433  
FXUS10 KWNH 081852  
PMDHMD  
 
MODEL DIAGNOSTIC DISCUSSION  
NWS WEATHER PREDICTION CENTER COLLEGE PARK MD  
151 PM EST SAT FEB 08 2020  
 
VALID FEB 08/1200 UTC THRU FEB 12/0000 UTC  
 
...SEE NOUS42 KWNO (ADMNFD) FOR THE STATUS OF THE UPPER AIR  
INGEST...  
 
12Z MODEL EVALUATION WITH FINAL PREFERENCES AND CONFIDENCE  
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...WEAK SHORTWAVE CROSSING THE OH VALLEY/APPALACHIANS  
TODAY/TONIGHT...  
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PREFERENCE: GENERAL MODEL BLEND  
CONFIDENCE: ABOVE AVERAGE  
 
THE MODELS SHOW SIMILARLY WITH THIS SYSTEM.  
 
   
..DEEP TROUGH/CYCLONE CROSSING THE NORTHWEST TODAY
 
 
...DOWNSTREAM TROUGHING OVER THE NORTHERN PLAINS BY SUNDAY WITH  
RELATED SURFACE LOW TRACKING INTO THE UPPER MIDWEST WITH TRAILING  
COLD FRONT ACROSS THE MISSISSIPPI VALLEY...  
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PREFERENCE: NON 12Z CMC BLEND  
CONFIDENCE: AVERAGE  
 
THE 12Z GFS SHOWS UP AS STRONGEST WITH THE 850 MB REFLECTION OF  
THIS SYSTEM SUNDAY MORNING WITH THE 12Z NAM A CLOSE SECOND. THE  
GEFS SUPPORTS THE STRONGER GFS WHILE THE 12Z ECMWF/UKMET/CMC ARE  
SUPPORTED BY THE 00Z EC MEAN THROUGH MONDAY. THE 12Z NON-NCEP  
GUIDANCE TRENDED SLIGHTLY STRONGER BUT GIVEN THE NEARLY EVEN SPLIT  
AND SHORT TERM NATURE OF THE FORECAST, A BLEND OF THE TWO CAMPS IS  
RECOMMENDED. THIS EQUATES TO A 12Z NAM/GFS AND 12Z ECMWF/UKMET  
BLEND, EXCLUDING THE 12Z CMC AS ITS SURFACE LOW DEVIATES FROM THE  
REMAINING MODEL GUIDANCE LATER SUNDAY NIGHT NEAR THE LOWER GREAT  
LAKES REGION WITH A SOMEWHAT SLOWER PROGRESSION.  
 
...DIGGING MID-LEVEL TROUGH OVER THE GREAT BASIN/SOUTHWEST BY  
SUNDAY, EVOLVING INTO A STRONG CLOSED LOW NEAR SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA  
ON MONDAY...  
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PREFERENCE: 12Z NAM/ECMWF/CMC BLEND  
CONFIDENCE: SLIGHTLY ABOVE AVERAGE  
 
SIMILAR DIFFERENCES EXIST WITH THIS SYSTEM AS WHAT WAS SEEN ON  
FRIDAY WITH THE 12Z GFS FASTER THAN ALL OF THE DETERMINISTIC  
GUIDANCE AND ALMOST ALL OF THE LATEST ENSEMBLE GUIDANCE. THE 00Z  
UKMET TRENDED SLOWER HOWEVER COMPARED TO YESTERDAY, AND IS ON THE  
SLOWER SIDE OF THE DETERMINISTIC GUIDANCE. THE 12Z ECMWF/UKMET/CMC  
TRENDED A LITTLE FASTER COMPARED TO THEIR PREVIOUS 00Z CYCLES.  
ENSEMBLE SPAGHETTI HEIGHTS FROM 500 MB AT 558 DAM SUPPORT A MIDDLE  
GROUND BUT THE ENVELOPE OF SOLUTIONS HAS TRENDED QUICKER COMPARED  
TO ITS PREVIOUS 3 CYCLES VALID TUESDAY. THE 12Z NAM/ECMWF/CMC ARE  
RATHER SIMILAR TO ONE ANOTHER AND THE 3-WAY BLEND IS RECOMMENDED  
FOR THIS SYSTEM AT THIS TIME WITH THE 12Z GFS CONSIDERED VERY  
UNLIKELY TO VERIFY.  
 
