625  
FXUS02 KWBC 111901  
PMDEPD  
 
EXTENDED FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NWS WEATHER PREDICTION CENTER COLLEGE PARK MD  
200 PM EST SAT NOV 11 2023  
 
VALID 12Z TUE NOV 14 2023 - 12Z SAT NOV 18 2023  
 
...HEAVY RAINFALL POTENTIAL FOR THE CENTRAL GULF COAST AND PARTS  
OF THE SOUTHEAST INTO THURSDAY...  
...MOISTURE DIRECTED INTO CALIFORNIA COULD LEAD TO HEAVY RAIN AND  
SNOW TUESDAY-THURSDAY...  
 
...PATTERN OVERVIEW AND GUIDANCE EVALUATION/PREDICTABILITY  
ASSESSMENT...  
 
THE MEDIUM RANGE PERIOD (TUESDAY-SATURDAY) FEATURES SHORTWAVE  
ENERGY EXITING THE NORTHEAST AND ADDITIONAL TROUGHING MOVING  
THROUGH THE DEEP SOUTH, WITH EARLY-MID WEEK HEAVY RAINFALL  
POTENTIAL ALONG THE GULF COAST AND INTO PARTS OF THE  
SOUTHEAST/FLORIDA. MEANWHILE, EAST PACIFIC TROUGHING LOOKS TO  
SPLIT, WITH AN AMPLIFIED NORTHERN STREAM SHORTWAVE MOVING QUICKLY  
EASTWARD THROUGH THE NORTHERN TIER, REACHING THE GREAT  
LAKES/NORTHEAST BY FRIDAY-SATURDAY. A SOUTHERN STREAM DEEP UPPER  
LOW LOOKS TO MEANDER OFF THE CALIFORNIA COAST UNTIL ABOUT FRIDAY,  
EVENTUALLY EJECTING INLAND BY NEXT WEEKEND.  
 
MODELS SHOW GOOD ENOUGH AGREEMENT TUESDAY-THURSDAY FOR A PURELY  
DETERMINISTIC MODEL BLEND AS A STARTING POINT FOR THE WPC MEDIUM  
RANGE FORECAST. AFTER THIS, THERE REMAINS PLENTY OF  
TIMING/STRENGTH DIFFERENCES WITH THE NORTHERN STREAM SHORTWAVE  
INTO THE GREAT LAKES LATE NEXT WEEK, AND ALSO PLACEMENT OF THE  
UPPER LOW OFF THE CALIFORNIA COAST AND TIMING OF ITS EVENTUALLY  
MOVE INLAND. THIS NECESSITATED A SHIFT TOWARDS THE ENSEMBLE MEANS  
FOR TODAYS WPC FORECAST BLEND. THESE DIFFERENCES HOWEVER HAVE  
BIGGER IMPLICATIONS FOR RESULTING QPF ACROSS CALIFORNIA, WITH THE  
LATEST NATIONAL BLEND OF MODELS CONTINUING TO APPEAR WELL OVERDONE  
WITH QPF, WITH NOT MUCH SUPPORT FOR THESE HIGHER AMOUNTS FROM THE  
BETTER CONSENSUS OF MODELS. THE WPC QPF FORECAST SIDED MORE  
CLOSELY WITH THE ENSEMBLE MEANS AND THE GFS/ECMWF/CMC, WHICH  
RESULTS IN A SLIGHT REDUCTION IN AMOUNTS COMPARED TO PRIOR SHIFT  
CONTINUITY, AND NOTICEABLY LOWER THAN THE NBM.  
   
..WEATHER/HAZARDS HIGHLIGHTS
 
 
THE SLOW AND STEADY PROGRESSION OF A LEADING/AMPLIFIED SOUTHERN  
STREAM UPPER TROUGH AND ASSOCIATED WAVY SURFACE FRONT HAS  
INCREASINGLY SHOWN A SIGNAL SUPPORTIVE OF SOME EASTERN PACIFIC AND  
ENHANCED GULF OF MEXICO MOISTURE INFLOW TO FUEL PROTRACTED  
RAINFALL POTENTIAL FROM THE CENTRAL GULF COAST STATES TUESDAY  
THROUGH THE SOUTHEAST/FL WITH ADDED ATLANTIC INFLOW THROUGH  
WEDNESDAY, EXITING THURSDAY. THE SOAKER MAY LEAD TO SOME  
COASTAL/LOCAL AND URBAN RUNOFF ISSUES GIVEN POTENTIAL FOR SEVERAL  
INCHES OF FRONTAL OVERRUNNING RAINS AND A THREAT FOR SOME HEAVIER  
LOCAL REPEAT/TRAINING DURATION AMOUNTS. ACCORDINGLY, WPC DAY 4/5  
EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OUTLOOK MARGINAL RISK AREAS CONTINUE ACROSS  
THESE AREAS.  
 
