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FXUS02 KWBC 171859  
PMDEPD  
 
EXTENDED FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NWS WEATHER PREDICTION CENTER COLLEGE PARK MD  
158 PM EST FRI NOV 17 2023  
 
VALID 12Z MON NOV 20 2023 - 12Z FRI NOV 24 2023  
   
..PATTERN OVERVIEW
 
 
THE DOMINANT FOCUS OF NEXT WEEK'S FORECAST WILL BE A DEEPENING  
STORM SYSTEM FORECAST TO TRACK FROM THE SOUTH-CENTRAL PLAINS  
THROUGH THE GREAT LAKES AND INTO EAST-CENTRAL CANADA, IN RESPONSE  
TO DIGGING WESTERN CANADA ENERGY THAT COULD PHASE WITH AN INITIAL  
PLAINS UPPER LOW/TROUGH. THIS SHOULD YIELD A DEEP UPPER LOW  
SOMEWHERE BETWEEN THE UPPER MIDWEST/GREAT LAKES AND SOUTHERN  
CANADA BY WEDNESDAY. THE UPPER LOW AND TROUGH TO THE SOUTH SHOULD  
GRADUALLY LIFT NORTHWARD LATE IN THE WEEK WHILE A SHORTWAVE TROUGH  
MOVES INTO THE WEST. THIS EVOLUTION WOULD BRING A WINDY STORM  
SYSTEM WITH POTENTIAL FOR SIGNIFICANT PRECIPITATION OVER THE  
EASTERN HALF OF THE COUNTRY DURING THE FIRST HALF OF THE WEEK,  
FOLLOWED BY AN EXPANDING AREA OF BELOW NORMAL TEMPERATURES OVER  
MANY AREAS EAST OF THE ROCKIES WITH VERY UNCERTAIN HEAVY LAKE  
EFFECT SNOW POTENTIAL TO THE LEE OF THE GREAT LAKES. THE WEST WILL  
BE FAIRLY DRY BUT NORTHERN AREAS MAY SEE SOME PRECIPITATION AS THE  
LATE WEEK TROUGH MOVES IN.  
   
..GUIDANCE EVALUATION/PREDICTABILITY ASSESSMENT
 
 
THERE REMAINS A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF UNCERTAINTY SURROUNDING THE  
EVOLUTION OF THE FORECAST IN THE CENTRAL-EASTERN PART OF THE  
NATION NEXT WEEK. BASED ON THE 00Z/06Z GUIDANCE, THERE WAS  
SUFFICIENT AGREEMENT ON EVENTUAL PHASING OF NORTHERN STREAM ENERGY  
THROUGH CENTRAL CANADA AND A SOUTHERN STREAM LOW/TROUGH IN THE  
PLAINS RESULTING IN A DEEP LOW OVER THE GREAT LAKES AROUND MID TO  
LATER NEXT WEEK. THIS KIND OF EVOLUTION WOULD SUPPORT SIGNIFICANT  
EASTERN U.S. PRECIPITATION POTENTIAL EARLY NEXT WEEK, FOLLOWED BY  
HEAVY LAKE EFFECT SNOWS DOWNWIND OF LAKES ERIE AND ONTARIO NEXT  
THURSDAY/THANKSGIVING. THE 06Z GFS WAS AN OUTLIER SHOWING SLIGHTLY  
LESS PHASING AND A MORE NEGATIVE TILT TO THE SOUTHERN STREAM  
SYSTEM INTO THE MID-ATLANTIC AND DEVELOPMENT OF A DEEPENING  
SURFACE LOW OFF THE NORTHEAST COAST. THE WPC FORECAST FROM THIS  
MORNING WAS BASED ON THE 00Z/06Z GUIDANCE, UTILIZING GOOD  
AGREEMENT THE FIRST HALF OF THE WEEK FOR A PURELY DETERMINISTIC  
BLEND AND INCREASING USAGE OF THE ENSEMBLE MEANS AMIDST INCREASING  
UNCERTAINTY IN THE DETAILS OF THE UPPER LOW/PHASING AND ALSO  
ADDITIONAL SHORT WAVE ENERGY INTO THE WEST. THIS HELPED MAINTAIN  
GOOD CONTINUITY WITH THE PREVIOUS WPC FORECAST AS WELL.  
 
