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FXUS02 KWBC 221858  
PMDEPD  
 
EXTENDED FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NWS WEATHER PREDICTION CENTER COLLEGE PARK MD  
157 PM EST WED NOV 22 2023  
 
VALID 12Z SAT NOV 25 2023 - 12Z WED NOV 29 2023  
 
...MEANINGFUL SNOW LIKELY SATURDAY ACROSS PARTS OF THE  
SOUTH-CENTRAL PLAINS...  
 
   
..OVERVIEW
 
 
EASTERN PACIFIC INTO NORTHWESTERN NORTH AMERICA UPPER RIDGING THAT  
DRIFTS AT LEAST TO THE WEST COAST BY NEXT WEEK WILL PROMOTE A  
DEEPER/BROADER MEAN TROUGH EXTENDING FROM CANADA INTO THE LOWER 48  
EAST OF THE ROCKIES. MEANWHILE INITIAL WESTERN U.S. TROUGH ENERGY  
SHOULD SPLIT, WITH SOME OF IT CONTINUING EASTWARD/PHASING WITH AN  
AMPLIFYING CANADIAN SHORTWAVE AND THE REST ELONGATING FOR A TIME  
OVER THE SOUTHWESTERN U.S. WITH SOME UNCERTAINTY AS TO ITS  
ULTIMATE SHAPE NEXT WEEK. BUT ON SATURDAY, THE UPPER ENERGY  
INITIALLY INITIALLY EMERGING FROM THE WEST LOOKS TO PRODUCE AN  
AREA OF SNOW OVER THE SOUTH-CENTRAL PLAINS (AND LINGERING OVER THE  
ROCKIES) WITH SOME RAIN TO THE SOUTH. AT THE SURFACE THERE IS A  
CONTINUED THEME OF WAVINESS NEAR/SOUTH OF THE GULF COAST AND CLOSE  
TO THE EAST COAST, BRINGING SOME POTENTIAL FOR PRECIPITATION ALONG  
THOSE COASTS BUT WITH LACK OF CONFIDENCE IN THE SPECIFICS.  
NORTHERN STREAM FRONTS/WAVES WILL NOT COINCIDE WITH MUCH MOISTURE  
AND SHOULD PRODUCE LIGHT PRECIPITATION IF ANY. LAKE EFFECT  
PRECIPITATION IS LIKELY THOUGH THROUGH THE FIRST HALF OF NEXT WEEK.  
 
   
..GUIDANCE EVALUATION/PREDICTABILITY ASSESSMENT
 
 
GUIDANCE CONTINUES TO SHOW DIFFICULTY IN RESOLVING SOME OF THE  
DETAILS WITHIN THE MORE AGREEABLE LARGE SCALE EVOLUTION. RECENT  
GUIDANCE CONTINUES TO SHOW INDICATIONS OF A COMPACT SURFACE LOW  
DEVELOPING OFF THE SOUTHEAST COAST DURING THE WEEKEND IN RESPONSE  
TO WEAK SOUTHERN STREAM ENERGY AND THEN LIFTING FAIRLY QUICKLY  
NORTH/NORTHEAST THROUGH THE WESTERN ATLANTIC AS THE OVERALL CANADA  
INTO CENTRAL U.S. TROUGH APPROACHES. CMC RUNS (00Z, THE NEW 12Z,  
AND MANY CMC ENSEMBLE MEMBERS) TEND TO BE FARTHER WEST WITH ITS  
TRACK, AND UKMET RUNS ARE FARTHER WEST AS WELL. THE 00Z ECMWF  
SEEMED TO BE A REASONABLE MIDDLE GROUND GIVEN THE 00/06Z GFS RUNS  
WERE EAST. THE 12Z GFS/GEFS MEAN TRENDED A BIT WEST FROM THE  
00Z/06Z POSITIONS, WHICH PUTS THEM CLOSER TO THE EC, SO THIS TRACK  
WAS FAVORED. THE SURFACE LOW LOOKS TO TRACK TO THE NORTH OF MAINE  
BY EARLY TUESDAY AND STRENGTHEN AS IT COMBINES WITH AMPLIFYING  
CANADIAN TROUGH ENERGY AND POSSIBLY ANOTHER SURFACE LOW. THE  
PATTERN ALOFT SHOWS INCREASING SPREAD AS THE 00Z AND 06Z GFS  
CONCENTRATE A DEEP UPPER LOW CROSSING NORTHERN NEW ENGLAND. THE  
12Z GFS BACKED OFF ON THIS, BUT OVERALL GUIDANCE HAS BEEN  
DIVERGENT AND ERRATIC WITH THE PLACEMENT OF SHORTWAVES AND THUS  
FRONTS WITHIN THE BROADER TROUGH BY THE 6-7 DAY TIME FRAME  
(TUESDAY-WEDNESDAY). CHANGES TO FRONTAL PLACEMENT ARE LIKELY IN  
FUTURE FORECASTS GIVEN THE VARYING GUIDANCE.  
 
