698  
FXUS02 KWBC 071901  
PMDEPD  
 
EXTENDED FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NWS WEATHER PREDICTION CENTER COLLEGE PARK MD  
200 PM EST TUE NOV 07 2023  
 
VALID 12Z FRI NOV 10 2023 - 12Z TUE NOV 14 2023  
   
..OVERVIEW
 
 
THE UPPER FLOW PATTERN ACROSS THE CONTIGUOUS U.S. LATE WEEK INTO  
THE WEEKEND LOOKS TO BE PROGRESSIVE WITH MULTIPLE EMBEDDED  
SHORTWAVES THAT WILL BE IMPACTFUL IN SPINNING UP LOW  
PRESSURE/FRONTAL SYSTEMS. THE FIRST SYSTEM OF CONCERN IS A  
POSITIVELY TILTED SHORTWAVE OVER THE NORTH-CENTRAL U.S. FRIDAY  
COMBINING WITH CANADIAN FLOW TO PRODUCE TROUGHING ACROSS PARTS OF  
THE CENTRAL AND EASTERN U.S. LATE WEEK. EASTWARD PROGRESSION OF  
THE UPPER TROUGH AND AN ASSOCIATED WAVY FRONT WILL GRADUALLY  
SUPPRESS AN AREA OF ABOVE AVERAGE TEMPERATURES ACROSS THE  
SOUTHEAST LATE WEEK, WHILE SPREADING RAIN ACROSS THE SOUTHERN AND  
EASTERN U.S. THAT COULD LINGER INTO EARLY NEXT WEEK. UPSTREAM, A  
QUICKLY MOVING SHORTWAVE AND FRONTAL SYSTEM OR TWO COMING THROUGH  
THE NORTHWEST SHOULD INCREASE RAIN/SNOW CHANCES THERE, FOLLOWED BY  
A LARGER SCALE EASTERN PACIFIC UPPER TROUGH THAT MAY GENERATE  
ADDITIONAL PRECIPITATION OVER THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST DURING THE  
WEEKEND AND BEYOND. THIS EASTERN PACIFIC TROUGH WILL PROMOTE UPPER  
RIDGING FARTHER EAST INTO THE NORTH-CENTRAL U.S. WITH WARMER  
TEMPERATURES, AND OVERALL A MORE LONGWAVE-DOMINATED PATTERN INTO  
NEXT WEEK.  
 
   
..GUIDANCE EVALUATION/PREDICTABILITY ASSESSMENT
 
 
DESPITE SOME RELATIVELY MINOR DETAIL DIFFERENCES, THERE REMAINS  
GOOD ENOUGH AGREEMENT THE FIRST HALF OF THE PERIOD FOR A  
MULTI-MODEL BLEND OF THE LATEST DETERMINISTIC GUIDANCE. BY SUNDAY  
AND BEYOND, BIGGER ISSUES BEGIN TO ARISE REGARDING A SHORTWAVE  
TRAVERSING THE NORTHERN HALF OF THE COUNTRY REACHING THE GREAT  
LAKES AROUND SUNDAY. THE ECMWF BY THIS POINT BECOMES FASTER AND  
MORE AMPLIFIED AS IT TRIES TO COMBINE ENERGIES WITH A SEPARATE  
SHORTWAVE MOVING INTO THE GREAT LAKES ON SUNDAY FROM CENTRAL  
CANADA AND ALSO SPINS UP A DEEP SURFACE LOW OFF THE EAST COAST ON  
MONDAY. THE BETTER CONSENSUS SUGGESTS MORE SEPARATION OF FEATURES  
AND WEAKER SYSTEMS, AND BY DAY 7, THE ECMWF BECOMES COMPLETELY OUT  
OF PHASE ACROSS THE EAST COMPARED TO THE GFS/CMC. THIS HAS  
IMPLICATIONS FOR QPF ACROSS THE EAST/SOUTHEAST THIS WEEKEND/EARLY  
NEXT WEEK. THE ENSEMBLE MEANS SHOW BETTER AGREEMENT AND SUGGESTS A  
TROUGH POSITION IN BETWEEN THE GFS/CMC AND THE ECMWF. TIMING  
ISSUES BEGIN TO ARISE BY MONDAY AND ESPECIALLY INTO TUESDAY WITH  
AMPLIFIED TROUGHING TOWARDS THE WEST COAST WITH THE ECMWF QUITE A  
BIT FASTER BRINGING THIS ENERGY (AND THE RESULTING QPF) INLAND.  
THE ENSEMBLE MEANS GENERALLY FOLLOW SUIT WITH THEIR DETERMINISTIC  
COUNTERPARTS.  
 
THE WPC FORECAST FOR TODAY USED A GENERAL MODEL BLEND FOR DAYS  
3-5, LEANING MORE HEAVILY ON THE ENSEMBLE MEANS BY DAY 6 AND  
7/MONDAY-TUESDAY. MAINTAINED A SLIGHT PREFERENCE TOWARDS THE  
SLOWER GFS/GEFS WHICH MAINTAINED BETTER CONTINUITY WITH THE  
PREVIOUS WPC FORECAST AS WELL.  
 