THE NEW 12Z GUIDANCE (AVAILABLE AFTER FORECAST GENERATION TIME)  
HAS TRENDED MUCH LESS PHASED NOW WITH THIS SYSTEM AND THE SPEED OF  
THE NORTHERN STREAM TROUGH IN THE 12Z GFS AND CMC HAS SPED UP  
SIGNIFICANTLY, POSSIBLY NOT EVEN ALLOWING THE SOUTHERN STREAM  
PORTION TO CATCH UP. THIS BRINGS A FLATTER PATTERN ACROSS THE  
NORTHEAST LATE WEEK AND DECREASES POTENTIAL FOR SIGNIFICANT LAKE  
EFFECT SNOWFALL ACROSS THE GREAT LAKES NEXT WEEK. HOWEVER, THE 12Z  
ECMWF CONTINUES TO SUPPORT A MORE PHASED SOLUTION BUT MAY BE MORE  
IN THE MINORITY NOW. NEEDLESS TO SAY, THE OVERALL PATTERN ACROSS  
THE CENTRAL AND EASTERN U.S. DURING THE UPCOMING HOLIDAY WEEK  
REMAINS VERY UNCERTAIN BUT THERE REMAINS SOME POTENTIAL FOR RATHER  
IMPACTFUL WEATHER TO AFFECT TRAVEL LEADING UP TO AND INCLUDING THE  
THANKSGIVING HOLIDAY ACROSS THE EASTERN U.S. AND GREAT LAKES  
REGIONS.  
   
..WEATHER/HAZARDS HIGHLIGHTS
 
 
HEAVY RAINFALL POTENTIAL WILL INCREASE ACROSS THE SOUTH-CENTRAL TO  
EASTERN U.S. FOR THE UPCOMING HOLIDAY WEEK AS A DEEPENING LOW  
PRESSURE SYSTEM TRACKS FROM THE SOUTH-CENTRAL PLAINS THROUGH THE  
GREAT LAKES. ALSO THE TIGHTENING PRESSURE GRADIENT BEHIND THE LOW  
SHOULD PRODUCE A PERIOD OF HIGH WINDS ACROSS THE HIGH PLAINS EARLY  
NEXT WEEK, WITH LESS EXTREME BUT STILL BRISK TO STRONG WINDS  
ACROSS THE PLAINS AND INTO THE GREAT LAKES. INSTABILITY AHEAD OF  
THE SYSTEM COULD BRING SEVERE WEATHER POTENTIAL TO THE CENTRAL  
GULF COAST AROUND MONDAY, AS HIGHLIGHTED BY STORM PREDICTION  
CENTER OUTLOOKS. WITH THE SOUTHERN TIER CONVECTIVE POTENTIAL, THE  
DAY 4 EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OUTLOOK COVERING MONDAY-MONDAY NIGHT  
MAINTAINS A MARGINAL RISK AREA TO REFLECT THE ONGOING SIGNAL FOR  
ORGANIZED AND POSSIBLY HEAVY RAINFALL, DESPITE FAIRLY DRY  
ANTECEDENT CONDITIONS. FOR THE DAY 5 ERO (TUESDAY-TUESDAY NIGHT),  
A MARGINAL RISK AREA HAS BEEN MAINTAINED FROM THE PREVIOUS  
ISSUANCE FROM THE MID-ATLANTIC SOUTHWEST INTO ALABAMA AS ABUNDANT  
MOISTURE SHOULD STREAM INTO THE SOUTHERN AND EASTERN U.S. AHEAD OF  
THE MISSISSIPPI VALLEY-GREAT LAKES STORM/FRONTAL SYSTEM. WHILE  
ACTIVITY WILL BE FAIRLY PROGRESSIVE AND GROUND CONDITIONS WILL  
START OUT ON THE DRY SIDE, LOCALIZED RUNOFF ISSUES WILL BE  
POSSIBLE. WITHIN THIS OVERALL AREA, THE MID-ATLANTIC MAY BE A  
LITTLE MORE SENSITIVE GIVEN THE COMBINATION OF HIGHEST QPF SIGNALS  
IN MODEL/ENSEMBLE GUIDANCE AND POTENTIAL FOR IMPAIRED DRAINAGE DUE  
TO LEAVES/URBANIZATION/ETC. PRECIPITATION WILL CONTINUE THROUGH  
NEW ENGLAND BY MIDWEEK. SNOW WILL BE POSSIBLE ON THE FAR NORTHWEST  
PERIPHERY OF THE MOISTURE SHIELD, AND POTENTIALLY IN NEW ENGLAND  
AT THE START OF THE EVENT. A PERIOD OF LAKE EFFECT SNOW WILL BE  
POSSIBLE AFTER SYSTEM PASSAGE, WITH DURATION AND TOTALS DEPENDENT  
ON HOW QUICKLY THE SYSTEMS LIFTS AWAY. A MORE PHASED SYSTEM AS  
DESCRIBED ABOVE, WOULD RESULT IN POSSIBLY SIGNIFICANT SNOWFALL  
TOTALS ESPECIALLY DOWNWIND OF LAKES ERIE AND ONTARIO FOR  
THANKSGIVING, BUT THIS REMAINS HIGHLY UNCERTAIN THOUGH COULD BE  
PARTICULARLY IMPACTFUL GIVEN THE UPCOMING HOLIDAY. THE ROCKIES MAY  
SEE LINGERING PRECIPITATION EARLY IN THE WEEK. OTHERWISE THE WEST  
SHOULD BE DRY EARLY-MID WEEK. A SYSTEM MOVING INTO THE REGION LATE  
IN THE WEEK MAY BRING MOSTLY LIGHT TOTALS ACROSS NORTHERN AREAS,  
POSSIBLY EXTENDING INTO THE PLAINS FRIDAY. SOME OF THE LATEST  
GUIDANCE SUGGESTS SOME HEAVY SNOWFALL POTENTIAL FOR PARTS OF THE  
NORTHERN ROCKIES AROUND THANKSGIVING, BUT STILL WITH A LOT OF  
UNCERTAINTY IN THE DETAILS.  
 
