834  
FXUS02 KWBC 232058  
PMDEPD  
 
EXTENDED FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NWS WEATHER PREDICTION CENTER COLLEGE PARK MD  
457 PM EDT MON OCT 23 2023  
 
VALID 12Z THU OCT 26 2023 - 12Z MON OCT 30 2023  
 
...A HEAVY TO EXCESSIVE RAINFALL THREAT ACROSS PARTS OF THE UPPER  
MIDWEST ON THURSDAY...  
 
...HEAVY SNOW INCREASINGLY LIKELY FOR PARTS OF THE NORTHERN PLAINS  
ON THURSDAY...  
 
   
..OVERVIEW
 
 
THE MEDIUM RANGE PERIOD WILL BEGIN THURSDAY WITH SHORTWAVE ENERGY  
LIFTING NORTHEASTWARD THROUGH THE CENTRAL U.S., WHICH COULD  
CONTRIBUTE TO A HEAVY RAINFALL THREAT ACROSS PARTS OF THE UPPER  
MIDWEST ALONG AND AHEAD OF A STRONG COLD FRONT. A SEPARATE  
SHORTWAVE EJECTING FROM THE NORTHWEST U.S. WILL PRODUCE AN EARLY  
SEASON SNOWSTORM ACROSS PARTS OF THE NORTHERN ROCKIES INTO  
NORTHERN PLAINS ON THURSDAY AS WELL, AND HELP TO DEVELOP A WAVE  
ALONG THE UPPER MIDWEST FRONT. UPSTREAM ENERGY DROPPING DOWN THE  
EAST SIDE OF STRONG NORTHEAST PACIFIC/ALASKA RIDGING WILL FURTHER  
AMPLIFY THE MEAN TROUGH ALOFT OVER THE WEST BY THE WEEKEND INTO  
EARLY NEXT WEEK. AT THE SAME TIME A STRONG UPPER RIDGE SHOULD  
PERSIST OVER THE SOUTHEAST QUADRANT OF THE U.S. AND GULF OF MEXICO  
THROUGH THE PERIOD. THIS PATTERN SHOULD SUPPORT A MULTI-DAY PERIOD  
OF ENHANCED RAINFALL OVER PARTS OF THE CENTRAL U.S., WITH A  
PRONOUNCED CONTRAST BETWEEN UNSEASONABLY COLD CONDITIONS OVER THE  
WEST PLUS GRADUALLY INCREASING COVERAGE OVER THE PLAINS AND VERY  
WARM WEATHER FARTHER EASTWARD.  
 
   
..GUIDANCE EVALUATION/PREDICTABILITY ASSESSMENT
 
 
THE UPDATED FORECAST BASED ON 00Z/06Z GUIDANCE MAINTAINED THE  
APPROACH OF BLENDING THE LATEST OPERATIONAL RUNS EARLY IN THE  
PERIOD AND MIXED IN SOME OF THE GEFS/ECENS MEANS LATER ON TO  
ACCOUNT FOR DECREASING CONFIDENCE IN EXACT DETAILS WITHIN AN  
OVERALL AGREEABLE LARGE SCALE PATTERN. AT THE START OF THE PERIOD  
EARLY THURSDAY, THE GFS CONTINUES TO BE A BIT SLOWER AND MORE  
CLOSED WITH THE SHORTWAVE CROSSING THE NORTHWEST. THEN THE GFS  
BECOMES A LITTLE WEAKER AND MORE SUPPRESSED WITH THE ASSOCIATED  
SURFACE WAVE THAT DEVELOPS OVER THE UPPER MIDWEST AND THEN TRACKS  
INTO EASTERN CANADA. BY THE LATTER HALF OF THE PERIOD THE PRIMARY  
ISSUES INVOLVE HOW CLOSED THE ENERGY DIGGING INTO THE WEST MAY  
BECOME AND EXACT PROGRESSION OF NORTHERN STREAM FLOW--I.E., HOW  
MUCH PHASING EXISTS BETWEEN THE TWO STREAMS. ALTHOUGH NOT A  
PERFECT MATCH, A MORE CLOSED WESTERN LOW (PER LATEST GFS/CMC RUNS)  
GENERALLY GOES ALONG WITH A SLIGHTLY MORE PROGRESSIVE NORTHERN  
STREAM AND FASTER SURFACE FRONT PROGRESSION OVER THE NORTHEAST  
U.S. LATER IN THE PERIOD. THUS FAR GUIDANCE HAS BEEN SPLIT WITH NO  
CLEAR MAJORITY/TREND BECOMING EVIDENT YET. THE UPDATED BLEND KEPT  
THE FORECAST CLOSE TO CONTINUITY, REFLECTING AN INTERMEDIATE  
SOLUTION WITH SOME HINT OF SEPARATION ALOFT OVER THE WEST BUT NOT  
QUITE A CLOSED LOW ALONG WITH SOMEWHAT SLOWER NORTHEAST FRONTAL  
PROGRESSION THAN THE GFS/GEFS/CMC. THE NEW 12Z ECMWF HAS ADJUSTED  
A LITTLE TOWARD THE MIDDLE OF THE PRIOR SPREAD SO THE ENVELOPE  
SEEMS TO BE NARROWING SOME.  
 