MEANWHILE UPSTREAM IN THE ACTIVE SOUTHERN STREAM BRANCH OF FLOW,  
RECENT GUIDANCE INDICATES THAT AMPLE UPPER TROUGH/CLOSED LOW  
DEVELOPMENT OVER THE EASTERN PACIFIC BY EARLY NEXT WEEK MAY PROVE  
SLOW TO WORK UNTIL LATER NEXT WEEK INTO THE WEST COAST/CALIFORNIA  
IN SEPARATED FLOW. THERE HAS BEEN A NOTICEABLY TREND AWAY FROM ANY  
WIDESPREAD IMPACTFUL RAINFALL AMOUNTS, BUT EVEN STILL, IT'S LIKELY  
THAT MOISTURE SHOULD SLOWLY SPREAD ORGANIZED AND PERIODICALLY  
MODERATE TO LOCALLY TERRAIN ENHANCED RAINS INTO THE CENTRAL  
CALIFORNIA COAST, AND INLAND MOUNTAIN SNOWS FOR THE SIERRAS  
TUESDAY/WEDNESDAY. CONSIDERED A MARGINAL RISK ON THE DAY 5 ERO FOR  
THE COASTLINE, BUT AFTER COORDINATION WITH MONTEREY AND LOS  
ANGELES/OXNARD FORECAST OFFICES, OPTED TO HOLD OFF ON ANY  
INTRODUCTION OF A RISK GIVEN DRY ANTECEDENT CONDITIONS AND STILL  
PLENTY OF UNCERTAINTY IN THE FORECAST. THIS ACTIVITY SHOULD  
EVENTUALLY EXPAND INLAND OVER THE SOUTHWEST LATER NEXT WEEK.  
 
IN THE NORTHERN STREAM, LEAD/AMPLIFIED UPPER TROUGHING IS SLATED  
TO INCREASINGLY SHIFT FROM THE NORTHEAST TO THE NORTHERN ATLANTIC  
TUESDAY ONWARD AS PRIMARILY A MARITIME LOW DEVELOPER WITH AN  
INCREASING OFFSHORE WEATHER FOCUS. HIGH PRESSURE WILL LINGER OVER  
MUCH OF THE EAST IN THE WAKE OF THIS SYSTEM. WELL UPSTREAM, UPPER  
TROUGH AND SURFACE SYSTEM ENERGIES ARE EXPECTED TO WORK ACROSS THE  
PACIFIC NORTHWEST/NORTHWEST THROUGH THE NORTHERN ROCKIES EARLY-MID  
NEXT WEEK THEN AGAIN LATE WEEK TO SUPPORT MODEST TO TERRAIN  
ENHANCED MODERATE RAINS/SNOWS ACROSS THE REGION.  
 
SANTORELLI/SCHICHTEL  
 
ADDITIONAL 3-7 DAY HAZARD INFORMATION CAN BE FOUND ON THE WPC  
MEDIUM RANGE HAZARDS OUTLOOK CHART AT:  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/THREATS/THREATS.PHP  
 
WPC MEDIUM RANGE 500MB HEIGHTS, SURFACE SYSTEMS, WEATHER GRIDS,  
QUANTITATIVE PRECIPITATION FORECAST, EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OUTLOOK,  
WINTER WEATHER OUTLOOK PROBABILITIES, HEAT INDICES AND KEY  
MESSAGES ARE AT:  
 
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST500_WBG.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST_WBG_CONUS.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/5KM_GRIDS/5KM_GRIDSBODY.HTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/QPF/DAY4-7.SHTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/#PAGE=ERO  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/WWD/PWPF_D47/PWPF_MEDR.PHP?DAY=4  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/HEAT_INDEX.SHTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/#PAGE=OVW  
 

 
 

 
 
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