FARTHER WEST, MODELS SHOW SOME DIFFERENCES WITH MID-UPPER ENERGY  
PULLING OFF INTO THE SOUTHWEST EARLY NEXT WEEK, WITH THE 00Z UKMET  
SEEMINGLY AN OUTLIER WITH A FARTHER NORTH POSITION OF AN UPPER LOW  
CLOSING OFF AROUND MONDAY WHERE THE BULK OF OTHER GUIDANCE HAS  
RIDGING SNEAKING IN TOWARD THE WEST COAST. UPSTREAM, AS A CLOSED  
LOW TRACKS EAST THROUGH THE PACIFIC, THE 00Z AND 06Z GFS SHOWED A  
FARTHER WEST POSITION OF THIS FEATURE ALLOWING FOR A WIDER RIDGE  
AXIS COMPARED TO THE WELL-CLUSTERED ECMWF AND CMC. THE 12Z GFS AND  
GEFS MEAN HAVE BOTH TRENDED EAST AND ARE MORE AGREEABLE WITH THE  
LOW/TROUGH TO RIDGE POSITIONS NOW.  
 
THE WPC FORECAST UTILIZED A MODEL BLEND OF THE 00Z ECMWF, 06Z GFS,  
00Z CMC, AND 00Z UKMET (IN ORDER OF MOST TO LEAST WEIGHTING) EARLY  
IN THE FORECAST PERIOD. PHASED OUT THE UKMET AND DECREASED THE  
PROPORTION OF THE CMC AND GFS FIRST AND EVENTUALLY THE ECMWF AS  
LEAD TIME AND SPREAD INCREASED, IN FAVOR OF MORE GEFS AND EC  
ENSEMBLE MEAN GUIDANCE THAT ARE LESS PRONE TO THE WAFFLING THAT  
DETERMINISTIC MODELS SHOW.  
 
   
..WEATHER/HAZARDS HIGHLIGHTS
 
 
THE UPPER SYSTEM EMERGING FROM THE WEST MAY PRODUCE A FAIRLY  
LOCALIZED AREA OF MEANINGFUL SNOWFALL OVER THE CENTRAL PLAINS  
AROUND SATURDAY. LATEST PROBABILITIES FOR AT LEAST A QUARTER INCH  
OF LIQUID IN THE FORM OF SNOW SHOW THE BEST POTENTIAL CENTERED  
OVER WEST-CENTRAL KANSAS, WITH A SLIGHT SHIFT SOUTHWARD IN THIS  
FORECAST ISSUANCE TO INCLUDE FAR NORTHERN OKLAHOMA PER THE MODEL  
TRENDS. LIGHTER SNOW ACTIVITY COULD LINGER OVER THE SOUTH-CENTRAL  
ROCKIES. SOME RAIN MAY BE POSSIBLE OVER THE SOUTHERN PLAINS. THEN  
A FRONT MAY CARRY REMAINING MOISTURE EASTWARD INTO SUNDAY BUT  
LIKELY WITH FAIRLY LIGHT AMOUNTS. LOW PRESSURE DEVELOPING OFF THE  
SOUTHEAST COAST DURING THE WEEKEND SHOULD LIFT NORTHEAST  
THEREAFTER. COASTAL NORTH CAROLINA COULD SEE SOME RAIN WITH THIS  
SYSTEM WHILE CONFIDENCE REMAINS BELOW AVERAGE FOR HOW MUCH  
PRECIPITATION OCCURS AS WELL AS THE PRECIPITATION TYPE OVER THE  
NORTHEAST. A PASSING WAVE/FRONT AROUND SUNDAY-MONDAY AND THEN  
TRAILING FLOW AND POSSIBLY ANOTHER SYSTEM SHOULD PRODUCE EPISODES  
OF GREAT LAKES SNOW FROM A COMBINATION OF LAKE EFFECT AND SYNOPTIC  
INFLUENCES. THE GULF COAST/FLORIDA MAY SEE A REBOUND IN RAINFALL  
POTENTIAL TOWARD MIDWEEK BUT WITH LOW CONFIDENCE IN SPECIFICS AT  
THIS TIME. POTENTIAL FOR ORGANIZED HEAVY RAINFALL REMAINS TOO LOW  
TO WARRANT ANY RISK AREAS ON THE DAY 4 AND DAY 5 EXCESSIVE  
RAINFALL OUTLOOKS.  
 
