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FXUS02 KWBC 010700  
PMDEPD  
 
EXTENDED FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NWS WEATHER PREDICTION CENTER COLLEGE PARK MD  
159 AM EST THU FEB 01 2024  
 
VALID 12Z SUN FEB 04 2024 - 12Z THU FEB 08 2024  
 
...SOUTHERN TIER SYSTEM LIKELY TO SPREAD HEAVY RAIN ACROSS PARTS  
OF THE SOUTHEAST THROUGH AT LEAST SUNDAY...  
 
...ANOTHER STRONG WEATHER SYSTEM INCREASINGLY LIKELY TO IMPACT  
CALIFORNIA BY EARLY NEXT WEEK AND EVENTUALLY SPREAD ACROSS MORE OF  
THE WEST...  
 
   
..OVERVIEW
 
 
WITH SOME PERSISTENT DETAIL DIFFERENCES, GUIDANCE CONTINUES TO  
SHOW AN ACTIVE WEATHER PATTERN FOR THE WEST AT LEAST THROUGH  
MIDWEEK. EXPECT A LARGE SCALE POSITIVELY TILTED MEAN TROUGH TO  
PROMOTE A STRONG SOUTHWESTERLY FLOW OF MOISTURE INTO THE WEST OVER  
A MULTI-DAY TIME FRAME, WITH HEAVIEST RAIN/MOUNTAIN SNOW LIKELY TO  
FOCUS OVER CALIFORNIA. WITH TIME SOME OF THIS MOISTURE SHOULD  
EXTEND INTO PARTS OF THE INTERMOUNTAIN WEST AND ROCKIES AS THE  
UPPER TROUGH DRIFTS EASTWARD AND BROADENS. MEANWHILE AN UPPER LOW  
TRACKING FROM THE SOUTHERN PLAINS THROUGH THE SOUTHEAST DURING  
SUNDAY-MONDAY WILL SUPPORT A STRONG SURFACE SYSTEM AND A HEAVY  
RAINFALL THREAT ACROSS THE SOUTHERN TIER. ADDITIONALLY, A STRONG  
UPPER RIDGE CENTERED OVER THE UPPER MIDWEST/GREAT LAKES FROM THE  
WEEKEND INTO MONDAY SHOULD MERGE WITH ANOTHER RIDGE BUILDING IN  
ACROSS THE SOUTHWEST TO YIELD A SOUTHERN PLAINS INTO GREAT LAKES  
RIDGE BY MIDWEEK. THESE RIDGES WILL SUPPORT WELL ABOVE NORMAL  
TEMPERATURES OVER MUCH OF THE CENTRAL U.S. HOWEVER THE FLOW ALOFT  
OVER THE NORTHEAST HAS BECOME MORE UNCERTAIN IN LATEST MODEL RUNS,  
WITH A WIDE POTENTIAL SPREAD BETWEEN THE UPPER RIDGE MOVING IN  
FROM THE WEST OR REINFORCEMENT OF UPPER TROUGHING OVER OR JUST  
EAST OF THE REGION.  
 