   
..WEATHER/HAZARDS HIGHLIGHTS
 
 
HIGHLY ANOMALOUS MOISTURE, WITH TROPICAL CONNECTIONS TO WHAT IS  
CURRENTLY TROPICAL STORM NORMA, WILL INTERACT WITH A FRONTAL  
BOUNDARY THROUGH THE NORTH-CENTRAL U.S TO FUEL A HEAVY TO POSSIBLY  
EXCESSIVE RAINFALL THREAT ON THURSDAY ACROSS MUCH OF THE UPPER  
MIDWEST/GREAT LAKES. THERE WAS ENOUGH MODEL AGREEMENT TO INTRODUCE  
A SLIGHT RISK AREA FROM NORTHEAST IOWA INTO CENTRAL WISCONSIN ON  
THE DAY 4/THURSDAY EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OUTLOOK, WITH LATEST  
GUIDANCE REASONABLY SUPPORTIVE OF MAINTAINING THIS OUTLOOK AREA  
WITHOUT CHANGE FOR NOW. THERE HAS BEEN A LITTLE MORE VARIABILITY  
ON WHERE THE AXIS OF HEAVY RAINFALL MAY CROSS NORTHERN MICHIGAN  
(MOSTLY IN THE U.P.) SO THIS WILL BE ONE LOCATION OF ONGOING  
EVALUATION WITH REGARD TO SLIGHT VERSUS MARGINAL RISK. DESPITE DRY  
ANTECEDENT CONDITIONS ACROSS THIS REGION, SLOW MOVING STORMS ALONG  
THE FRONTAL BOUNDARY WITH PLENTY OF MOISTURE AND INSTABILITY TO  
WORK WITH, COULD POSE A FLASH FLOOD RISK. ON THE NORTH AND WEST  
SIDE OF THIS SYSTEM, HEAVY SNOW THREATS CONTINUE TO INCREASE  
ACROSS PARTS OF THE NORTH-CENTRAL ROCKIES INTO THE NORTHERN PLAINS  
ON THURSDAY. THIS WOULD BE THE FIRST ACCUMULATING SNOW EVENT OF  
THE SEASON FOR THE LOWER ELEVATIONS OF EASTERN MONTANA/NORTH  
DAKOTA WHERE SEVERAL INCHES OF SNOW COULD FALL. BY THE  
FRIDAY-FRIDAY NIGHT TIME FRAME COVERED IN THE DAY 5 ERO, GUIDANCE  
IS SHOWING DECENT INSTABILITY AND INCREASINGLY ANOMALOUS MOISTURE  
AHEAD OF THE WAVY FRONT SLOWLY ADVANCING OVER THE SOUTHERN PLAINS,  
WITH SOME SIGNAL FOR LOCALIZED ENHANCED TOTALS (12Z UKMET BEING  
HEAVIEST SO FAR). THE BEST POTENTIAL FOR SOME FAIRLY INTENSE RAIN  
RATES SHOULD BE OFFSET JUST TO THE EAST OF HIGHEST TOTALS IN PRIOR  
DAYS BUT THE PATTERN AND INGREDIENTS SEEM TO FAVOR INTRODUCTION OF  
A MARGINAL RISK AREA FROM CENTRAL TEXAS INTO NORTHWESTERN ARKANSAS  
AND FAR SOUTHWESTERN MISSOURI.  
 
