962  
FXUS02 KWBC 190700  
PMDEPD  
 
EXTENDED FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NWS WEATHER PREDICTION CENTER COLLEGE PARK MD  
200 AM EST SUN NOV 19 2023  
 
VALID 12Z WED NOV 22 2023 - 12Z SUN NOV 26 2023  
   
..PATTERN OVERVIEW
 
 
BEHIND A SYSTEM FORECAST TO TRACK OVER/NEAR NEW ENGLAND ON  
WEDNESDAY, AN UPPER RIDGE OVER THE WEST WILL QUICKLY GIVE WAY TO A  
SHORTWAVE TROUGH WHILE AN UPPER RIDGE SETTING UP OVER THE EASTERN  
PACIFIC/NORTHWESTERN NORTH AMERICA WILL ULTIMATELY TEND TO FAVOR  
INCREASINGLY LARGE SCALE TROUGHING THAT SHOULD BE ALIGNED FROM  
NEAR HUDSON BAY SOUTHWEST INTO THE WESTERN U.S. BY THE END OF NEXT  
WEEKEND. EXPECT THIS EVOLUTION TO BRING COLDER TEMPERATURES TO  
THE CENTRAL U.S. IN PARTICULAR BY FRIDAY-SUNDAY, WITH MANY OTHER  
AREAS TRENDING COOLER AS WELL. THE NEW ENGLAND SYSTEM WILL BRING  
SOME PRECIPITATION TO THE EAST COAST WHILE THE TROUGH REACHING THE  
WEST BY THANKSGIVING WILL SPREAD AN AREA OF SNOW ACROSS THE  
NORTH-CENTRAL ROCKIES. SOME OF THIS MOISTURE MAY CONTINUE  
EASTWARD BY NEXT WEEKEND WITH A WAVE/FRONTAL SYSTEM WHILE A  
POTENTIAL LEADING WAVE COULD ALSO SPREAD SOME PRECIPITATION CLOSER  
TO THE EAST COAST. THERE IS ALSO A VERY UNCERTAIN POTENTIAL OF  
SOME SOUTHERN EASTERN U.S. RAINFALL FROM A WAVE BEHIND THE LEADING  
EAST COAST SYSTEM.  
   
..GUIDANCE EVALUATION/PREDICTABILITY ASSESSMENT
 
 
THE MODELS AND ENSEMBLES CONTINUE TO HAVE DIFFICULTY IN RESOLVING  
IMPORTANT DETAILS OF THE FORECAST. THIS INCLUDES THE FORECAST OF  
INITIAL TROUGH ENERGY REACHING THE EASTERN U.S. BY MIDWEEK AND HOW  
CORRESPONDING EAST COAST LOW PRESSURE EVOLVES, TRAILING NORTHERN  
MEXICO TROUGH ENERGY AND ITS ROLE IN THE SURFACE/QPF PATTERN, AS  
WELL AS THE COMBINATION OF THE MEAN UPPER LOW OVER  
CANADA/SURROUNDING FLOW PLUS TROUGHING THAT MOVES INTO THE WEST.  
GIVEN THE DIVERGENT MODEL SOLUTIONS, THE UPDATED FORECAST USING  
12Z/18Z DATA AGAIN RELIED MORE THAN USUAL ON THE 18Z GEFS/12Z  
ECENS MEANS, ADDING IN SOME 12Z ECMWF EARLY IN THE PERIOD AND SOME  
18Z GFS MID-LATE PERIOD AFTER ITS QUESTIONABLE TRAITS OVER THE  
NORTHEAST (BRINGING ACROSS MUCH LOWER HEIGHTS THAN CONSENSUS) EXIT  
THE FORECAST DOMAIN.  
 
GUIDANCE STILL HAS NO COHERENT IDEAS FOR EXACTLY HOW TROUGH ENERGY  
MOVING INTO THE EAST WILL LOOK AT THE START OF THE PERIOD  
WEDNESDAY. THE GFS/UKMET STILL DIG MORE NORTHERN STREAM ENERGY  
INTO THE SOUTHERN TIER U.S. BY THE START OF THE PERIOD, LEADING TO  
A FARTHER SOUTH TRACK OF LOW PRESSURE NEAR NEW ENGLAND (EAST OF  
CAPE COD) BY EARLY THURSDAY. IN CONTRAST, THE 00Z CMC IS A FAST  
EXTREME, WELL INTO THE CANADIAN MARITIMES. THE ENSEMBLE MEANS  
PROVIDE A REASONABLE INTERMEDIATE AND MORE CONSISTENT SOLUTION FOR  
THE TIME BEING.  
 
OVER THE PAST DAY OR SO THERE HAS BEEN A GRADUALLY INCREASING  
SIGNAL FOR NORTHERN MEXICO ENERGY TO EJECT NORTHEASTWARD BY THE  
LATTER HALF OF THE WEEK, BUT WITH VERY DIFFERENT IMPACTS IN TERMS  
OF THE SURFACE REFLECTION AND RESULTING QPF. IN GENERAL THE  
LATEST CMC RUNS HAVE BEEN MOST PRONOUNCED WITH ASSOCIATED SURFACE  
WAVINESS AND RAINFALL AMOUNTS/COVERAGE. INTERESTINGLY, THE 12Z  
CYCLE OF ECMWF-INITIALIZED MACHINE LEARNING MODELS SHOW A  
WELL-DEFINED SOUTHERN STREAM UPPER LOW/TROUGH PROGRESSING ALONG  
FASTER THAN THE CURRENT CLUSTER OF DYNAMICAL GUIDANCE, BUT WITH NO  
HINT OF A GFS/UKMET TYPE EVOLUTION EITHER.  
 
