794  
FXUS10 KWNH 110640  
PMDHMD  
 
MODEL DIAGNOSTIC DISCUSSION  
NWS HYDROMETEOROLOGICAL PREDICTION CENTER CAMP SPRINGS MD  
139 AM EST WED NOV 11 2009  
 
VALID NOV 11/0000 UTC THRU NOV 14/1200 UTC  
 
 
...SEE NOUS42 KWNO ADMNFD FOR THE STATUS OF THE UPPER AIR  
INGEST...  
 
FINAL 00Z MODEL EVALUATION INCLUDING THE ECMWF  
 
MODEL ANALYSIS ERRORS DO NOT APPEAR TO BE LARGE ENOUGH TO HAVE A  
SIGNIFICANT IMPACT ON THE FORECAST.  
 
   
..SHRTWV ENERGY ENTERING THE NORTHWEST ON FRI
 
 
PREFERENCE: GFS/ECMWF BLEND  
 
THRU F60 EARLY FRI THE GFS IS SLIGHTLY FLATTER/FASTER THAN THE NAM  
ALOFT BUT DIFFS AT THE SFC ARE MINIMAL. AS THE ERN PAC ENERGY  
FLOWS INLAND DURING FRI-FRI NIGHT THE GFS CONTINUES TO BE WEAKER  
AND A TAD FASTER THAN THE NAM OVER THE NRN HALF/TWO THIRDS OF THE  
WEST... BUT THE GFS IS STRONGER THAN THE NAM WITH SRN ENERGY  
REACHING THE SWRN CONUS/NRN BAJA CALIF AND VICINITY BY F84 EARLY  
SAT. SUPPORT FROM OTHER GUIDANCE FOR THE NAM AMPLITUDE WITH THE  
NRN STREAM ENERGY IS MODEST SO FAR BUT ECMWF RUNS ARE NOT TOO FAR  
FROM THE NAM AMPLITUDE. THE 00Z GEFS MEAN IS SLIGHTLY  
WEAKER/BROADER THAN THE GFS. OTHER SOLNS INCLUDING THE 21Z SREF  
MEAN/12Z ECMWF ENSEMBLE MEAN AND 12Z-00Z UKMET/CMC ARE FLATTER AND  
MORE PROGRESSIVE TO VARYING DEGREES. THE 00Z NAM REPRESENTS A  
MORE AMPLIFIED ADJUSTMENT FROM PAST RUNS... WHILE GFS RUNS HAVE  
BEEN INCONSISTENT. THE 00Z GFS LIES BETWEEN THE FLATTER/FASTER  
12Z RUN AND SLOWER/MORE AMPLIFIED 00Z/11 RUN. THE VIGOROUS SYSTEM  
THAT SOME GUIDANCE SHOWS TRACKING ALONG THE NRN PAC/ALEUTIANS INTO  
THE NERN PAC APPEARS TO OFFER SOME SUPPORT FOR DOWNSTREAM  
AMPLIFICATION... SO A SOLN IN THE SLOWER HALF OF THE SPREAD SEEMS  
REASONABLE. ADJUSTMENT OF THE ECMWF FROM A NAM/GFS COMPROMISE TO  
BEING NEAR THE SLOW EDGE OF GUIDANCE REINFORCES THIS IDEA. WILL  
RECOMMEND A GFS/ECMWF BLEND THAT IS A LITTLE WEAKER WITH THE CORE  
OF THE SHRTWV THAN THE NAM AND IS NEAR THE MIDDLE OF THE SPREAD OF  
GFS RUNS FROM THE PAST DAY. FARTHER SWD... THIS BLEND TONES DOWN  
THE STRENGTH OF GFS ENERGY REACHING THE SWRN CONUS/NRN BAJA CALIF  
BY THE END OF THE PERIOD.  
 
   
..TROF PROGRESSING THRU THE WEST WED ONWARD
 
 
PREFERENCE: ECMWF  
 
THE NAM IS DEEPER THAN THE GFS AND MOST OTHER GUIDANCE WITH BOTH  
THE NRN AND SRN PORTIONS OF THE OVERALL TROF PROGRESSING FROM THE  
WEST INTO THE PLAINS. AT SOME FCST HRS THE NAM IS ALSO NEAR THE  
SLOW EDGE OF THE GUIDANCE ENVELOPE WITH PORTIONS OF THE SFC  
REFLECTION OVER THE PLAINS. THE UKMET CONVERGES TO THE NAM SOLN  
WITH THE SFC WAVE REACHING THE UPR MS VALLEY BY FRI NIGHT THOUGH.  
MEANWHILE BY EARLY SAT THE GFS IS ONE OF THE WEAKEST SOLNS AT THE  
SFC OVER THE UPR MS VALLEY/GRTLKS... AND IS EVEN WEAKER THAN THE  
18Z-00Z GEFS MEANS. 18Z/12Z GFS RUNS WERE SOMEWHAT STRONGER AND  
CLOSER TO THE AVERAGE OF CURRENT GUIDANCE. THE CANADIAN GLBL IS  
AN EXTREME PROGRESSIVE SOLN AND IS DISCOUNTED. THE 00Z ECMWF HAS  
TRENDED A LITTLE WEAKER TO A COMPROMISE SOLN NEAR THE 00Z GEFS  
MEAN BY THE END OF THE FCST... WHICH LEAVES THE ECMWF AS THE BEST  
INTERMEDIATE SOLN THRU THE FCST PERIOD.  
 
   
..REMNANTS OF IDA
 
   
..SYSTEM EVOLVING NEAR THE EAST COAST
 
 
PREFERENCE: GFS/UKMET/ECMWF COMPROMISE  
 
GIVEN FAIRLY MODEST SCATTER A COMPROMISE AMONG LATEST GUIDANCE  
SHOULD PROVIDE A REASONABLE FCST FOR THE REMNANTS OF IDA EARLY IN  
THE PERIOD. WITH THE SYSTEM EVOLVING NEAR THE EAST COAST... THE  
NAM BECOMES DEEPER THAN THE GFS AND MOST OTHER GUIDANCE WITH THE  
MID LVL LOW BY F48 LATE THU AND THIS DIFFERENCE PERSISTS FOR THE  
REST OF THE PERIOD. ALSO THE NAM BECOMES SLOWER WITH THE SYSTEM  
VERSUS THE GFS BY FRI-FRI NIGHT. DIFFS ALOFT RESULT IN A NAM SFC  
LOW THAT EXTENDS SOMEWHAT FARTHER NWD THAN MOST OTHER SOLNS  
ESPECIALLY AROUND F60 EARLY FRI. ON THE OTHER HAND REMAINING  
SOLNS GENERALLY KEEP THE MID LVL SYSTEM A LITTLE SWD OF THE GFS BY  
F84 EARLY SAT. PREFER A GFS/UKMET/ECMWF COMPROMISE TO INCORPORATE  
THE CONSENSUS NON-NAM ASPECTS OF LATEST GUIDANCE AND ACCOUNT FOR  
REMAINING DETAIL DIFFS THAT ARE TYPICALLY DIFFICULT TO RESOLVE 2-3  
DAYS OUT IN TIME.  
 
...MODEL TREND GRAPHICS AT  
WWW.HPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/HTML/MODEL2.SHTML...  
...500 MB FORECASTS AT  
WWW.HPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/H5PREF/H5PREF.SHTML...  
 
RAUSCH  

 
 
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