ELSEWHERE, SHOWERS WILL CONTINUE ACROSS PARTS OF THE  
SOUTHERN/CENTRAL PLAINS ON THURSDAY ALONG A WEAKENING FRONTAL  
BOUNDARY BEFORE THE STRONGER FRONT APPROACHES ON FRIDAY. BEYOND  
FRIDAY, THIS STRONG FRONT SHOULD CONTINUE TO SERVE AS A FOCUS FOR  
SIGNIFICANT RAINFALL OVER PARTS OF THE EASTERN HALF OF THE PLAINS  
INTO AT LEAST THE MISSISSIPPI VALLEY. IT WILL TAKE SOME ADDITIONAL  
TIME TO DETERMINE HOW MUCH OVERLAP MAY OCCUR (YIELDING THE HIGHEST  
TOTALS) OVER THE MULTIPLE DAYS OF THIS LONGER TERM EVENT. LIGHTER  
RAIN SHOULD EXTEND INTO THE GREAT LAKES/NORTHEAST FROM THE WEEKEND  
INTO EARLY NEXT WEEK. OUT WEST, ADDITIONAL PRECIPITATION/HIGHER  
ELEVATION SNOWS WILL MOVE EASTWARD ACROSS THE REGION THIS COMING  
WEEKEND FOLLOWED BY A DRIER TREND AS THE MOISTURE CONTRIBUTES TO  
THE ENHANCED RAINFALL AREA FARTHER EAST. POTENTIAL EXISTS FOR SOME  
SNOW IN THE NORTHERN FRINGE OF THE PRECIPITATION SHIELD ACROSS THE  
NORTHERN TIER. SPECIFICS REMAIN VERY UNCERTAIN BUT REQUIRE  
MONITORING.  
 
RENEWED AND AMPLIFIED TROUGHING ACROSS THE WEST WILL CONTINUE A  
PROLONGED PERIOD OF BELOW NORMAL TEMPERATURES, WITH DAYTIME HIGHS  
15-30 DEGREES BELOW NORMAL (LOCALLY COLDER OVER MONTANA LATE THIS  
WEEK) TO SPREAD ACROSS MUCH OF THE INTERIOR WEST AND THE  
NORTHERN/CENTRAL PLAINS. BY NEXT MONDAY, MUCH BELOW NORMAL  
TEMPERATURES COULD SINK AS FAR SOUTH AS THE SOUTHERN ROCKIES AND  
NORTHWESTERN TEXAS. A FEW DAILY RECORDS ARE POSSIBLE WITHIN THIS  
COLD AIR MASS. MEANWHILE, WELL ABOVE NORMAL TEMPERATURES ACROSS  
THE CENTRAL U.S. AND THE MIDWEST WILL SHIFT EAST AND SETTLE THIS  
WEEKEND ACROSS THE EAST/SOUTHEAST AS UPPER RIDGING BUILDS OVER  
THIS REGION. EXPECT A BROAD AREA OF HIGHS 10-20 DEGREES ABOVE  
NORMAL WITH SOME MORNING LOWS 20-25 DEGREES ABOVE NORMAL. DAILY  
RECORDS ARE POSSIBLE, WITH RECORD WARM LOWS LIKELY TO BE MORE  
NUMEROUS THAN RECORD HIGHS.  
 
RAUSCH/SANTORELLI  
 
ADDITIONAL 3-7 DAY HAZARD INFORMATION CAN BE FOUND ON THE WPC  
MEDIUM RANGE HAZARDS OUTLOOK CHART AT:  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/THREATS/THREATS.PHP  
 
HAZARDS:  
- HEAVY RAIN ACROSS PORTIONS OF THE CENTRAL/SOUTHERN PLAINS AND  
THE MIDDLE/LOWER MISSISSIPPI  
VALLEY, SAT, OCT 28.  
- HEAVY RAIN ACROSS PORTIONS OF THE MIDDLE/LOWER MISSISSIPPI  
VALLEY, AND THE SOUTHERN PLAINS, FRI,  
OCT 27.  
- HEAVY RAIN ACROSS PORTIONS OF THE GREAT LAKES AND THE UPPER  
MISSISSIPPI VALLEY, THU, OCT 26.  
- HEAVY SNOW ACROSS PORTIONS OF THE NORTHERN PLAINS, THU, OCT 26.  
- FROST/FREEZE ACROSS PORTIONS OF THE CENTRAL/SOUTHERN PLAINS AND  
THE UPPER/MIDDLE MISSISSIPPI  
VALLEY, SUN-MON, OCT 29-OCT 30.  
 
WPC MEDIUM RANGE 500MB HEIGHTS, SURFACE SYSTEMS, WEATHER GRIDS,  
QUANTITATIVE PRECIPITATION FORECAST, EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OUTLOOK,  
WINTER WEATHER OUTLOOK PROBABILITIES, HEAT INDICES AND KEY  
MESSAGES ARE AT:  
 
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST500_WBG.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST_WBG_CONUS.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/5KM_GRIDS/5KM_GRIDSBODY.HTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/QPF/DAY4-7.SHTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/#PAGE=ERO  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/WWD/PWPF_D47/PWPF_MEDR.PHP?DAY=4  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/HEAT_INDEX.SHTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/#PAGE=OVW  
 

 
 

 
 
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