   
..NORTHERN STREAM TROUGH/FRONT OVER THE MIDWEST BY TUESDAY
 
 
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PREFERENCE: 12Z ECMWF/CMC BLEND  
CONFIDENCE: SLIGHTLY ABOVE AVERAGE  
 
TIMING DIFFERENCES SHOW UP WITH THE 500 MB REFLECTION OF THIS  
SHORTWAVE EARLY ON TUESDAY WITH THE 12Z NAM AND 12Z UKMET FASTEST  
FOLLOWED BY THE 12Z ECMWF AND 12Z CMC. THE 12Z GFS IS SLOWEST WITH  
THIS SYSTEM BY TUESDAY EVENING. GIVEN SOME OF THESE MINOR  
DIFFERENCES THROUGH THE END OF THE SHORT RANGE PERIOD (00Z/12)  
COULD IMPACT THE ORIENTATION OF THE FRONTAL BOUNDARY/MOISTURE  
TOWARD THE GULF COAST STATES, A MIDDLE GROUND 12Z ECMWF/CMC BLEND  
WILL BE PREFERRED AT THIS TIME FOR THE NORTHERN STREAM TROUGH.  
 
   
..QUASI-STATIONARY FRONT OVER THE GULF COAST STATES BY TUESDAY
 
 
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PREFERENCE: 12Z CMC/ECMWF BLEND  
CONFIDENCE: AVERAGE  
 
SOME LATITUDE DIFFERENCES DEVELOP WITH THIS FRONTAL BOUNDARY DUE  
TO SOME DIFFERENCES ALOFT WITH THE POSITION OF A STRONG RIDGE OVER  
THE WESTERN CARIBBEAN AND AN UPSTREAM CLOSED LOW OVER THE  
SOUTHWEST. AS DISCUSSED ABOVE, THE 12Z GFS IS CONSIDERED TOO FAST  
WITH THE EJECTION OF THE SOUTHWESTERN CLOSED LOW AND THIS IMPACTS  
THE ORIENTATION OF THE FRONT DOWNSTREAM BY TUESDAY. THE 12Z NAM  
SHOWED SOME DIFFERENCES IN WIND CONVERGENCE OVER THE GULF COAST  
STATES ON TUESDAY BUT THE 12Z CMC/ECMWF APPEAR SIMILAR ENOUGH TO  
EACH OTHER AND ARE PREFERRED WITH SURROUNDING SYNOPTIC SCALE  
FEATURES TO WARRANT USE FOR THE NEARLY STATIONARY FRONT ACROSS THE  
GULF COAST STATES THROUGH TUESDAY.  
 
...MID-LEVEL SHORTWAVE POTENTIALLY REACHING THE BRITISH COLUMBIA  
COAST MONDAY NIGHT AND ADVANCING INTO THE NORTHWEST FOR TUESDAY...  
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PREFERENCE: 12Z GFS  
CONFIDENCE: BELOW AVERAGE  
 
LARGE UNCERTAINTY EXISTS WITH A SHORTWAVE ANALYZED SOUTH OF THE  
WESTERN ALEUTIAN ISLANDS AT 12Z THIS MORNING, AND HOW IT INTERACTS  
AND EVOLVES DOWNSTREAM TOWARD NORTH AMERICA MONDAY AND TUESDAY.  
THE 00Z ECMWF WAS FASTEST WITH THIS FEATURE. TRENDS HAVE BEEN  
INCONCLUSIVE WITH THE DETERMINISTIC GUIDANCE AND ENSEMBLE GUIDANCE  
SHOWS ONLY WEAK SUPPORT FOR A STRONGER COMPACT SHORTWAVE AS SEEN  
IN THE 12Z NAM. THE 12Z CMC WEAKENED THIS FEATURE FROM ITS  
PREVIOUS 00Z CYCLE AND THE 12Z ECMWF SLOWED DOWN A BIT WHICH  
APPEARS TO BE STEPS IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. THE 12Z GFS APPEARS TO  
BE A FAVORABLE MIDDLE GROUND REGARDING TIMING AND STRENGTH WITH  
THIS FEATURE BUT POOR RUN TO RUN CONSISTENCY AND POOR MODEL  
AGREEMENT LEADS TO BELOW AVERAGE CONFIDENCE.  
 
MODEL TRENDS AT WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/HTML/MODEL2.HTML  
500 MB FORECASTS AT WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/H5PREF/H5PREF.SHTML  
 
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