612  
FXUS10 KWNH 250419  
PMDHMD  
MODEL DIAGNOSTIC DISCUSSION  
NWS WEATHER PREDICTION CENTER COLLEGE PARK MD  
1219 AM EDT SUN AUG 25 2019  
 
VALID AUG 25/0000 UTC THRU AUG 28/1200 UTC  
 
...SEE NOUS42 KWNO (ADMNFD) FOR THE STATUS OF THE UPPER AIR  
INGEST...  
 
00Z MODEL EVALUATION INCLUDING PREFERENCES AND FORECAST CONFIDENCE  
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...STRONG CLOSED LOW TRACKING ACROSS NORTHERN TIER/SOUTHERN  
CANADA...  
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PREFERENCE: 00Z GFS/NAM AND 12Z ECMWF (ALONG WITH ECENS/GEFS MEANS)  
CONFIDENCE: ABOVE AVERAGE BECOMING SLIGHTLY ABOVE AVERAGE BY DAY 3  
 
THE TIGHTLY PACKET DETERMINISTIC GUIDANCE THAT HAD BEEN CONSISTENT  
FOR THE PAST FEW DAYS WITH THE LARGE/HIGH-AMPLITUDE NORTHERN  
STREAM TROF DIGGING ACROSS THE PLAINS INTO LOWER MS VALLEY HAS  
BECOME A BIT LESS AGREEABLE, MORE TYPICAL OF THE SPREAD GIVEN THE  
PATTERN, ESPECIALLY AT INTERSECTIONS WITH OTHER STREAMS (LIKE OUT  
OF THE WESTERN GULF), WHERE PHASING/TIMING IS TRICKY. THE  
DISAGREEMENT IN THE NORTHERN MOST PORTION OF THE TROF, WITH THE  
CLOSED LOW, IN SOUTHERN CANADA AND THE NORTHERN TIER, CONTINUES TO  
BE MOSTLY A DISPLACEMENT SOUTH OF THE UKMET. THE 18Z GFS JOINED  
THE UKMET, BUT THE 00Z GFS SHIFTED BACK NORTH UNTIL THE LOW  
BECOMES QUITE MATURE INTO LATE TUES/WED. THE ECMWF/ECENS ARE WELL  
NORTH OF THE GFS BUT STILL SHOW BEST CONSISTENCY AND AGREEMENT,  
THOUGH THE 18Z GEFS SHOWED SOME MORE SIMILARITIES TO SUGGEST THE  
GFS/ECMWF AND THEIR ENSEMBLES, AS WELL AS INCLUSION OF THE 00Z NAM  
IS PREFERRED FOR THIS PORTION OF THE SYSTEM.  
 
...SHORTWAVE CROSSING KS, LIFTING THROUGH GREAT LAKES AND PRESSING  
COLD FRONT INTO UPPER OHIO VALLEY...  
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PREFERENCE: NON-CMC BLEND  
CONFIDENCE: SLIGHTLY ABOVE AVERAGE  
 
FURTHER SOUTH, THROUGH THE CENTRAL PLAINS, AS THE MCV/SHORTWAVE  
CURRENTLY IN KS STARTS TO SHEAR AND LIFT BACK THROUGH IL INTO THE  
GREAT LAKES LATE MONDAY INTO TUESDAY; THE 12Z CMC SHOWS SOME  
NEGATIVE OVER AMPLIFICATION BIAS AS THE SYSTEM DEEPENS THROUGH THE  
GREAT LAKES AND EVEN DOMINATES THE CLOSED LOW FURTHER WEST,  
SHIFTING THE WHOLE CYCLONE EAST, WELL DEPARTED FROM THE ENSEMBLE  
SUITE/REMAINING GUIDANCE. THE 00Z NAM IS A BIT STRONGER AND  
DELAYS THE FRONTAL ZONE PUSH EASTWARD RELATIVE TO THE OTHER  
GUIDANCE BUT NOT SIGNIFICANTLY AND BLENDED WITH THE TYPICAL FAST  
BIAS OF THE GFS SUGGESTS, A NON-CMC BLEND IS PREFERABLE HERE.  
 
...WESTERN GULF TROPICAL WAVE/PHASING WITH BASE OF NORTHERN STREAM  
TROF...  
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PREFERENCE: NON-ECMWF BLEND WEIGHTED HEAVY TO 00Z GFS  
CONFIDENCE: AVERAGE  
 
THE BASE OF THE TROF, SHOWS THE GREATEST SPREAD IN ITS INTERACTION  
WITH THE TROPICAL WAVE LIFTING THROUGH THE WESTERN GULF INTO LA  
LATER TODAY. THE 12Z ECMWF, SHOWS VERY STRONG CONVECTIVE  
DEVELOPMENT OF THE WAVE EVEN WITH A SURFACE INFLECTION THAT LIFTS  
NORTH INTO TN/CUMBERLAND PLATEAU, WHICH IS TOO INTENSE AND DEPICTS  
A VERY STRONG QPF RESPONSE THAT IS OVERDONE AS WELL. THE 00Z NAM  
ALONG WITH THE 12Z UKMET AND CMC SUPPORT GREATER STRENGTH IN THE  
SHEARED TROF ALONG THE GULF COAST AS THE TWO STREAMS MELD BY  
TUESDAY. THE 00Z GFS ALSO TRENDED THIS DIRECTION BUT ARE WEAKER  
THAN THE NAM/UKMET. CONTINUITY AND TRENDS WOULD FAVOR THE GFS  
SLIGHTLY IN A NON-ECMWF BLEND FOR THIS TROPICAL WAVE.  
 
...TROPICAL/SUBTROPICAL WAVE OFF FLORIDA, LIFTING ALONG GULF  
STREAM...  
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PREFERENCE: 00Z GFS AND UKMET/CMC BLEND  
CONFIDENCE: AVERAGE  
 
ALONG FL EAST COAST THROUGH THE GULF STREAM, THE TROPICAL INVEST  
AREA CONTINUES TO SHOW SOLID CONTINUITY OF A DEEPENING SURFACE  
WAVE, HOWEVER, THE DEPTH OF THE WAVE CONTINUES TO TREND SLIGHTLY  
WEAKER AND SLOWER LIFTING EAST-NORTHEAST. THE 00Z GFS MATCHES  
PLACEMENT AND TIMING WITH PRIOR RUN, ALONG WITH THE WEAKER  
UKMET/CMC, BUT THE 12Z ECMWF IS CLEARLY STILL FASTEST AND  
EVENTUALLY DEEPER BY 12Z WED TOO. THE 00Z NAM ALSO CONTINUES TO  
BE VERY SLOW...SO WOULD PREFER A 00Z GFS/UKMET/CMC BLEND FOR THIS  
WAVE AT AVERAGE CONFIDENCE.  
 
MODEL TRENDS AT WWW.WPC.NOAA.GOV/HTML/MODEL2.HTML  
500 MB FORECASTS AT WWW.WPC.NOAA.GOV/H5PREF/H5PREF.SHTML  
 
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