IN A FAIRLY COOL PATTERN OVER A MAJORITY OF THE LOWER 48 FROM THE  
WEEKEND INTO THE MIDDLE OF NEXT WEEK, THE MOST EXTREME TEMPERATURE  
ANOMALIES SHOULD BE OVER THE EASTERN SLOPES OF THE CENTRAL ROCKIES  
INTO CENTRAL PLAINS ON SATURDAY WITH HIGHS 15-25F BELOW NORMAL.  
SOME OF THIS COLD AIR WILL CONTINUE SOUTHWARD INTO THE SOUTHERN  
PLAINS THEREAFTER WITH HIGHS AT LEAST 10-15F BELOW NORMAL  
SUNDAY-MONDAY AND PERHAPS INTO TUESDAY OVER FAR SOUTHERN TEXAS.  
ALSO, DURING THE WEEKEND INTO EARLY NEXT WEEK BRISK WINDS WILL  
MAKE IT FEEL COLDER OVER THE SOUTHWESTERN U.S. AND VICINITY. THE  
REST OF THE CENTRAL U.S. SHOULD MODERATE CLOSE TO NORMAL BY  
TUESDAY WITH NORTHERN PLAINS LOWS POSSIBLY TRENDING ABOVE NORMAL.  
CONTINUE TO EXPECT SLIGHTLY ABOVE NORMAL TEMPERATURES ALONG THE  
CENTRAL-NORTHERN WEST COAST AND PERHAPS EXPANDING A BIT BY THE  
MIDDLE OF NEXT WEEK AS EAST PACIFIC UPPER RIDGING DRIFTS EASTWARD.  
THE EAST COAST WILL LIKELY BE CHILLY ON SATURDAY (HIGHS UP TO  
10-15F BELOW NORMAL OVER THE MID-ATLANTIC INTO NEW ENGLAND), WITH  
MOST OF THE EAST TENDING TO BE NEAR TO SOMEWHAT BELOW NORMAL FOR  
THE REST OF THE PERIOD.  
 
TATE/RAUSCH  
 
ADDITIONAL 3-7 DAY HAZARD INFORMATION CAN BE FOUND ON THE WPC  
MEDIUM RANGE HAZARDS OUTLOOK CHART AT:  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/THREATS/THREATS.PHP  
 
WPC MEDIUM RANGE 500MB HEIGHTS, SURFACE SYSTEMS, WEATHER GRIDS,  
QUANTITATIVE PRECIPITATION FORECAST, EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OUTLOOK,  
WINTER WEATHER OUTLOOK PROBABILITIES, HEAT INDICES AND KEY  
MESSAGES ARE AT:  
 
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST500_WBG.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST_WBG_CONUS.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/5KM_GRIDS/5KM_GRIDSBODY.HTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/QPF/DAY4-7.SHTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/#PAGE=ERO  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/WWD/PWPF_D47/PWPF_MEDR.PHP?DAY=4  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/HEAT_INDEX.SHTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/#PAGE=OVW  
 

 
 

 
 
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