GUIDANCE STILL SHOWS SOME SPREAD FOR THE UPPER TROUGH ARRIVING  
INTO THE WEST AND THEN HOW NORTHERN STREAM FLOW (PLUS THE  
CANADIAN/NORTHERN TIER TROUGH) MAY INTERACT. THERE WAS SOME  
IMPROVED CLUSTERING AS NEW 00Z RUNS WERE COMING IN BUT THE ECMWF  
HAS TRENDED TO A MORE PRONOUNCED CLOSED LOW AND GREATER STREAM  
SEPARATION THAN MOST OTHER GUIDANCE BY LATE FRIDAY. WITH A FAIR  
AMOUNT OF VARIABILITY, THERE HAS BEEN A GENERAL SIGNAL IN  
MODELS/MEANS TOWARD A WAVY FRONTAL SYSTEM REACHING THE  
EAST-CENTRAL U.S. BY SATURDAY AND MORE RECENTLY A LEADING WAVE  
NEAR THE EAST COAST. THESE FEATURES SHOULD CONTINUE ONWARD INTO  
SUNDAY.  
   
..WEATHER/HAZARDS HIGHLIGHTS
 
 
WHILE THERE IS STILL LOWER THAN AVERAGE CONFIDENCE FOR HOW THE  
SYSTEM AFFECTING NEW ENGLAND ON WEDNESDAY (AND WITH LOWER  
PROBABILITY INTO THANKSGIVING) MAY EVOLVE/TRACK, POTENTIAL STILL  
EXISTS FOR A PERIOD OF STRONG ONSHORE FLOW OVER PARTS OF EASTERN  
NEW ENGLAND. THE NEW DAY 4 EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OUTLOOK THAT COVERS  
THE WEDNESDAY-WEDNESDAY NIGHT PERIOD MAINTAINS A MARGINAL RISK  
AREA OVER EASTERN NEW ENGLAND TO REFLECT THE POSSIBILITY THAT ANY  
ENHANCED BANDS OF RAINFALL COULD LEAD TO LOCALIZED RUNOFF ISSUES  
WHERE DRAINAGE IS IMPAIRED DUE TO URBANIZATION/LEAVES/ETC.  
HOWEVER INITIALLY DRY SOIL CONDITIONS SHOULD OTHERWISE TEMPER WHAT  
THREATS MAY EXIST.  
 
ELSEWHERE, SNOW WILL BE POSSIBLE OVER PARTS OF INTERIOR NEW  
ENGLAND WITH THE WEDNESDAY SYSTEM AND A BRIEF PERIOD OF LAKE  
EFFECT SNOW WILL BE POSSIBLE AFTER SYSTEM PASSAGE. WITH VERY  
UNCERTAIN DETAILS, A TRAILING WAVE MAY PRODUCE SOME RAINFALL OVER  
PARTS OF THE SOUTH/EAST DURING THE LATTER HALF OF THE WEEK. OVER  
THE WEST, A SYSTEM MOVING INTO THE REGION LATE IN THE WEEK SHOULD  
BRING AN AREA OF SNOW ACROSS THE NORTH-CENTRAL ROCKIES ESPECIALLY  
AROUND THANKSGIVING, WITH SOME LOCALIZED ENHANCEMENT POSSIBLE.  
SOME RAIN/SNOW MAY EXTEND EAST OF THE ROCKIES THEREAFTER WITH A  
WAVY FRONTAL SYSTEM EVENTUALLY REACHING THE EAST AND A SEPARATE  
COASTAL WAVE COULD ALSO SPREAD MOISTURE OVER PARTS OF THE EAST.  
 
COLDER AIR DROPPING SOUTH OVER THE PLAINS/EASTERN SLOPES OF THE  
ROCKIES FROM FRIDAY INTO THE WEEKEND SHOULD SHOULD BRING HIGHS  
DOWN TO 10-20F BELOW NORMAL OVER THAT REGION. BELOW NORMAL  
ANOMALIES WILL SPREAD ELSEWHERE AS WELL, WITH THE INTERIOR WEST  
HIGHS TRENDING TO 5-10F BELOW NORMAL LATE WEEK INTO THE WEEKEND  
AND THE MISSISSIPPI VALLEY PLUS PARTS OF THE OHIO VALLEY AT LEAST  
10F BELOW NORMAL BY SUNDAY. THIS WILL BE A SIGNIFICANT CHANGE  
FROM ABOVE NORMAL TEMPERATURES OVER THE HIGH PLAINS INTO THE WEST  
ON WEDNESDAY. THE SOUTH AND EAST WILL SEE A BRIEF PERIOD OF BELOW  
NORMAL TEMPERATURES AND FOLLOWED BY A REBOUND TOWARD NORMAL VALUES.  
 
RAUSCH  
 
ADDITIONAL 3-7 DAY HAZARD INFORMATION CAN BE FOUND ON THE WPC  
MEDIUM RANGE HAZARDS OUTLOOK CHART AT:  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/THREATS/THREATS.PHP  
 
WPC MEDIUM RANGE 500MB HEIGHTS, SURFACE SYSTEMS, WEATHER GRIDS,  
QUANTITATIVE PRECIPITATION FORECAST, EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OUTLOOK,  
WINTER WEATHER OUTLOOK PROBABILITIES, HEAT INDICES AND KEY  
MESSAGES ARE AT:  
 
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST500_WBG.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST_WBG_CONUS.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/5KM_GRIDS/5KM_GRIDSBODY.HTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/QPF/DAY4-7.SHTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/#PAGE=ERO  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/WWD/PWPF_D47/PWPF_MEDR.PHP?DAY=4  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/HEAT_INDEX.SHTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/#PAGE=OVW  
 

 
 

 
 
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