643  
FXUS02 KWBC 080700  
PMDEPD  
 
EXTENDED FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NWS WEATHER PREDICTION CENTER COLLEGE PARK MD  
159 AM EST WED NOV 08 2023  
 
VALID 12Z SAT NOV 11 2023 - 12Z WED NOV 15 2023  
   
..OVERVIEW
 
 
OVER THE WEEKEND, A SHORTWAVE OR TWO WILL PUSH THROUGH THE  
NORTHERN TIER OF THE COUNTRY, DEVELOPING INTO TROUGHING OVER THE  
EASTERN SEABOARD EARLY NEXT WEEK AND LEADING TO COOLER THAN  
AVERAGE TEMPERATURES. FARTHER SOUTH, MOISTURE SHOULD OVERRUN A  
SLOW-MOVING FRONT OVER THE GULF OF MEXICO AND SPREAD RAIN ACROSS  
PARTS OF THE SOUTHERN AND EASTERN U.S. SOUTHERN TEXAS MAY SEE THE  
BEST CHANCE FOR HEAVY RAIN ESPECIALLY INTO NEXT WEEK WHEN  
UPPER-LEVEL ENERGY COMES THROUGH, BUT THERE IS STILL CONSIDERABLE  
UNCERTAINTY WITH HOW MUCH RAIN FALLS ONSHORE VERSUS OFFSHORE AND  
HOW MUCH INSTABILITY WILL BE IN PLACE THAT WOULD INCREASE RAIN  
RATES. MEANWHILE, ROUNDS OF PRECIPITATION ARE POSSIBLE ACROSS THE  
PACIFIC NORTHWEST FOR THE WEEKEND INTO EARLY NEXT WEEK, BUT  
PRECIPITATION LOOKS TO INCREASE CONSIDERABLY FOR THE WEST COAST  
(MOST LIKELY MAXIMIZED OVER CALIFORNIA) BY TUESDAY-WEDNESDAY AS  
DEEP EASTERN PACIFIC UPPER TROUGHING LIKELY DIRECTS AN ATMOSPHERIC  
RIVER INTO THE REGION. DOWNSTREAM, UPPER RIDGING IN THE  
NORTH-CENTRAL U.S. SHOULD LEAD TO ABOVE AVERAGE TEMPERATURES FOR  
THE NORTHERN/CENTRAL PLAINS INTO THE MIDWEST.  
 
   
..GUIDANCE EVALUATION/PREDICTABILITY ASSESSMENT
 
 
THE DETAILS OF SHORTWAVES TRACKING ACROSS THE NORTHERN TIER REMAIN  
UNCERTAIN THIS WEEKEND EARLY IN THE MEDIUM RANGE PERIOD. SPLIT  
FLOW OVER THE GREAT LAKES AROUND SUNDAY COMPLICATES MATTERS TOO,  
WITH VARIATIONS IN MODELS WITH WHERE THE TROUGHING FARTHER SOUTH  
IN THE MIDWEST SPLITS WITH RIDGING FARTHER NORTH INTO SOUTHERN  
CANADA. WITH THE 12/18Z SUITE OF GUIDANCE THERE DID NOT SEEM TO BE  
PARTICULAR OUTLIERS THROUGH THE WEEKEND, SO UTILIZED A MULTI-MODEL  
DETERMINISTIC BLEND FAVORING THE 18Z GFS AND 12Z ECMWF. THOUGH  
INTO THE WORKWEEK AS ENERGY COMBINES TO FORM TROUGHING OVER THE  
EAST, THE ECMWF SEEMS TO STRAY FASTER THAN CONSENSUS WITH THE  
EASTWARD MOVEMENT OF THE TROUGH INTO THE ATLANTIC. THE NEWER 00Z  
ECMWF SEEMS SLOWER BUT ALSO FLATTER WITH THE TROUGH.  
 
