784  
FXUS02 KWBC 230700  
PMDEPD  
 
EXTENDED FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NWS WEATHER PREDICTION CENTER COLLEGE PARK MD  
200 AM EST THU NOV 23 2023  
 
VALID 12Z SUN NOV 26 2023 - 12Z THU NOV 30 2023  
   
..OVERVIEW
 
 
AN UPPER RIDGE INITIALLY EXTENDING FROM THE EASTERN PACIFIC INTO  
NORTHWESTERN NORTH AMERICA AS OF SUNDAY WILL SUPPORT A FAIRLY DEEP  
MEAN TROUGH OVER THE EASTERN HALF OF CANADA AND THE LOWER 48.  
WHILE RIDGING OVER CANADA SHOULD REMAIN FAIRLY STABLE THROUGH THE  
PERIOD, GUIDANCE SHOWS MORE INLAND PROGRESSION AND GRADUAL  
WEAKENING OF THE RIDGE OVER THE WESTERN U.S. FOLLOWED BY THE  
ARRIVAL OF A MODEST TROUGH WITH AN OPENING UPPER LOW. MEANWHILE,  
MODELS/ENSEMBLES ARE STILL HAVING DIFFICULTY IN RESOLVING THE  
EVENTUAL CHARACTER OF WEAK ELONGATED ENERGY OVER THE SOUTHWESTERN  
U.S. AT THE START OF NEXT WEEK. THIS PATTERN EVOLUTION SHOULD KEEP  
A MAJORITY OF THE LOWER 48 ON THE DRY SIDE. THE MAIN  
PRECIPITATION AREAS OF INTEREST WILL BE OVER PARTS OF THE GULF  
COAST STATES WITH A WAVE ON SUNDAY, NEW ENGLAND WITH A BRIEF  
PERIOD OF SOME POTENTIALLY ENHANCED ACTIVITY IN ASSOCIATION WITH A  
COMPACT WAVE BRUSHING THE REGION AROUND MONDAY, AND THE GREAT  
LAKES WHERE LAKE EFFECT SNOW WILL BE POSSIBLE OVER MULTIPLE DAYS.  
ALSO SOME LIGHT PRECIPITATION COULD REACH THE WEST COAST TOWARD  
MIDWEEK WITH THE ARRIVAL OF THE WEAKENING PACIFIC FEATURE.  
 
   
..GUIDANCE EVALUATION/PREDICTABILITY ASSESSMENT
 
 
BASED ON GUIDANCE THROUGH THE 12Z/18Z CYCLES, THE PREFERRED  
SOLUTION STARTED WITH A BLEND OF MOSTLY 18Z-12Z GFS/12Z ECMWF WITH  
A SMALL CONTRIBUTION OF THE 12Z CMC FOR DAYS 3-4 SUNDAY-MONDAY AND  
THEN TRANSITIONED TOWARD A DAY 7 BLEND CONSISTING OF EVEN WEIGHT  
AMONG THE 12Z GFS/18Z GEFS MEAN AND 12Z ECMWF/ECENS MEAN. AS OF  
THE TIME OF FORECAST PREPARATION, THE GFS/ECMWF AND THEIR MEANS  
HAD GENERALLY BEEN THE MOST CONSISTENT AND IN THE SLIGHT MAJORITY  
FOR THE TRACK AND TIMING OF THE COMPACT WAVE FORECAST TO DEVELOP  
OFFSHORE THE CAROLINAS ON SUNDAY AND TRACK SLIGHTLY OFFSHORE THE  
NEW ENGLAND COAST AS STRONG UPSTREAM TROUGHING APPROACHES. RECENT  
UKMET RUNS AND SPORADIC CMC RUNS (INCLUDING THE NEW 00Z VERSION)  
HAVE BEEN SHOWING A MORE COASTAL TRACK. LATEST TRENDS ARE  
INCREASING POTENTIAL FOR THE WESTERN SIDE OF THE SPREAD AS THE NEW  
00Z GFS HAS JOINED THE UKMET/CMC WHILE THE 00Z ECMWF HAS MADE A  
SUBTLE WESTWARD NUDGE. MEANWHILE ANOTHER VIGOROUS WAVE SHOULD  
BRUSH THE UPPER GREAT LAKES SUNDAY-SUNDAY NIGHT AND ULTIMATELY  
MERGE WITH THE COASTAL WAVE TO THE NORTH OF MAINE. BEHIND THESE  
SYSTEMS, THERE IS STILL SOME AMBIGUITY OVER SURFACE FRONTS/WAVES,  
REFLECTIVE OF SHORTWAVE DETAIL UNCERTAINTIES. AT LEAST THE FAVORED  
BLEND WAS ABLE TO MAINTAIN SOME DEGREE OF CONTINUITY WITH THE  
THEME OF A GENERAL AREA OF LOW PRESSURE (ONE OR TWO DISTINCT  
WAVES) REACHING THE UPPER MIDWEST/GREAT LAKES BY DAY 6 WEDNESDAY.  
TRAILING NORTHERN TIER DETAILS BY THE END OF THE PERIOD COME DOWN  
TO ORIENTATION OF FLOW ALOFT, WITH THE 18Z GFS BEING MOST  
PRONOUNCED IN BRINGING UPPER RIDGING INTO THE CENTRAL U.S. IN  
CONTRAST TO THE 12Z ECMWF'S MORE PERSISTENT CYCLONIC FLOW. THE  
ENSEMBLE MEANS ARE GENERALLY BETWEEN THESE EXTREMES AND THE NEW  
00Z GFS HAS ADJUSTED SOMEWHAT SLOWER WITH THE NORTHERN TIER PART  
OF THE UPPER RIDGE. OVER THE WEST, THE UKMET HAS GENERALLY BEEN  
THE LEAST AGREEABLE SOLUTION WITH HOW ITS SOUTHWEST ENERGY  
EVOLVES, HOLDING ONTO AN UPPER LOW LONGER THAN OTHER GUIDANCE,  
THOUGH NOW THE NEW 00Z ECMWF HAS ADJUSTED THAT WAY. THE WEAKENING  
EAST PACIFIC TROUGH/UPPER LOW HAS BEEN INCREMENTALLY TRENDING  
TOWARD BETTER CLUSTERING THOUGH SOME SPREAD REMAINS. THE NEW 00Z  
CMC BECOMES A FAST EXTREME WITH UPSTREAM ENERGY BY NEXT THURSDAY.  
 
