAY,  
MUCH BELOW NORMAL TEMPERATURES COULD SINK AS FAR SOUTH AS THE  
SOUTHERN ROCKIES AND NORTHERN TEXAS.  
 
SANTORELLI  
 
ADDITIONAL 3-7 DAY HAZARD INFORMATION CAN BE FOUND ON THE WPC  
MEDIUM RANGE HAZARDS OUTLOOK CHART AT:  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/THREATS/THREATS.PHP  
 
WPC MEDIUM RANGE 500MB HEIGHTS, SURFACE SYSTEMS, WEATHER GRIDS,  
QUANTITATIVE PRECIPITATION FORECAST, EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OUTLOOK,  
WINTER WEATHER OUTLOOK PROBABILITIES, HEAT INDICES AND KEY  
MESSAGES ARE AT:  
 
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST500_WBG.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST_WBG_CONUS.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/5KM_GRIDS/5KM_GRIDSBODY.HTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/QPF/DAY4-7.SHTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/#PAGE=ERO  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/WWD/PWPF_D47/PWPF_MEDR.PHP?DAY=4  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/HEAT_INDEX.SHTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/#PAGE=OVW  
 

 
 

 
 
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