FORTUNATELY THE UPPER PATTERN BECOMES MORE DOMINATED BY  
SYNOPTIC-SCALE LONGWAVE TROUGHS AND RIDGES INTO NEXT WEEK. FLOW ON  
THIS SCALE IS USUALLY BETTER HANDLED BY THE MODEL GUIDANCE, THOUGH  
SOME MODEL DIFFERENCES REMAIN PARTICULARLY IN TERMS OF THE TIMING  
OF THE FEATURES. OVERALL MODELS ARE AGREEABLE THAT EASTERN PACIFIC  
TROUGHING WILL DEEPEN AND EDGE TOWARD THE WEST COAST, WHILE  
RIDGING AMPLIFIES FARTHER EAST OVER THE CENTRAL U.S. AND TROUGHING  
OVER THE EAST TRACKS INTO THE ATLANTIC BY MIDWEEK. THE PACIFIC  
TROUGH HAS SHOWN SOME NOTABLE DIFFERENCES IN ITS TIMING OVER THE  
PAST COUPLE OF DAYS. THE ECMWF SUITE HAS BEEN FASTER IN BRINGING  
THE TROUGH AND LIKELY EMBEDDED UPPER LOW AND THUS THE QPF INLAND  
COMPARED TO THE OTHER GUIDANCE. THE NEWER 00Z ECMWF RUN HAS SLOWED  
DOWN THOUGH AND LOOKS MORE CONSISTENT WITH CONSENSUS. ANOTHER  
CONSIDERATION IS ENERGY ATOP NORTHWESTERN MEXICO EARLY IN THE WEEK  
THAT SHOULD TRACK NORTHEAST ACROSS THE SOUTH-CENTRAL U.S. AROUND  
MONDAY-WEDNESDAY. MODELS GENERALLY AGREE ON THIS TRACK BUT EVEN  
MINOR DIFFERENCES CAN CAUSE DISCREPANCIES WITH THE SENSIBLE  
WEATHER SUCH AS THE QPF--THE 12Z ECMWF WAS QUITE HIGH WITH ITS QPF  
AND FARTHER INLAND COMPARED TO OTHER GUIDANCE. THE NEWER 00Z ECMWF  
SEEMS STILL FARTHER INLAND AND HEAVY COMPARED TO OTHER GUIDANCE,  
BUT AT LEAST NOT TO THE SAME EXTREME AS THE PREVIOUS RUN.  
 
THE WPC FORECAST TRANSITIONED FROM A MULTI-MODEL DETERMINISTIC  
BLEND OF THE 18Z GFS AND 12Z ECMWF/CMC/UKMET TO INCORPORATE THE  
GEFS AND EC ENSEMBLE MEANS IN THE BLEND, WITH HALF MODELS/HALF  
MEANS COMPOSING THE FORECAST BLEND BY DAYS 6-7. THIS MINIMIZED  
INDIVIDUAL MODEL DIFFERENCES WHILE CAPTURING THE OVERALL PATTERN.  
 
   
..WEATHER/HAZARDS HIGHLIGHTS
 
 
MOISTURE OVERRUNNING THE COLD FRONT THAT IS FORECAST TO STALL OVER  
THE NORTHWESTERN GULF (BUT TRACK A BIT MORE PROGRESSIVELY THROUGH  
FLORIDA) WILL LEAD TO SOME RAIN ACROSS THE SOUTH-CENTRAL TO  
SOUTHEASTERN QUADRANT OF THE U.S. FOR THE WEEKEND INTO EARLY NEXT  
WEEK. THE HIGHEST RAINFALL TOTALS ARE LIKELY TO BE OVER SOUTHERN  
TEXAS NEAR A MEANDERING SURFACE LOW ALONG THE FRONT, WITH EASTERN  
PACIFIC AND GULF MOISTURE COMBINING. NOT MUCH INSTABILITY IS  
LIKELY TO BE IN PLACE SINCE THIS WILL BE AFTER THE FRONTAL  
PASSAGE, SO RAIN RATES SHOULD NOT BE TOO HIGH. THERE IS ALSO  
CONSIDERABLE UNCERTAINTY WITH HOW MUCH RAIN SPREADS INLAND, WITH  
RAIN TOTALS MAXIMIZED OVER THE GULF. THUS THROUGH THE WEEKEND,  
THERE ARE NO FLASH FLOODING AREAS DELINEATED IN THE EXCESSIVE  
RAINFALL OUTLOOK. INTO MONDAY AND BEYOND THOUGH, THERE MAY BE MORE  
SUPPORT FOR CONVECTION FROM TEXAS INTO THE LOWER MISSISSIPPI  
VALLEY AS MID-UPPER LEVEL ENERGY APPROACHES, SO THIS WILL CONTINUE  
TO BE MONITORED.  
 