   
..WEATHER/HAZARDS HIGHLIGHTS
 
 
A WAVE NEAR THE GULF COAST ON SUNDAY MAY PRODUCE AREAS OF RAINFALL  
WITH VARYING INTENSITY ON SUNDAY, WHILE A SEPARATE WAVE DEVELOPING  
OFF THE CAROLINAS AND LIFTING NORTHWARD MAY BRING SOME LOCALLY  
ENHANCED PRECIPITATION TO THE NORTHERN MID-ATLANTIC COAST AND NEW  
ENGLAND SUNDAY INTO MONDAY. SNOW WILL BE POSSIBLE OVER INTERIOR  
NEW ENGLAND, ESPECIALLY IN HIGHER ELEVATIONS. SPECIFICS ARE STILL  
SUBJECT TO ADJUSTMENT BASED ON THE EXACT SURFACE LOW TRACK. WITH A  
RELATIVE LACK OF INSTABILITY, CURRENTLY EXPECT RAINFALL OVER THE  
ABOVE AREAS NOT TO BE SUFFICIENTLY INTENSE TO WARRANT ANY RISK  
AREAS IN THE DAYS 4-5 EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OUTLOOKS. COLD FLOW  
BEHIND A FRONT CROSSING THE GREAT LAKES AROUND MONDAY WILL LIKELY  
SUPPORT AREAS OF LAKE EFFECT SNOW THAT MAY PERSIST THROUGH AT  
LEAST MIDWEEK. SOME LIGHT PRECIPITATION, MOSTLY RAIN, MAY REACH  
THE CENTRAL-NORTHERN PARTS OF THE WEST COAST BY MIDWEEK WITH THE  
MODEST AND WEAKENING SYSTEM APPROACHING THE REGION AT THAT TIME.  
 
THE START OF THE PERIOD ON SUNDAY WILL SEE MOSTLY BELOW NORMAL  
TEMPERATURES OVER THE LOWER 48 WITH DECENT COVERAGE OF HIGHS  
10-15F BELOW CLIMATOLOGY FROM THE GREAT BASIN INTO THE  
CENTRAL-SOUTHERN PLAINS. AS UPPER TROUGHING BECOMES MORE FOCUSED  
OVER THE EASTERN U.S. AFTER THE WEEKEND, EXPECT THE COLDEST HIGHS  
VERSUS NORMAL TO PROGRESS EASTWARD WHILE THE WESTERN/CENTRAL PARTS  
OF THE COUNTRY MODERATE. FAR SOUTHERN TEXAS SHOULD SEE THE CHILLY  
CONDITIONS INTO MIDWEEK THOUGH. ALSO, FROM LATE WEEKEND INTO  
EARLY NEXT WEEK BRISK WINDS WILL MAKE IT FEEL COLDER OVER THE  
SOUTHWESTERN U.S. AND VICINITY. TOWARD THE EAST COAST SOMEWHAT  
BELOW NORMAL HIGHS WILL LIKELY PERSIST INTO NEXT THURSDAY. ON THE  
OTHER HAND, THE NORTHERN PLAINS WILL START OUT JUST SLIGHTLY BELOW  
NORMAL FOR HIGHS ON SUNDAY (WITH ABOVE NORMAL LOWS) AND THEN TREND  
ABOVE NORMAL FOR MAX/MIN READINGS BY TUESDAY-THURSDAY. THE UPPER  
RIDGE DRIFTING INTO THE NORTHWEST EARLY NEXT WEEK SHOULD PROMOTE  
SLIGHTLY ABOVE NORMAL HIGHS NEAR THE CENTRAL/NORTHERN WEST COAST  
BEFORE A TREND TOWARD NORMAL AS THE RIDGE WEAKENS.  
 
RAUSCH  
 
ADDITIONAL 3-7 DAY HAZARD INFORMATION CAN BE FOUND ON THE WPC  
MEDIUM RANGE HAZARDS OUTLOOK CHART AT:  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/THREATS/THREATS.PHP  
 
WPC MEDIUM RANGE 500MB HEIGHTS, SURFACE SYSTEMS, WEATHER GRIDS,  
QUANTITATIVE PRECIPITATION FORECAST, EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OUTLOOK,  
WINTER WEATHER OUTLOOK PROBABILITIES, HEAT INDICES AND KEY  
MESSAGES ARE AT:  
 
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST500_WBG.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST_WBG_CONUS.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/5KM_GRIDS/5KM_GRIDSBODY.HTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/QPF/DAY4-7.SHTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/#PAGE=ERO  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/WWD/PWPF_D47/PWPF_MEDR.PHP?DAY=4  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/HEAT_INDEX.SHTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/#PAGE=OVW  
 

 
 

 
 
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