   
..GUIDANCE/PREDICTABILITY ASSESSMENT
 
 
WHILE GUIDANCE PROVIDES HIGH CONFIDENCE IN THE OVERALL WEST COAST  
TROUGH ALONG WITH THE GENERAL EASTWARD DRIFT AND EVENTUAL  
BROADENING LATER IN THE PERIOD, GUIDANCE IS HAVING A VERY  
DIFFICULT TIME RESOLVING INDIVIDUAL UPPER FEATURES (INITIAL ENERGY  
THAT MAY CONSOLIDATE AROUND SUNDAY-MONDAY PLUS ONE OR MORE  
NORTHERN STREAM FEATURES THAT MAY DROP INTO THE UPPER TROUGH).  
THIS IS LEADING TO SIGNIFICANT SPREAD AND RUN-TO-RUN VARIABILITY  
FOR THE SURFACE SYSTEM EXPECTED TO AFFECT CALIFORNIA EARLY IN THE  
WEEK. IN GENERAL THE STRONGEST SIDE OF THE SOLUTION ENVELOPE FOR  
LOW PRESSURE HAS TRENDED WEAKER WITH THE 00Z UKMET/ECMWF TRENDING  
MORE STRUNG OUT WITH THE OVERALL AREA OF LOW PRESSURE. THERE HAD  
BEEN A SIGNAL IN SOME GUIDANCE FOR THE PARENT LOW TO LINGER ALONG  
THE WEST COAST FOR A WHILE, POSSIBLY EVEN DRIFTING SOUTHWARD,  
VERSUS CONTINUED NORTHEAST PROGRESSION. RECENT ECMWF-INITIALIZED  
MACHINE LEARNING MODELS HAVE BEEN FAIRLY CONSISTENT IN BEING ON  
THE FASTER SIDE OF THE DYNAMICAL MODEL SPREAD AND THE 00Z  
GFS/ECMWF TRENDS LEAN IN THAT DIRECTION FOR NORTHWARD PROGRESSION  
(BUT PERHAPS A LITTLE EAST OF THE ML MODELS). SHORTWAVE DETAIL  
ISSUES PLAGUE THE REST OF THE FORECAST OVER THE WEST AS WELL, BUT  
THERE IS BETTER THAN AVERAGE MODEL/ENSEMBLE SUPPORT FOR LOW  
PRESSURE TO DEVELOP OVER THE PLAINS BY MID-LATE WEEK. THE 12Z/18Z  
GFS AND 12Z ECMWF PROVIDED THE BEST COMPARISON TO ENSEMBLES IN  
GENERAL, WITH THE UKMET FAST/CMC SLOW.  
 
THE GUIDANCE AVERAGE LOOKS GOOD FOR THE SYSTEM TRACKING ACROSS THE  
SOUTHEAST, WITH THE UKMET CONSISTENTLY ON THE SOUTHERN SIDE OF THE  
SPREAD. OVER THE PAST DAY A NEW COMPLICATION HAS DEVELOPED  
REGARDING THE ULTIMATE EVOLUTION/TRACK OF THIS SYSTEM OVER THE  
WESTERN ATLANTIC, AS THE GFS/CMC NOW ARE MUCH MORE AGGRESSIVE TO  
DIG TROUGH ENERGY SOUTH THROUGH NEW ENGLAND AND BEYOND BY TUESDAY  
ONWARD. THOSE SOLUTIONS RESULT IN A FARTHER NORTH TRACK AND  
GREATER WIND IMPACTS (IF NOT EVEN SOME PRECIPITATION) ALONG THE  
NORTHERN EAST COAST. TELECONNECTIONS RELATIVE TO POSITIVE HEIGHT  
ANOMALIES FORECAST OVER SOUTHERN CANADA, AS WELL AS THE 12Z  
ECMWF-INITIALIZED ML MODELS, DO NOT FAVOR UPPER TROUGHING AS CLOSE  
TO THE EAST COAST AS WHAT THE GFS/GEFS SUGGEST--BUT ALSO UPPER  
RIDGING PERHAPS NOT REACHING QUITE AS CLOSE TO NEW ENGLAND AS IN  
THE ECMWF/ECMWF MEAN. THUS A COMPROMISE LOOKS REASONABLE AT THIS  
TIME.  
 
AFOREMENTIONED GUIDANCE COMPARISONS LED TO UPDATING THE FORECAST  
WITH A BLEND OF THE 12Z/18Z GFS AND 12Z ECMWF EARLY IN THE PERIOD  
AND THEN TRANSITIONING TO INCLUDE 50-60 PERCENT TOTAL WEIGHT OF  
THE 18Z GEFS/12Z ECENS MEANS AS DETAIL UNCERTAINTIES STEADILY  
INCREASE.  
 
