979  
FXUS10 KWNH 151900  
PMDHMD  
 
MODEL DIAGNOSTIC DISCUSSION  
NWS WEATHER PREDICTION CENTER COLLEGE PARK MD  
159 PM EST FRI NOV 15 2019  
 
VALID NOV 15/1200 UTC THRU NOV 19/0000 UTC  
 
A..SEE NOUS42 KWNO (ADMNFD) FOR THE STATUS OF THE UPPER AIR  
INGEST...  
 
12Z MODEL EVALUATION WITH PREFERENCES AND FORECAST CONFIDENCE  
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..UPPER LOW OVER THE SOUTHEAST
 
   
..EAST COAST COASTAL LOW EVOLUTION
 
 
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PREFERENCE: 12Z HREF (MINUS NMMB) AND 00Z CMC/ECMWF BLEND < 36 HRS  
12Z ECMWF/GEFS MEAN AND 00Z ECENS MEAN BLEND >36 HRS  
CONFIDENCE: AVERAGE...BECOMING BELOW AVERAGE AFTER 36 HRS  
 
AN UPPER LOW DEEPENING OVER THE SOUTHEAST WILL MOVE EAST AND  
FOSTER MULTIPLE AREAS OF CYCLOGENESIS OFF THE SOUTHEAST COASTLINE  
TONIGHT THROUGH EARLY SATURDAY. ALL OF THE MODELS STRONGLY SUPPORT  
LOW PRESSURE BECOMING TUCKED IN RELATIVELY CLOSE SOUTHEAST NC  
THROUGH THIS PERIOD, BUT THEREAFTER, THE 12Z NAM BECOMES AN  
OUTLIER IN SUPPORTING LOW PRESSURE REMAINING FOCUSED IN CLOSER TO  
SOUTHEAST NC. THE GLOBAL MODELS AND THE HIRES MODEL SUITE SUGGEST  
THE INITIAL LOW CENTER DAMPENING OUT AND EVEN CYCLONICALLY LOOPING  
AROUND A NEW AREA OF LOW PRESSURE DEVELOPING TO THE SOUTH ALONG  
THE ATTENDANT FRONT OFF THE SOUTHEAST COASTLINE. OF THE GLOBAL  
MODELS, THE 12Z UKMET FOCUSES ITS LOW PRESSURE EVOLUTION A BIT  
FARTHER TO THE SOUTHWEST AND AWAY FROM THE MODEL CONSENSUS WHICH  
EXTENDS OUT THROUGH 36 HOURS. MEANWHILE, THE 12Z GFS COLLECTIVELY  
WITH ITS LOW CENTERS ENDS UP A BIT FARTHER EAST OF THIS CONSENSUS.  
THE BETTER MODEL CLUSTERING THROUGH 36 HOURS IS WITH THE 00Z  
CMC/ECMWF ALONG WITH THE 12Z ARW/ARW2 AND 12Z NAM-CONEST. THE 12Z  
NMMB IS A NORTHERLY OUTLIER WITHIN THE HIRES MODEL SUITE.  
 
AFTER 36 HOURS, AS LOW PRESSURE CONSOLIDATES OFF THE SOUTHERN  
MID-ATLANTIC COASTLINE, THE 12Z GFS TAKES THE LOW CENTER NORTHWARD  
AND TO THE EAST OF ALL OF THE AVAILABLE DETERMINISTIC GUIDANCE.  
THE 12Z NAM, 12Z CMC AND 12Z UKMET END UP MUCH FARTHER WEST WITH A  
MORE SIGNIFICANT IMPACT TO THE NORTHEAST AS THE LOW CENTER GETS  
PULLED IN TOWARD THE COAST OR JUST OFFSHORE OF NEW ENGLAND. THIS  
CLUSTER OF SOLUTIONS THAT TRACKS FARTHER WEST IS HIGHLY TIED INTO  
THERE BEING MORE INTERACTION WITH THE UPSTREAM SHORTWAVE TROUGHING  
THAT AMPLIFIES INTO THE OH/TN VALLEYS AND BECOMES NEGATIVELY  
TILTED ACROSS THE CENTRAL/SOUTHERN APPALACHIANS LATER SUNDAY AND  
INTO MONDAY. THIS RESULTS IN A BACKING OF THE LARGE SCALE FLOW  
ACROSS THE NORTHEAST WHICH FORCES THE LOW TRACK FARTHER WEST. THE  
12Z ECMWF ACTUALLY TRENDED A LITTLE FARTHER EAST WITH THIS LATEST  
CYCLE AND IS ONLY A LITTLE WEST OF THE GFS SOLUTION. HOWEVER, THE  
12Z GEFS MEAN AND 00Z ECENS MEAN ARE VERY CLOSE TO THE  
DETERMINISTIC ECMWF AT THIS POINT. HAVING SAID THAT, THE 12Z CMCE  
MEAN IS STRONGLY SUPPORTIVE OF A UKMET/CMC/NAM CONSENSUS. SO,  
THERE REMAINS A DIVIDED CAMP WITH RESPECT TO THE SURFACE LOW  
EVOLUTION OFF THE EAST COAST. THE PREFERENCE BEYOND 36 HOURS WILL  
BE TO LEAN TOWARD A BLEND OF THE 12Z ECMWF/GEFS MEAN AND 00Z ECENS  
MEAN AT THIS POINT, WITH BELOW AVERAGE CONFIDENCE.  
 