ROUNDS OF FRONTAL SYSTEMS AND SHORTWAVES PUSHING THROUGH THE  
NORTHWEST WILL MAINTAIN PRECIPITATION CHANCES ACROSS THE PACIFIC  
NORTHWEST AND THE NORTHERN ROCKIES OVER THE WEEKEND. MODERATE TO  
HEAVY AMOUNTS ARE LIKELY TO BE DIRECTED INTO THE NORTHERN PARTS OF  
THE OLYMPICS AND CASCADES, WITH LOWER ELEVATION RAIN AND HIGHER  
ELEVATION SNOW. STARTING MONDAY AND ESPECIALLY BY  
TUESDAY-WEDNESDAY, UPPER TROUGHING WILL DEEPEN OVER THE EASTERN  
PACIFIC AND DIRECT MOISTURE PLUMES/ATMOSPHERIC RIVERS INTO THE  
WEST, ESPECIALLY CALIFORNIA. EXPECT HEAVY LOWER ELEVATION RAIN AND  
HIGHER ELEVATION SNOW.  
 
ON SATURDAY, MOST OF THE LOWER 48 WILL BE UNDER A POST-FRONTAL  
COOL HIGH PRESSURE SYSTEM, WITH TEMPERATURES NEAR TO BELOW  
AVERAGE. THE EXCEPTION WILL BE THE FLORIDA PENINSULA, WITH HIGHS  
WELL INTO THE 80S ACTUALLY CLOSE TO DAILY RECORD HIGHS.  
TEMPERATURES OVER FLORIDA SHOULD GRADUALLY MODERATE TO NEAR NORMAL  
EARLY NEXT WEEK AS THE COLD FRONT PRESSES THROUGH. AS UPPER  
RIDGING BUILDS ACROSS THE NORTH-CENTRAL U.S. EARLY NEXT WEEK,  
ABOVE NORMAL TEMPERATURES BY AROUND 10-20F WILL OVERSPREAD THE  
CENTRAL AND NORTHERN PLAINS INTO THE MIDWEST, WITH SOME ABOVE  
AVERAGE POCKETS BACK INTO THE GREAT BASIN AS WELL. MEANWHILE BELOW  
NORMAL HIGHS SHOULD LINGER IN THE SOUTH-CENTRAL U.S. WITH LOWER  
HEIGHTS OVERHEAD AND CLOUDS AND RAIN POSSIBLE, AND INTERESTINGLY  
LEAD TO SIMILAR HIGHS FROM TEXAS ALL THE WAY NORTH TO SOUTH DAKOTA  
OR SO (IN THE UPPER 50S AND 60S). NEAR TO COOLER THAN NORMAL  
TEMPERATURES OVER THE EASTERN SEABOARD THIS WEEKEND SHOULD  
GRADUALLY MODERATE THROUGH THE EARLY PART OF NEXT WEEK.  
 
TATE  
 
ADDITIONAL 3-7 DAY HAZARD INFORMATION CAN BE FOUND ON THE WPC  
MEDIUM RANGE HAZARDS OUTLOOK CHART AT:  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/THREATS/THREATS.PHP  
 
WPC MEDIUM RANGE 500MB HEIGHTS, SURFACE SYSTEMS, WEATHER GRIDS,  
QUANTITATIVE PRECIPITATION FORECAST, EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OUTLOOK,  
WINTER WEATHER OUTLOOK PROBABILITIES, HEAT INDICES AND KEY  
MESSAGES ARE AT:  
 
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST500_WBG.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST_WBG_CONUS.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/5KM_GRIDS/5KM_GRIDSBODY.HTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/QPF/DAY4-7.SHTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/#PAGE=ERO  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/WWD/PWPF_D47/PWPF_MEDR.PHP?DAY=4  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/HEAT_INDEX.SHTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/#PAGE=OVW  
 

 
 

 
 
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