142  
FXUS10 KWNH 301732  
PMDHMD  
 
MODEL DIAGNOSTIC DISCUSSION  
NWS WEATHER PREDICTION CENTER COLLEGE PARK MD  
1232 PM EST SAT NOV 30 2019  
 
VALID NOV 30/1200 UTC THRU DEC 04/0000 UTC  
 
...SEE NOUS42 KWNO (ADMNFD) FOR THE STATUS OF THE UPPER AIR  
INGEST...  
 
12Z NAM/GFS EVALUATION WITH PRELIMINARY PREFERENCES AND CONFIDENCE  
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...DEEP CLOSED LOW TRACKING EAST FROM THE PLAINS TO THE EAST  
COAST...   
..SECONDARY SURFACE LOW DEVELOPMENT SOUTH OF LONG ISLAND
 
 
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PREFERENCE: NEAR THE 00Z ECMWF MEAN OR A 3-WAY BLEND OF THE 12Z  
NAM/12Z GFS/00Z ECMWF  
CONFIDENCE: SLIGHTLY ABOVE AVERAGE  
 
MODEL AGREEMENT IS FAIR WITH A LARGE CLOSED LOW AS IT TRACKS EAST  
THROUGH MONDAY/TUESDAY, BUT MINOR DIFFERENCES IN A RELATED SURFACE  
LOW TRACK TRANSLATE INTO SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCES AT THE SURFACE.  
WHILE THE 12Z GFS/NAM AND 00Z ECMWF ARE IN GOOD AGREEMENT  
INITIALLY WITH THE SECONDARY SURFACE LOW POSITION SOUTH OF LONG  
ISLAND, THE 12Z GFS IS WARMER IN THE LOWER LEVELS ACROSS INLAND  
LOCATIONS MONDAY MORNING/EVENING. THE 00Z UKMET/CMC DIFFER IN  
POSITION FROM THE OTHERWISE GOOD MODEL AGREEMENT.  
 
AS TUESDAY APPROACHES, THE MODEL DIFFERENCES GROW CONCERNING THE  
SURFACE LOW WITH THE 00Z ECMWF EAST OF ITS ENSEMBLE MEAN, WITH THE  
12Z NAM TOWARD THE WESTERN SIDE OF THE MODEL GUIDANCE. THE 12Z GFS  
ENDS UP WITH A SIGNIFICANTLY STRONGER SURFACE LOW TOWARD THE SOUTH  
SIDE OF THE MODEL SPREAD, WHILE THE 00Z UKMET/CMC ARE FASTER TO  
EXIT THE LOW-MID LEVEL LOW AWAY FROM NEW ENGLAND BUT THE 00Z ECMWF  
MEAN SHOWS A DECENT BLEND OF THE BETTER CLUSTERED GUIDANCE BETWEEN  
THE 12Z NAM, 12Z GFS AND 00Z ECMWF.  
 
   
..UPPER LOW OFF OF THE WEST COAST THROUGH TUESDAY
 
 
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PREFERENCE: BLEND OF THE 12Z NAM, 00Z ECMWF, MINOR INCORPORATION  
OF THE 12Z GFS  
CONFIDENCE: AVERAGE  
 
A PAIR OF MID-LEVEL CLOSED LOWS ALONG AND WEST OF THE WEST COAST  
ARE EXPECTED TO CONSOLIDATE INTO A SINGLE LOW ON SUNDAY OFF OF THE  
PACIFIC NORTHWEST. THIS CLOSED LOW IS THEN EXPECTED TO RETROGRADE  
WEST AND SOUTH THROUGH TUESDAY. TRENDS IN THE ENSEMBLE SPAGHETTI  
PLOTS INDICATE A BROAD RANGE OF LONGITUDES FOR THE CENTER OF THE  
LOW, BUT THE 12Z GFS IS MUCH CLOSER TO THE EASTERN EDGE OF THE  
ENSEMBLE GUIDANCE. WHILE THE 12Z GFS ENDS UP CLOSER TO THE MIDDLE  
OF THE LATEST MODEL SPREAD BY A MIDDLE GROUND ON TUESDAY AND THE  
VERIFYING POSITION MAY WIND UP BETWEEN THE EASTERN GFS AND WESTERN  
ECMWF/NAM, MORE WEIGHT TOWARD THE WESTERN ECMWF/NAM IDEA IS  
PREFERRED GIVEN THE LATEST ENSEMBLE DISTRIBUTION. TRENDS DO NOT  
FAVOR ONE WAY VERSUS THE OTHER AT THIS TIME.  
 
...SHORTWAVE APPROACHING THE NORTHERN PLAINS/UPPER MIDWEST  
MONDAY/TUESDAY...  
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PREFERENCE: GENERAL MODEL BLEND  
CONFIDENCE: ABOVE AVERAGE  
 
DESPITE SOME MINOR TIMING/AMPLITUDE DIFFERENCES, THE MODELS ARE IN  
DECENT AGREEMENT WITH A NORTHERN STREAM SHORTWAVE FORECAST TO  
TRACK ACROSS THE NORTHERN PLAINS AND UPPER MIDWEST.  
 
MODEL TRENDS AT WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/HTML/MODEL2.HTML  
500 MB FORECASTS AT WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/H5PREF/H5PREF.SHTML  
 
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