   
..AMPLIFYING TROUGH ACROSS THE CENTRAL/EASTERN U.S
 
 
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PREFERENCE: GENERAL MODEL BLEND < 48 HRS  
12Z ECMWF/GEFS MEAN AND 00Z ECENS MEAN BLEND > 48 HRS  
CONFIDENCE: AVERAGE...BECOMING BELOW AVERAGE AFTER 48 HRS  
 
A SHORTWAVE WILL DROP SOUTHEAST DOWN ACROSS THE INTERMOUNTAIN  
REGION AND BEGIN TO AMPLIFY THROUGH SATURDAY. THIS ENERGY WILL  
TRAVERSE THE PLAINS/MIDWEST THROUGH EARLY SUNDAY AND THEN BECOME  
NEGATIVELY TILTED BY SUNDAY NIGHT AS IT CROSSES THE OH/TN VALLEYS.  
SIGNIFICANT MODEL SPREAD EXISTS BY MONDAY AS THE ENERGY CROSSES  
THE CENTRAL/SOUTHERN APPALACHIANS AND MID-ATLANTIC REGION, AS THE  
12Z CMC/ECMWF SOLUTIONS ARE SLOWER THAN THE 12Z NAM/GFS/UKMET  
SOLUTIONS. THERE IS SOME SUPPORT FOR THE SLOWER CONSENSUS FROM THE  
00Z ECENS MEAN, 12Z GEFS MEAN, AND ESPECIALLY THE LATEST 12Z CMCE  
MEAN. BASED ON THE LATEST ENSEMBLE GUIDANCE, AND DETERMINISTIC  
TRENDS, A BLEND OF THE 12Z ECMWF/GEFS MEAN AND 00Z ECENS MEAN WILL  
BE PREFERRED AFTER 48 HOURS, WITH A GENERAL MODEL BLEND SUFFICING  
PRIOR TO THIS.  
 
   
..CLOSED LOW DEVELOPMENT OFFSHORE SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA ON FRI
 
 
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PREFERENCE: NON-CMC BLEND  
CONFIDENCE: AVERAGE  
 
THE MODELS MAINTAIN THE IDEA OF A CLOSED LOW DEVELOPING AND  
EVOLVING OFFSHORE SOUTHERN CA WITH THE LOW DROPPING SOUTH TO THE  
WEST OF THE BAJA PENINSULA THROUGH THE WEEKEND. THIS SYSTEM WILL  
HAVE AN INTERACTION WITH T.S. RAYMOND OVER THE EASTERN TROPICAL  
PACIFIC AS ITS ENERGY AND MOISTURE WILL BE PULLED NORTH TOWARD THE  
BAJA PENINSULA THROUGH THE PERIOD. THE 12Z CMC GRADUALLY BECOMES A  
BIT OF A WESTERLY OUTLIER WITH THE EVOLUTION OF THE SYSTEM, SO A  
NON-CMC BLEND WILL BE PREFERRED AT THIS TIME.  
 
   
..UPPER TROUGH ARRIVING ACROSS THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST ON MON
 
 
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PREFERENCE: BLEND OF THE 12Z UKMET/ECMWF  
CONFIDENCE: AVERAGE  
 
THE MODELS BRING A PROGRESSIVE SHORTWAVE TROUGH AND ASSOCIATED  
SURFACE LOW IN TOWARD THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST ON MONDAY.. THE 12Z  
NAM AND 12Z GFS ARE ON THE FASTER SIDE OF THE GUIDANCE, WITH THE  
12Z CMC/ECMWF/UKMET SOLUTIONS SLOWER. OVERALL, THE CMC IS A SLOW  
OUTLIER. THE LATEST ENSEMBLE SUITES TEND TO FAVOR A SOLUTION A  
LITTLE SLOWER THAN THE FASTER DETERMINISTIC CONSENSUS WHICH  
SUGGESTS A SOLUTION TOWARD A BLEND OF THE UKMET AND ECMWF WOULD  
SUFFICE FOR NOW.  
 
MODEL TRENDS AT WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/HTML/MODEL2.HTML  
500 MB FORECASTS AT WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/H5PREF/H5PREF.SHTML  
 
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