   
..WEATHER/HAZARDS HIGHLIGHTS
 
 
SOME OF THE SPECIFICS CONTINUE TO BE UNCERTAIN BUT MOST GUIDANCE  
STILL PROVIDES STRONG SUPPORT FOR THE IDEA OF A MULTI-DAY  
ATMOSPHERIC RIVER EVENT AFFECTING CALIFORNIA FROM AROUND SUNDAY  
INTO THE NEXT WORKWEEK. A POTENTIALLY STRONG SYSTEM THAT MAY  
PRODUCE GUSTY WINDS SHOULD TRACK TO A POSITION JUST OFFSHORE  
NORTHERN CALIFORNIA BY EARLY MONDAY, BRINGING THE LEADING SURGE OF  
MOISTURE. SLOW MOVEMENT OF THE SUPPORTING UPPER TROUGH MAY PRODUCE  
A CONTINUED SOUTHWESTERLY FLOW OF MOISTURE INTO THE REGION THROUGH  
AT LEAST TUESDAY (WITH PRECIPITATION ENHANCEMENT POSSIBLY  
GENERATED BY ONE OR MORE TRAILING FRONTAL WAVES) WHILE THE LEADING  
EDGE OF THE MOISTURE BEGINS TO PUSH INTO THE SOUTHWEST/GREAT  
BASIN. HEAVY SNOW FAVORING SOUTHWARD-FACING TERRAIN SHOULD ALSO  
SPREAD INTO THE ROCKIES DURING THE EARLY-MID WEEK TIME FRAME.  
FOLLOWING THE PERSISTENT GUIDANCE MAJORITY THAT BRINGS MOISTURE  
INTO CALIFORNIA EARLIER/EASTWARD VERSUS CMC RUNS, THE DAYS 4-5  
EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OUTLOOKS INDICATE A SLIGHT RISK FROM ALONG/NEAR  
THE TRANSVERSE RANGES NORTHWARD ALONG COASTAL CALIFORNIA, WITH THE  
NORTHERN EXTENT SLIGHTLY LESS ON DAY 5/MONDAY AS THE BEST MOISTURE  
AXIS DRIFTS A LITTLE EASTWARD. THE MARGINAL RISK EXPANDS FARTHER  
INLAND, BUT OF COURSE NOT TO HIGHER ELEVATION AREAS OF THE SIERRA  
NEVADA WHERE HEAVY SNOW IS LIKELY. PRECIPITATION SHOULD PERSIST  
ESPECIALLY FOR SOUTHERN PORTIONS OF CALIFORNIA THROUGH AT LEAST  
MIDWEEK BUT WITH GRADUALLY DECREASING TOTALS. THIS EVENT STILL  
APPEARS LIKELY TO PRODUCE GREATER LOW ELEVATION RAIN/MOUNTAIN SNOW  
TOTALS THAN THE PRECEDING EVENT DUE TO A LONGER DURATION OF  
SOUTHWESTERLY FLOW ALOFT AND A MORE DIRECT CONNECTION WITH LOWER  
LATITUDE MOISTURE. CONTINUE TO MONITOR FORECASTS FOR THIS TIME  
FRAME AS SPECIFICS GRADUALLY BECOME BETTER RESOLVED. BY NEXT  
WEDNESDAY-THURSDAY, LEADING HEIGHT FALLS ALOFT AND ASSOCIATED LOW  
PRESSURE MAY DEVELOP PRECIPITATION OVER THE NORTHERN PLAINS.  
 
THE UPPER LOW TRACKING FROM THE SOUTHERN PLAINS THROUGH THE  
SOUTHEAST DURING SUNDAY-MONDAY WILL SUPPORT ASSOCIATED LOW  
PRESSURE THAT WILL BE FAIRLY DEEP FOR SUCH A SOUTHERN TRACK.  
EXPECT THIS SYSTEM TO PRODUCE SOME AREAS OF HEAVY RAINFALL ACROSS  
THE SOUTHEAST DURING THE SUNDAY-SUNDAY NIGHT PERIOD COVERED BY THE  
DAY 4 ERO. THE OUTLOOK MAINTAINS A BROAD MARGINAL RISK AREA OVER  
THE SOUTHEAST, WITH LATEST GUIDANCE SIGNALS STILL SOMEWHAT DIFFUSE  
FOR WHERE BEST RAINFALL FOCUS WILL BE, PRECLUDING INTRODUCTION OF  
ANY EMBEDDED SLIGHT RISK. ONE REGION OF POTENTIALLY GREATER  
INTEREST CONTINUES TO BE OVER PARTS OF GEORGIA/SOUTH CAROLINA  
WHICH WILL BE JUST TO THE NORTH OF ONE OR MORE FRONTS THAT COULD  
HELP TO FOCUS HEAVIER RAINFALL. GUIDANCE EXPECTATIONS FOR  
INSTABILITY OVER THIS AREA DO NOT APPEAR PARTICULARLY IMPRESSIVE  
THOUGH. SOME HEAVY RAINFALL COULD LINGER INTO MONDAY OVER OR NEAR  
THE COAST OF THE CAROLINAS. CURRENT GUIDANCE IS NOT SHOWING A  
COHERENT ENOUGH OF A SIGNAL TO RECOMMEND A MARGINAL RISK OVER THIS  
LOCALIZED AREA IN THE NEW DAY 5 ERO BUT WILL CONTINUE TO MONITOR  
FOR IMPROVED CLUSTERING IN UPCOMING MODEL RUNS. ONCE THE SURFACE  
SYSTEM MOVES OFFSHORE, EXPECT A PERIOD OF STRONG WINDS  
ALONG/OFFSHORE THE SOUTHEAST COAST AND POSSIBLY FARTHER NORTH AS  
WELL.  
 