THE MAIN STORY FOR TEMPERATURES WILL BE THE INCREASING COVERAGE OF  
BELOW NORMAL READINGS FROM THE NORTHERN-CENTRAL HIGH PLAINS  
EASTWARD MID-LATE WEEK. BY THAT TIME EXPECT LOCATIONS FROM THE  
HIGH PLAINS INTO GREAT LAKES TO SEE ONE OR MORE DAYS WITH HIGHS  
10-20F BELOW NORMAL. THE WEST WILL TREND FROM NEAR OR SLIGHTLY  
BELOW NORMAL EARLY IN THE WEEK TO MODERATELY ABOVE NORMAL  
WEDNESDAY, AND THEN DRIFT BACK TO NEAR OR SLIGHTLY BELOW NORMAL  
TOWARD THE END OF THE WEEK.  
 
SANTORELLI/RAUSCH  
 
ADDITIONAL 3-7 DAY HAZARD INFORMATION CAN BE FOUND ON THE WPC  
MEDIUM RANGE HAZARDS OUTLOOK CHART AT:  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/THREATS/THREATS.PHP  
 
WPC MEDIUM RANGE 500MB HEIGHTS, SURFACE SYSTEMS, WEATHER GRIDS,  
QUANTITATIVE PRECIPITATION FORECAST, EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OUTLOOK,  
WINTER WEATHER OUTLOOK PROBABILITIES, HEAT INDICES AND KEY  
MESSAGES ARE AT:  
 
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST500_WBG.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST_WBG_CONUS.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/5KM_GRIDS/5KM_GRIDSBODY.HTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/QPF/DAY4-7.SHTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/#PAGE=ERO  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/WWD/PWPF_D47/PWPF_MEDR.PHP?DAY=4  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/HEAT_INDEX.SHTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/#PAGE=OVW  
 

 
 

 
 
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