   
..WEATHER/HAZARDS HIGHLIGHTS
 
 
MOISTURE OVERRUNNING THE COLD FRONT THAT IS LIKELY TO PUSH THROUGH  
THE SOUTHEAST AND THEN STALL OVER THE NORTHERN GULF WILL LEAD TO  
SOME RAIN ACROSS THE SOUTH-CENTRAL TO SOUTHEASTERN QUADRANT OF THE  
U.S. FOR LATE WEEK INTO EARLY NEXT WEEK. THE HIGHEST RAINFALL  
TOTALS ARE LIKELY TO BE OVER SOUTHERN TEXAS NEAR A MEANDERING  
SURFACE LOW ALONG THE FRONT, WITH EASTERN PACIFIC AND GULF  
MOISTURE COMBINING. ON FRIDAY, SOME INSTABILITY COULD BE IN PLACE  
ESPECIALLY EARLY IN THE DAY BEFORE THE FRONT PUSHES THROUGH. THIS  
COULD LEAD TO LOCALLY HEAVY RAINFALL RATES, BUT ARE LIKELY TO STAY  
BELOW ANY FLASH FLOODING THRESHOLDS, SO MAINTAINED NO RISK AREA ON  
THE DAY 4/FRIDAY EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OUTLOOK. BY SATURDAY, SINCE  
THE FRONT IS LIKELY TO HAVE PASSED, LACK OF INSTABILITY SHOULD  
MEAN RAIN RATES WILL NOT BE TOO HIGH, SO NO RISK AREA IS PLANNED  
FOR THE DAY 5/SATURDAY ERO EITHER. INTO NEXT WEEK THOUGH, THERE  
MAY BE MORE SUPPORT FOR CONVECTION AS MID-UPPER LEVEL ENERGY  
APPROACHES, SO THIS WILL CONTINUE TO BE MONITORED. FARTHER NORTH,  
LAKE EFFECT PRECIPITATION IS LIKELY WITH TROUGHING AND WESTERLY  
FLOW OVER THE GREAT LAKES, LIKELY MAXIMIZED FRIDAY. ADDITIONAL  
UPPER-LEVEL ENERGY COULD SPREAD LIGHT PRECIPITATION TO THE  
NORTHEAST EARLY NEXT WEEK. ROUNDS OF FRONTAL SYSTEMS AND  
SHORTWAVES PUSHING THROUGH THE NORTHWEST WILL MAINTAIN  
PRECIPITATION CHANCES ACROSS THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST AND THE  
NORTHERN ROCKIES. MODERATE TO HEAVY AMOUNTS ARE LIKELY TO BE  
DIRECTED INTO THE NORTHERN PARTS OF THE OLYMPICS AND CASCADES,  
WITH LOWER ELEVATION RAIN AND HIGHER ELEVATION SNOW.  
 
SOUTHEASTERN PORTIONS OF THE COUNTRY WILL REMAIN WARMER THAN  
AVERAGE AHEAD OF THE FRONTAL BOUNDARY ON FRIDAY, WITH A CORRIDOR  
OF LOWS THAT ARE 10-20F ABOVE NORMAL EXTENDING FROM THE LOWER  
MISSISSIPPI VALLEY INTO THE SOUTHEAST TO THE MID-ATLANTIC FRIDAY  
MORNING BEFORE THE COLD FRONT PASSES AND LIMITS ABOVE NORMAL HIGHS  
TO THE SOUTHEAST/FLORIDA. THE FLORIDA PENINSULA SHOULD BE THE MAIN  
AREA ABOVE AVERAGE BY SATURDAY, WITH HIGHS WELL INTO THE 80S  
ACTUALLY CLOSE TO DAILY RECORD HIGHS. ELSEWHERE, TEMPERATURES  
SHOULD BE NEAR AVERAGE TO COOLER THAN AVERAGE THROUGH LATE WEEK IN  
THE POST-FRONTAL COOL HIGH PRESSURE. BUT AS UPPER RIDGING BUILDS  
ACROSS THE NORTH-CENTRAL U.S. EARLY NEXT WEEK, ABOVE NORMAL  
TEMPERATURES BY AROUND 10-15F WILL OVERSPREAD THE CENTRAL AND  
NORTHERN PLAINS INTO THE MIDWEST. MEANWHILE BELOW NORMAL HIGHS  
SHOULD LINGER IN THE SOUTH-CENTRAL U.S. WITH LOWER HEIGHTS  
OVERHEAD AND CLOUDS AND RAIN POSSIBLE, AND INTERESTINGLY LEAD TO  
SIMILAR HIGHS FROM TEXAS ALL THE WAY NORTH TO SOUTH DAKOTA OR SO  
(IN THE UPPER 50S AND 60S). NEAR TO COOLER THAN NORMAL OVER THE  
EASTERN SEABOARD THIS WEEKEND SHOULD GRADUALLY MODERATE THROUGH  
THE EARLY PART OF NEXT WEEK.  
 
TATE  
 
ADDITIONAL 3-7 DAY HAZARD INFORMATION CAN BE FOUND ON THE WPC  
MEDIUM RANGE HAZARDS OUTLOOK CHART AT:  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/THREATS/THREATS.PHP  
 
WPC MEDIUM RANGE 500MB HEIGHTS, SURFACE SYSTEMS, WEATHER GRIDS,  
QUANTITATIVE PRECIPITATION FORECAST, EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OUTLOOK,  
WINTER WEATHER OUTLOOK PROBABILITIES, HEAT INDICES AND KEY  
MESSAGES ARE AT:  
 
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST500_WBG.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST_WBG_CONUS.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/5KM_GRIDS/5KM_GRIDSBODY.HTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/QPF/DAY4-7.SHTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/#PAGE=ERO  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/WWD/PWPF_D47/PWPF_MEDR.PHP?DAY=4  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/HEAT_INDEX.SHTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/#PAGE=OVW  
 

 
 

 
 
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