THE UPPER RIDGE INITIALLY OVER AND NEAR THE UPPER MIDWEST AND THEN  
BECOMING ALIGNED FROM THE SOUTHERN PLAINS THROUGH GREAT LAKES WILL  
SUPPORT A BROAD AREA OF UNSEASONABLY WARM TEMPERATURES OVER THE  
CENTRAL U.S. THROUGH THE PERIOD. CONTINUE TO EXPECT THE GREATEST  
ANOMALIES TO BE OVER/NEAR THE UPPER MIDWEST WHERE MORNING LOWS MAY  
BE AS WARM AS 25-35F ABOVE NORMAL AND EXCEED DAILY RECORDS FOR  
MULTIPLE DAYS, WHILE DAYTIME HIGHS SHOULD BE A LITTLE LESS  
EXTREME, UP TO 15-25F OR SO ABOVE NORMAL. IN CONTRAST, THE  
SOUTHWEST U.S./CALIFORNIA SHOULD SEE COOL DAYTIME HIGHS THROUGH  
THE PERIOD WITH A FEW LOCATIONS UP TO 10-15F BELOW NORMAL ON ONE  
OR MORE DAYS. CLOUDS/PRECIPITATION OVER THE WEST SHOULD KEEP  
MORNING LOWS NEAR TO ABOVE NORMAL. FLORIDA SHOULD SEE A COUPLE  
COOL DAYS WITH HIGHS 5-10F BELOW NORMAL BY TUESDAY-WEDNESDAY AFTER  
PASSAGE OF THE SOUTHEAST SYSTEM. TEMPERATURES OVER THE NORTHEAST  
FROM TUESDAY ONWARD HAVE GREATER UNCERTAINTY THAN MOST OTHER  
AREAS. THE MOST LIKELY SCENARIO WOULD YIELD NEAR TO ABOVE NORMAL  
TEMPERATURES AS UPPER RIDGING APPROACHES, BUT THERE IS LESSER  
POTENTIAL FOR A NEARBY UPPER TROUGH/LOW TO KEEP TEMPERATURES  
COLDER.  
 
RAUSCH/TATE  
 
ADDITIONAL 3-7 DAY HAZARD INFORMATION CAN BE FOUND ON THE WPC  
MEDIUM RANGE HAZARDS OUTLOOK CHART AT:  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/THREATS/THREATS.PHP  
 
WPC MEDIUM RANGE 500MB HEIGHTS, SURFACE SYSTEMS, WEATHER GRIDS,  
QUANTITATIVE PRECIPITATION FORECAST, EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OUTLOOK,  
WINTER WEATHER OUTLOOK PROBABILITIES, HEAT INDICES AND KEY  
MESSAGES ARE AT:  
 
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST500_WBG.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST_WBG_CONUS.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/5KM_GRIDS/5KM_GRIDSBODY.HTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/QPF/DAY4-7.SHTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/#PAGE=ERO  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/WWD/PWPF_D47/PWPF_MEDR.PHP?DAY=4  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/HEAT_INDEX.SHTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/#PAGE=OVW  
 

 
 

 
 
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